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01:09 SonosFuer Hey there, I am interested in developing for the core. I know c fairly extensively and I know java. I learned c about 5 years ago on a propriety engine. I want to start with helping document the code (Mostly to help me understand what is going on). I was hoping to get some help getting started. I read all the documentation on the wiki, have a copy of the repository loaded and compiled the game (On Linux). Right now I have
01:09 SonosFuer the code in a text editor (Sublime 3) but is there an IDE I should be using / anyone recommends?
01:10 bigfoot547 I use geany
01:11 bigfoot547 And as far as contributing, just make a pull request
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10:39 juhdanad Hi everyone!
10:40 juhdanad I was thinking about a global table `enum`, which would contain all special strings that the engine accepts.
10:41 juhdanad For example `enum.nodebox_type.leveled`, `enum.hud_type.waypoint` etc.
10:41 juhdanad So modders will know if a new enum value is available in their version.
10:42 juhdanad This would also help in the documentation.
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14:14 octacian #6118
14:14 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6118 -- Add named queuing system by octacian
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14:16 paramat ShadowNinja VanessaE see https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/issues/6101#issuecomment-314114486 how close to u16max can MAX_REGISTERED_CONTENT safely be? there is a request to raise it
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14:17 octacian What filesystem library does Minetest use?
14:18 nerzhul myfilesystemlibrarydonebyc55
14:19 octacian nerzhul: Is it documented somewhere?
14:20 nerzhul src/porting.h
14:20 octacian hmmm, NVM, I've gathered the info I need :D
14:20 octacian Any reason why there's no cpdir or rmdir API?
14:20 octacian rmdir in particular would be incredibly useful seeing as it's impossible to cleanly remove a directory in Windows currently
14:21 octacian And messy to copy a directory in the first place
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14:24 octacian Well, either way, PR upcoming later today :P
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15:07 kilbith well-known shitposter, please delete on sight: https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/issues/6114#issuecomment-314105726
15:07 kilbith and ban him from the tracker
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15:28 Noxarivis[m] kilbith: I don't agree
15:28 kilbith I don't care
15:29 kilbith also, don't ping me unless if you have something important to say
15:30 Noxarivis[m] kilbith: K
15:30 kilbith welcome in my ignore list
15:33 KaadmY Someone's salty
15:33 Noxarivis[m] To everyone, please don't delete any comments of azekillDIABLO until proof , thanks
15:33 Noxarivis[m] KaadmY: I wonder who
15:36 KaadmY HM I WUNDAR
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15:38 Noxarivis[m] kilbith is a unique name, could that be short for Marckensonn Kilbith Alcidas
15:40 Noxarivis[m] I got nice logs,
15:40 Noxarivis[m] "hello, silly question : does the current ubuntu kernel (4.4) has backporting of upstream kernel patches (as both kernels are LTS) ?"
15:40 Noxarivis[m] I think I have something to read the next day
15:41 nerzhul Noxarivis[m], it's out of the dev topic. please stop
15:44 Noxarivis[m] Yeah sorry
15:46 Noxarivis[m] nerzhul: I have something, if I sleep , progress in the game still stays the same right?
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16:22 DS-minetest the sinking speed in liquids doesn't seem to be dependent on the player's gravity
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17:29 Hijiri did particles ever get configurable blending modes?
17:29 sofar no, just glow I think
17:29 Hijiri oh
17:30 Hijiri did that PR die?
17:30 sofar I think he ended up removing the blend code, unfortunately, from the PR
17:30 Hijiri oh
17:30 Hijiri that sucks
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17:34 Hijiri I guess people couldn't agree on the blend parameters format?
17:45 kilbith afaik only paramat opposed to it
17:45 kilbith because it was "too complex"
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17:55 Hijiri #5819 was rebased by Krock (SmallJoker = Krock, right?), so I can begin daily posting again
17:55 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5819 -- Fix default item callbacks to work with nil users by raymoo
17:56 Krock Hijiri, false != true
17:56 Hijiri I might wait 9 months for #5612 to be a year old before daily posting though, otherwise it seems it won't get reviews
17:56 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5612 -- Allow overriding tool capabilities through itemstack metadata by raymoo
17:56 Krock Hijiri, don't be afraid. I prepared some PRs too for the meeting next saturday
17:57 Krock they'll be handled
17:57 Krock s/afraid/worried/
17:57 Hijiri I don't know, nerzhul told me there were too many other PRs in the "queue"
17:57 Hijiri though at one point wasn't it in the 0.4.16 milestone?
18:00 Krock there always were and there always will be too many PRs, not even starting to discuss about the issue amount
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18:26 paramat Hijiri , sfan-5 removed blend from the particle PR when he reworked it #5039 "except for blend but I don't care for that"
18:26 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5039 -- Add particle animation, glow by sfan5
18:30 kilbith lie by omission: https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/pull/4774#issuecomment-272309828
18:34 nerzhul heh :)
18:37 sofar I kinda liked the blend stuff, it's too bad it didn't get merged. I actually already had a use case for it and couldn't make it work without
18:38 sofar well, not as pretty
18:48 paramat what lie? i never said i did not oppose blend, i certainly did and everyone knows it. kilbith stop taking every opportunity to attack
18:49 paramat just pointing out that it was not only me that opposed blend, as you claimed
18:49 kilbith you misunderstand
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18:51 paramat ok, please explain how i lied then
18:52 kilbith sfan5 remove it for a reason, you did oppose it and made a fuss about the parameters, you did not tell the ins and outs of that decision
18:53 kilbith *removed it
18:53 kilbith that's why it's a lie *by omission*
18:53 sofar doesn't matter now unless someone wants to resubmit it
18:54 kilbith yes
18:54 paramat sfan still removed it "except for blend but I don't care for that"
18:54 sofar I can't find that statement
18:54 paramat #5039
18:54 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5039 -- Add particle animation, glow by sfan5
18:55 kilbith pretty sure he was avoiding an argument with you at that time
18:55 kilbith but doesn't matter now
18:55 kilbith feel free to re-add it anyway
18:56 kilbith we should remove the mapgen parameters because there are "too cyrptic and complex" as well
18:56 paramat no he was not avoiding an argument we me, he is not spineless, if he disagrees with me he will do so openly (and does so often)
18:56 kilbith we'll see how do you react to that
18:56 paramat now stop being toxic and twisting everything into a personal attack
18:56 kilbith well, you do have an energy for the controversies that few rare people have...
18:58 paramat it's called being active
18:58 sofar nothing will ever get done unless you ignore the person and focus on the technical issues
18:59 kilbith paramat: really? you insulted the original author of the particules PR that he was "arrogant" for little reasons
18:59 kilbith https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/pull/4705#issuecomment-260179315
18:59 kilbith and of course you edited your comments a lot of times
19:00 paramat i already ignore, but it doesn't help much because kilbith is constantly stirring up hate in the channel. you're a good dev please drop your obsessive hatred
19:00 paramat yes the author was arrogant, by his own admission "i'm an egoist"
19:01 kilbith he was joking, you did not get the humor
19:01 kilbith and it has nothing with the code
19:01 kilbith *nothing to do
19:02 sofar guys, go take a train and meet halfway and sit in a pub for a few hours
19:02 paramat ok, but if so he was still extremely rude and arrogant
19:02 sofar take it offline
19:02 kilbith there was no reason to comment that, only the code matters
19:02 kilbith even if the guy is a complete asshole
19:03 paramat heh meeting up is not a good idea after kilbiths physical threats
19:03 paramat nuf said
19:03 kilbith that's called being a real man
19:03 sofar both of you
19:03 sofar take a hike
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19:18 octacian #6119
19:18 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6119 -- Add `rmdir` and `cpdir` filesystem APIs by octacian
19:23 octacian Is store.lua in mainmenu really needed anymore?
19:23 octacian After all, if/when a new modstore is implemented, it'd probably be best to write mostly from scratch. Plus, you can always just restore the old one to work off of.
19:24 octacian Just noticed that not only is it there, but still loaded which will likely also have an effect (albeit minor) on performance.
19:24 octacian Anyways, thoughts? Do we really need to keep store.lua around?
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21:51 Hijiri I was confused for a moment because I thought you meant the mod storage
21:51 Hijiri I guess it should probably be removed though
21:55 sofar we generally don't keep "dead code" around much
21:56 sofar but with the lua things are harder to spot
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23:54 paramat #5981 is finally ready
23:54 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5981 -- Biomes/decorations/ores: Make relative to 'water_level' setting by paramat
23:56 paramat will merge in a few mins with #5748 #6112
23:56 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5748 -- Underwater plantlike drawtype by numberZero
23:56 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6112 -- Advanced settings: Reformat noise parameter format example by paramat

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