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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2017-06-29

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10:56 lisac hey, I've got a nice idea: Maybe we could allow players to download a server's map, modify it, and merge the changes when they connect, if the server allows it?
10:57 lisac it would be awesome for offline playing
10:57 lisac you could download an area of your favorite server and build stuff
10:57 Calinou sounds way too chaotic due to merge conflicts...
10:57 Calinou that's just a silly idea, really
10:57 lisac :(
10:57 Calinou just build while on the server
10:57 Calinou it worked fine for Minecraft, it'll work fine for us
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15:29 Sokomine lisac: and if you don't have a network connection and build offline for the time beeing you can still save what you build and send the schematic to the server owner later on who can then integrate it
15:29 Sokomine doing that manually will work far better
15:34 lisac hm good idea
15:34 IhrFussel In case the server owner cooperates
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15:38 Sokomine it's work for the server owner, but if it's a worthy building, cooperation is likely. might not make much sense on a purely survival server
15:39 Sokomine and it's more work. but if someone doesn't have a net connection for a while...
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15:57 tenplus1 hi folkas
15:57 Sokomine hi ten
15:57 tenplus1 *folks
15:57 tenplus1 hi Sokomine
15:57 * Sokomine is glad that greeting here is allowed :-)
15:57 tenplus1 :P
15:57 DS-minetest hi eleven
15:57 tenplus1 hi DS
15:59 tenplus1 Q. has anyone had theyre server crash with a serialize.h error ?
16:01 ThomasMonroe hi tenplus1
16:01 tenplus1 hi thomas
16:01 tenplus1 *there
16:14 tenplus1 we've had a crashing issue for some time that results in a serialize.h error from entities, and after much bulletproofing it happened earlier today using the default game and no mods... am hoping it's not a bug in-game
16:14 shivajiva Hi ten, let me grep my logs for serialize.h
16:14 tenplus1 hi shiva and thanks
16:15 tenplus1 we do have a pull to sanitize entity variables : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4425 that would definitely help
16:15 tenplus1 or even if it showed an error message with the offending variable or line number
16:19 shivajiva tenplus1: sorry, nothing in the last 10 months
16:19 tenplus1 thx shiva...
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16:24 tenplus1 hi srifqi
16:24 srifqi hi tenplus1 !
16:24 srifqi what's up?
16:25 tenplus1 trying to figure out this serialize.h error
16:25 tenplus1 it's been over a year now and still can't track it down *sigh*
16:25 tenplus1 you ?
16:25 srifqi just updated my mod
16:25 tenplus1 which one ?
16:26 srifqi superflat
16:26 tenplus1 ahhh, kewl
16:27 tenplus1 mobs redo was updated also for anyone who uses it :D
16:27 srifqi :D
16:27 srifqi It has been a while since I'm into Minetest modding. (^_^")\
16:28 tenplus1 it's nice to have a break now and again :D
16:29 srifqi ofc :D
16:31 srifqi Travis CI needs about 10 min to download and compile Minetest, while my computer can take 15 to 20 min just for compiling. :(
16:31 tenplus1 would be nice to have a multivore beast to handle all of that compiling :S
16:32 srifqi 2 cores seems not enough
16:32 ThomasMonroe lol
16:32 ThomasMonroe i compiled minetest on an old CF-29 toughbook, want to know how long it took?
16:33 srifqi 2 hours?
16:33 ThomasMonroe close, an hour and a half
16:34 srifqi woah, my old laptop also about that long XD
16:34 ThomasMonroe XD this laptop is so old they dont even make them anymore
16:35 tenplus1 what make/model ?
16:35 ThomasMonroe can i do a sysinfo?
16:36 tenplus1 k
16:36 ThomasMonroe HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-36-generic i686 ** Distro: Ubuntu ** CPU: 1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 1.5GiB, 44.4% free ** Disk: Total: 71.8GiB, 39.8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller ** Sound: ICH4 - Intel ICH6 ** Ethernet: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet
16:36 ThomasMonroe Controller ** Uptime: 5h 11m 46s **
16:36 ThomasMonroe im still using the toughbook
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16:36 tenplus1 ooh, similar spec to my old COmpaq m2000 laptop but it has only 1gb mem :(
16:36 tenplus1 hi paramat
16:37 srifqi tenplus1, mine Toshiba NB205-N210.
16:37 ThomasMonroe nice
16:38 srifqi it was
16:38 srifqi It was running WinXP before it being upgraded to Win7.
16:38 tenplus1 eek, win7 on that spec, isnt it sloooooow?
16:39 srifqi Not, until it has lot of apps.
16:39 ThomasMonroe i couldnt upgrade from XP to 7 even if i wanted to, XP got a virus, so im using linux now
16:40 srifqi :O
16:40 tenplus1 I read yesterday that the new British battleships and uk police force computers all use WinXP... *shudder*
16:40 ThomasMonroe O.O
16:40 srifqi Now, that laptop's body is almost broke. :(
16:40 ThomasMonroe thats so easy to hack its not funny
16:41 tenplus1 I know...  it's as if there IT guys are all stupid or something
16:41 tenplus1 for a police force I wouldnt even use windows at all, it has so many holes and spyware attached to them
16:43 ThomasMonroe exactly
16:45 * tenplus1 uses a very lite Lubuntu 16.04 install which is a lot safer :D
16:45 * srifqi uses Lubuntu 17.04 on home computer.
16:48 tenplus1 I wanna try 17.10 alpha when it's out :)
16:48 srifqi tenplus1, how to upgrade from 17.04 to 17.10?
16:48 srifqi or should I just wait until it's out?
16:48 tenplus1 in terminal type:   sudo update-manager -d
16:49 tenplus1 and if a new release is available it'll let you uypgrade to it
16:49 srifqi Should I do it manually or will be there an application to handle that?
16:51 tenplus1 wait until you see the alpha 1 release for 17.10 in distrowatch.org  ..  then you'll know it shoudl work ok
16:55 tenplus1 Lubuntu 17.10 will have LxQt running which has more active development than LxDe
16:57 srifqi :O
16:58 srifqi Anybody knows what aardvark is before looking up?
16:58 tenplus1 yeah, it eats ants
16:58 srifqi woah
16:58 tenplus1 has claws sharp enough to dig up mounds to look for them
16:58 tenplus1 long snout and tongue to suck them outta little spaces :D
16:58 tenplus1 and love to be called Bertie
16:59 srifqi Just read about Ubuntu dev code name, it has interesting name.
16:59 benrob0329 Anyone else here have an xmpp account?
16:59 tenplus1 hi benrob... I have one but damned if I remember what it is
17:01 benrob0329 Well, mine it benrob0329 (at) jabber.at
17:02 tenplus1 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily​-live/current/artful-desktop-amd64.iso <-- for anyone interested in lubuntu daily build
17:03 * tenplus1 is downloading and making flash drive... am gonna test it out :PPPP
17:07 benrob0329 I can have a daily build of Gentoo, if I update daily :PPP
17:08 tenplus1 ehehe...  would be nice if ubuntu had rolling releases too
17:09 benrob0329 I dont think it would work with a Debian based distro, as they are made for a specific set of packages
17:12 tenplus1 good point... although I am happy that the latest ubuntu release will have everything compiled against python3... so we can finally remove 2.x
17:13 benrob0329 that's nice, arch defaults to Py3 nowadays
17:13 benrob0329 I think Gentoo does as well
17:15 Shara Hi all
17:16 IhrFussel I wonder if they really drop 32-bit support for 18.04 ... they were discussing it in 2016 and 17.04 dropped 32-bit PPC support already
17:16 tenplus1 hi shara, hi fussel
17:17 tenplus1 brb, booting into 17.10 :PP
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17:17 IhrFussel Hey there =)
17:17 srifqi But, my computer is still using 32-bit processor. :(
17:20 IhrFussel srifqi, mine is from 2005 so 32-bit too...and I'm very broke and can't upgrade in the near future so I kinda hope they will not drop the support
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17:24 TenPlus1 I has returned :PP
17:25 TenPlus1 lxqt isnt on this build :(
17:25 srifqi But, 32-bit system will also fail in 2038. .-.
17:27 benrob0329 32 bit systems haven't been manufactured since what, 2010?
17:27 benrob0329 they're almost a decade outdated
17:28 TenPlus1 yeah, anyone buying new tech will be using a 64-bit system now and older laptops wont last forever
17:28 TenPlus1 considering you can get a new 64-bit lappy for 100quid its not that bad
17:33 TenPlus1 I'd only build 32-bit support for the LTS releases
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17:40 * TenPlus1 is impressed... noveau works perfectly this time around, hardware video playback enabled on youtube outta the box :D
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17:56 Krock hi TenPlus1
17:57 TenPlus1 hi Krock :P am testing lubuntu 17.10 :PP
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17:57 TenPlus1 hi ssieb
17:58 Krock TenPlus1, so you upgraded? I thought you already used lubuntu before
17:59 TenPlus1 I do...  17.04 on desktop... testing 17.10 from flash drive
18:02 garywhite Are there any forum staff online? We have a situation on the HOMETOWN thread...
18:02 TenPlus1 hi gary...
18:03 benrob0329 VanessaE, sfan5
18:03 garywhite hi ten
18:03 Sokomine garywhite: i'm not forum staff. but i gave up on the hometown thread some time ago. too many postings to follow it
18:03 garywhite Let's just say some drama on the server has blown up & now it's taking over the forum thread
18:04 TenPlus1 never good when that happens...
18:06 Sokomine guess such situations (whatever they are) can't be entirely avoided. we might need a place for those more...younger...people to...post..without going on everybodys nerves too much
18:07 garywhite I should say drama that was between a multi-game group on HOMETOWN and a group in MC that then expanded to HOMETOWN, and then in the last 24 hours it just exploded to Discord servers and the forum thread
18:07 TenPlus1 I kinda feel that whoever starts the topic should be able to remove posts
18:07 Sokomine no, never good, but cannot entirely be avoided
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18:09 garywhite To put it simply, I literally am at the point where I'm ready to quit MT
18:09 benrob0329 garywhite: ive been like that before
18:10 garywhite Both XtremeHacker & octacian_ can attest that it's gotten way out of hand for even several people to try & control
18:10 benrob0329 But Mt is a large community, there will be parts of it that you may need to leave
18:10 garywhite & elinor
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18:10 TenPlus1 wb octacian
18:10 TenPlus1 hi Hijiri
18:10 Hijiri hi
18:10 octacian Thanks
18:10 Hijiri but bye though since I have to go
18:11 TenPlus1 lol
18:11 Hijiri I'm just going to idle here
18:11 Hijiri (like usual)
18:11 * benrob0329 wants a MT xmpp chat
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18:15 TenPlus1 hi DI3HARD139
18:15 DI3HARD139 Hello
18:16 Sokomine garywhite: oh :-( that sounds bad
18:19 sofar xmpp chat inside minetest would require to ship an XML parser in minetest
18:20 sofar that ain't gonna fly
18:20 TenPlus1 irc is simpler :PPP
18:20 benrob0329 Not quite what I meant...
18:20 sofar of course, one could just create an xmpp pidgin chat
18:20 sofar not that anyone would use it, is my guess
18:21 benrob0329 XMPP is quite nice, actually
18:21 benrob0329 You dont have to register on every server
18:21 benrob0329 And you can upload images, and have built in logs
18:22 benrob0329 And like discord it has roles
18:26 red-001 any forum admins online?
18:27 TenPlus1 hi red
18:27 red-001 https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21490 https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21491 https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21492 https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21493 https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21489
18:27 red-001 someone seems to be mass registering accounts
18:28 TenPlus1 that's not good...  maybe advert poster person
18:28 red-001 seems to be a
18:28 red-001 nazi Llama thing....
18:30 garywhite That would be part of said drama
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18:31 TenPlus1 wb Thomas
18:34 sofar what's the original username?
18:36 red-001 sofar, it seems this is a respons to something that happened on a minetest server
18:36 red-001 I'm not aware of any orginal username
18:37 sofar seems like a forum ban is in order here
18:37 garywhite There is no original
18:38 garywhite This was a neo-Nazi anti-Semitic (I hope I spelled that right) clan on MC that was at war with a clan on HOMETOWN, and it has blown up in the last weeks, and now the last 24 hours it has gone too far.
18:39 XtremeHacker I'll back @garywhite up on that
18:39 garywhite Can anyone run those llamas & see if they're on the same IP too? We have a possible idea as to who it may be
18:39 TenPlus1 hi xtreme
18:39 sofar they're all on the same IP
18:39 Krock possible future of our dear SAM: http://www.overclockers.com.au/​images/newspics/28apr17/33.jpg
18:39 DS-minetest https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=10&amp;t=16699&amp;p=280460#p280448
18:39 sofar some dude in texas with frontier internet
18:40 XtremeHacker Same IP as DiamondKnight?
18:40 TenPlus1 looks like trump krock
18:40 garywhite can you run diamond knight?
18:40 DS-minetest Krock: haha
18:40 Krock TenPlus1, uh oh.
18:40 garywhite Check his IP too? We think he may have started this
18:40 * TenPlus1 has heard rumour or a Minecraft movie in the works
18:41 sofar diamond knight is not the same IP
18:41 * red-001 heard a rumour of rumours
18:41 sofar doesn't matter who started it, though
18:41 red-001 TenPlus1, the real story is who is leaking the rumours
18:41 garywhite @TenPlus1: I think it's true, I read a few months ago that Warner ordered a MC movie
18:42 TenPlus1 hell, we have an emojii movie... haha... so why not mc
18:42 garywhite May 24, 2019 release date
18:42 Krock TenPlus1, no, this is trump: http://www.overclockers.com.au​/images/newspics/21apr17/7.jpg
18:42 Sokomine the amazing adventures of sam vs. tree? who will win?
18:43 TenPlus1 I wonder what kinda backstory they'll add to it...
18:43 Sokomine Krock: *g*
18:43 garywhite Just google Minecraft movie
18:44 Krock ^^
18:45 TenPlus1 I like the latest pull for the creative inventory :) nicely done....   wish it had a tab for crafting guide as well
18:46 red-001 if someone is going to ban them it might be a good idea to wipe thier posts
18:46 TenPlus1 +100
18:50 sofar uh, it does appear they posted as the same IP as diamond knight
18:53 sofar afk a bit, bbl to handle this.
18:54 TenPlus1 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php​?f=3&amp;t=17997&amp;view=unread#unread <-- seriously
18:57 red-001 great Diamond knight is already relasing a statment saying they "forged" pm's
18:59 red-001 or not?
18:59 red-001 it's confusing
18:59 red-001 they are either deining it was them or admitting
18:59 garywhite Just ban them & get it the heck over with
19:00 red-001 at the very least it's not "no comment"
19:04 XtremeHacker The IPs are the same
19:04 XtremeHacker DK is a very elaborate troller
19:10 shivajiva didn't the group start on Roblox?
19:10 shivajiva welcome to the llama clan! don't you just hate it when a llama named carl stabs you 37 times in the chest then eats your hands? if so, join! :3
19:10 TenPlus1 very weird indeed
19:12 shivajiva yea it's full of people with 37 holes in them and no hands :)
19:12 * shivajiva smirks
19:13 shivajiva https://www.roblox.com/gro​ups/group.aspx?gid=588068
19:14 red-001 shivajiva, sounds like it's based on that werid youtube series
19:19 red-001 see "llamas with hats"
19:20 shivajiva dunno, possible origins in animaljam
19:22 red-001 well it seems it's all the same person
19:24 TenPlus1 am well impressed with Lubuntu 17.10 ... booted from flash drive with minetest installed in memory and running on Xanadu only uses 720mb :D
19:33 * benrob0329 returns
19:34 benrob0329 My new audio interface came in :D
19:35 Calinou hi
19:35 benrob0329 Hi Calinou
19:35 Raven262 Hello Calinou
19:36 TenPlus1 hi Cal
19:42 TenPlus1 nite all :D
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20:13 red-001 https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21489
20:14 red-001 VanessaE or who ever is doing the clean up forgot to delete that one
20:14 sfan5 red-001: i'll deal with that
20:18 red-001 ty
21:12 * Fixer .ooO(vaporwave time)
21:14 Fixer lets compile
21:57 Fixer tin still has no stair/slab
21:57 Fixer block*
22:05 Fixer some more work https://i.imgur.com/sgOsfTa.png
22:09 ThomasMonroe bye guys i gtg for now, cya tonight
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22:37 Fixer VanessaE: mesh not found: character.x (VE-S)
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22:51 Fixer i love caverealms so much
22:59 Fixer JUST ONE MORE AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
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23:17 XtremeHacker Hey, I had a question
23:18 XtremeHacker I want some code to be run when a node is placed, but to stop if the node is removed
23:18 XtremeHacker How do I do so?
23:18 XtremeHacker I'm thinking it would be on construct, but I'm not sure, and don't know how I would use that
23:20 red-001 what are you trying to achive?
23:21 XtremeHacker I am making a miner, and want to run some code that will scan a given position, save the nodename to a variable, then set the node to air
23:21 XtremeHacker I could use an ABM, but there must be a better way
23:21 red-001 nodetimer?
23:22 XtremeHacker A friend reccomened that, can't find any good information on it though
23:22 XtremeHacker Google doesn't seem to help
23:26 red-001 see tnt
23:26 red-001 it uses it to time the blast
23:27 XtremeHacker OK, thanks, I'll check that out
23:42 sofar saplings have node timers, are probably much more simple

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