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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2017-06-26

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00:14 * Jordach decides to shit on this topic for walking on Jordach's territory
00:16 * Sokomine hands jordach a toilet
00:16 Jordach Sokomine, you do not use pre-made blends
00:17 Sokomine i don't use blends at all as i have no experience with them :-)
00:17 Jordach Sokomine, it supports both PBR formats, metallics and dielectric
00:18 Jordach dielectric being 90% of non metallic objects
00:18 Sokomine sounds good
00:19 Sokomine graphics got quite far in the last years
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12:09 nerzhul http://void-ii.hi-res.net/
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12:41 JordachL :thinking:
12:41 Bobr2 lol
12:43 JordachL__ was grouping things
12:44 JordachL trying to configure quassel's color set to match my KDE theme
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12:47 JordachL my laptop works, kinda
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12:47 JordachL :thinking:
12:47 JordachL Calinou: sometimes boot gets stuck on starting/stopping TLP services
12:48 JordachL think it's the non-free radeon drivers, but it seems to boot fine now
12:48 JordachL (since updating my packages)
13:00 JordachL https://youtu.be/l5rHFPNG1yQ
13:00 JordachL sfan5, Shara, rubenwardy, ^
13:01 Shara Reminds me of my two when they were younger :)
13:02 DS-minetest ooh
13:03 JordachL they're from a feral mum-cat
13:04 JordachL at a shelter (Blue Cross)
13:05 JordachL they're born on the 01/04/2017 (DD/MM)
13:07 JordachL Shara, they wouldn't let me stroke them, now they do
13:08 JordachL they even want me to stroke their bellies
13:08 Shara One of mine was using people as climbing frames straight away (she still often rides around on my shoulder), and the other was a nervous wreck
13:08 Shara But both black and white ones as well
13:08 JordachL these are both nervous
13:08 Shara Rescue cats?
13:09 JordachL yes
13:09 Shara Mine as well.
13:09 Shara My girls were both dumped as kittens, poor things.
13:10 JordachL these two boys didnt mesh with their brothers and sisters
13:24 sfan5 oh look, kitties
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13:28 twoelk my sister once rescued two cat brothers that took three years until they tolerated being touched - one became really cosey later on
13:30 Shara My smaller cat  sometimes pretends to be a scarf.
13:31 twoelk a purring scarf? sounds nice
13:35 Shara She doesn't purr much. SOmetimes makes these weird little chirp noises. I guess she thinks she's a bird.
13:35 Shara But she's small and very light, so carrying her around like that isn't a bother.
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14:08 Bobr2 wb Octacian
14:09 octacian Thanks Bobr2!
14:09 Bobr2 no problem XD
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14:59 JordachL Shara, :3
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15:43 Bobr2 are we allowed to report hackers here just so people know about him if he goes on to their server
15:45 shivajiva yea sure, we all like to know what's going on
15:46 Bobr2 person trying to destroy a server called Tros or VoidHunter01 threatens to crash servers ddos ips and is very foul mouthed just a heads up
16:09 lisac hey anyone got any decent formspec editor for Minetest?
16:09 lisac I hate working with formspecs
16:09 Bobr2 idk what that is lol
16:10 Bobr2 would atom do the job??
16:17 calcul0n lisac, there's a mod to make formspecs easier to handle, but i didn't try it
16:17 shivajiva lisac: I think everyone does it the hard way, let me know if you find one pls
16:17 calcul0n and i can't remember its name :)
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16:18 JordachL :thinking:
16:19 shivajiva https://github.com/minetest-mods/smartfs
16:20 calcul0n yes, it's this one
16:23 shivajiva NathanS describes the layout visually on one of his pages to ease you in to the idea, it explains the coordinate system mt uses
16:25 shivajiva I sometimes use WE to check my code looks correct, tweak it and then copy it out
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16:30 shivajiva https://github.com/cdqwert​z/minetestFormspecCreator might be worth a look
16:30 red-001 ...
16:30 shivajiva lol
16:30 red-001 why does smartfs sanity check minetest.is_yes?
16:31 shivajiva because it's insane :)
16:32 shivajiva I tried to use that formspec creator and gave up btw
16:32 shivajiva it's quirky or I am....you choose
16:38 lisac Am I the only one who thinks the formspecs in MT are terrible?
16:39 lisac shivajiva, I saw that one :P
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16:41 shivajiva Hi Darcidride
16:41 Darcidride Hi shivajiva and everybody
16:42 shivajiva lisac: urm no we all think they are awkward I think
16:43 shivajiva but it gets easier the more you mess with it until finally you accept it as the way it's done
16:48 shivajiva use decimals to get the best possible layout and keep the same vertical spacings, it's just about where the form content starts :)
16:50 red-001 hi ThomasMonroe
16:51 twoelk even the creator of formspecs wasn't happy but nobody created anything better
16:51 red-001 who created formspecs?
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16:52 twoelk sapier made the last version iirc
16:53 ThomasMonroe hi
16:54 twoelk there was a lot of talk about better ways but nobody made anything
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16:55 shivajiva o/
16:55 twoelk o/
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17:16 shivajiva we need a Minetest Mod IDE
17:18 Krock but ingame
17:18 Bobr2 lol
17:21 lisac shivajiva, That's actually a nice idea
17:21 lisac something like KDevelop where you can set your own editor
17:22 lisac so that people using vim or emacs can keep their superiority.
17:25 ThomasMonroe shiva, check out Netbeans platform
17:25 ThomasMonroe it might be a good starting point
17:26 * Shara hugs her editor and hides in a corner
17:26 ThomasMonroe lol
17:26 lisac ThomasMonroe, Does it support badly designed, rarely used, completely underfeatured GUI systems?
17:26 ThomasMonroe i like your editor just as much as netbeans
17:29 ThomasMonroe lisac: yes, its written in java, but can do many, many things
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17:40 lisac hey red-001 do you think clientmods could get dbus access? :P
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17:42 Jordach Shara,
17:42 Jordach https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/10470344899​7445632/328854626814132225/IMG_20170626_120655.jpg
17:43 Shara Adorable :)
17:44 Jordach gone to sleep in their cardboard longhouse
17:44 Bobr2 lol
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17:48 Bobr2 wb sofar
17:48 VanessaE hey sofar
17:48 VanessaE long time no see
17:49 Bobr2 can i make a bad pun
17:49 bigfoot547 Sure
17:49 Bobr2 thats because hes been SO FAR away XD
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17:50 * Shara spies a sofar
17:50 Shara Hello :)
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18:20 Jordach Shara, https://jordach.net/Images/B​lenderStuff/principle_1.png
18:20 Jordach https://jordach.net/Images/B​lenderStuff/principle_2.png
18:20 Jordach look at that goddamn shader chain
18:21 Jordach 12 textures providing ~9 options
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18:34 octacian rubenwardy: Would it be possible to add an export option to NBE that would copy the fixed nodebox tables?
18:34 octacian ...to the clipboard
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18:45 red-001 lol so much for the fix your connection ban
18:45 red-001 if grandolf set up sasl I guess it would work
18:52 Jordach toplel
19:28 bigfoot547 <bigfoot547> Ehm, compiling minetest is giving me a linking error
19:28 bigfoot547 <bigfoot547> I'll get the paste
19:28 bigfoot547 <bigfoot547> https://pastebin.com/6pHgqd4b
19:28 bigfoot547 <bigfoot547> There's the error
19:28 bigfoot547 (#minetest )
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19:34 bigfoot547 Someone! Please help me!
19:34 Shara Ohhh.. you have the json problem too?
19:35 bigfoot547 Yep
19:35 Shara I ran into that
19:35 bigfoot547 Do I need an apt?
19:35 Shara There's a flag to add and then it should work
19:35 bigfoot547 Yes, what is it?
19:35 Shara Hold on. On the wrong computer to check easily
19:38 Shara Ugh, can't seem to find it
19:39 Shara But you can get around it by not using the bundled json
19:39 bigfoot547 OK
19:41 Shara Sorry I can't check what excatly I used from here. Maybe someone else will know
19:43 Shara Ahh, looks like someone gave you it in the other channel :)
19:43 bigfoot547 Yep
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22:55 octacian I can't seem to compile MT properly on debian. It keeps giving json errors. I have libjsoncpp-dev installed, but still
22:55 octacian Any suggestions?
22:58 Shara octacian: use -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=TRUE
22:59 octacian Shara: Thanks!
22:59 Shara Also welcome to the "eww json errors" club :P
22:59 octacian Is "-j(nproc)" really that important?
23:00 octacian ...and it's building right from the start again -_-
23:01 Shara Don't know. I'm rubbish at this compiling thing. :D
23:02 sfan5 if you'd like it to go fast then you'll need that
23:02 sfan5 it's -j$(nproc) btw
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