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00:56 ircSparky would anyone like to spend an hour or two helping me make a minetest video?
00:56 bigfoot547 How?
00:57 ircSparky I need "actors"
00:57 bigfoot547 What are these "actors" gonna do?
00:57 ircSparky right, run, talk
00:57 ircSparky basic
00:57 ircSparky nothing too fancy
00:57 ircSparky its for a "trailer"
00:58 bigfoot547 Well, I might not have an hour
00:58 ircSparky ok
00:58 bigfoot547 trailer for what?
00:58 ircSparky my server :P
00:58 bigfoot547 What's it called?
00:58 ircSparky Persistent Kingdoms
00:59 bigfoot547 I see
00:59 bigfoot547 elkien3.com is ip?
01:00 bigfoot547 ircSparky, ^^^
01:00 ircSparky yes
01:01 bigfoot547 If you can wait 30-mins or so, I can be on
01:01 ircSparky ok
01:01 ircSparky let me know when you're coming
01:01 bigfoot547 I'll be back
01:01 bigfoot547 I'll let you know
01:02 ircSparky k
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01:28 bigfoot547 ircSparky, I'm back
01:29 bigfoot547 I'm joining the server
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07:17 tenplus1 hi folks
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07:22 tenplus1 hi lisac
07:23 lisac Hey tenplus1
07:23 lisac Hi Calinou
07:23 lisac sorry for us leaving yesterday
07:23 lisac power loss
07:59 Calinou lisac: ah
08:00 Calinou lisac: do you live in the same household as Raven262? :P
08:05 tenplus1 hi Cal
08:12 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API updated with optimizations and a few fixes for default nodes
08:14 Raven262 joined #minetest-hub
08:14 tenplus1 wb raven
08:14 Raven262 Thanks tenplus1
08:15 Raven262 I had a thunderstorm here yesterday, lost electricity for a while
08:15 tenplus1 ouch
08:15 Raven262 Calinou, and thats basically why i suddenly left the server.
08:16 Raven262 Yep, tenplus1, i didn't plug in my PC until this morning
08:16 Raven262 I didn't want it to get burned by thunder, so i went earlier to sleep
08:17 tenplus1 good idea, dont wanna break your pc incase of strike... das why I have a UPS
08:18 Calinou Raven262: you're in the same household as lisac? I was wondering
08:19 Raven262 Yes, we are brothers.
08:32 * tenplus1 wonders how easy it would be to separate player from default and place inside it's own mod
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08:40 tenplus1 hi Krock
08:40 Krock hi tenplus1
08:41 tenplus1 do you think it would be an advantage to separate player into it's own mod ??
08:42 Krock the player.lua file?
08:42 tenplus1 anything related to player itself... yes
08:44 Krock hmm.. it's independent with the other "default" code, so it would be easily possible to do this. The problem is keeping the support with mods that make use of these functions
08:44 tenplus1 so that games who replace default. can simply use player. for most things
08:44 tenplus1 0.5.0 idea
08:44 tenplus1 since we'll break compatibility in that release anyhoo
08:45 Krock question is, if it's going to break everywhere or just in the protocol
08:45 tenplus1 this will let us replace parts, add extra animations and features etc to players
08:46 Krock indeed
08:46 tenplus1 e.g. in mobs redo to ride a mob I need 'default' only because default.player_attached is used instead of player.attached for instance
08:47 tenplus1 so dropping it into any [game] can be difficult without modification
08:47 tenplus1 also   default.player_get_animation could easily be player.get_animatino
08:47 tenplus1 *ion
08:49 Krock all skin and armor mods would break if there's not at least a soft-dependency on default to provide backwards compability
08:49 Krock (if possible)
08:49 tenplus1 true, but since 0.5.0 will break compatibility anyhow many mods will be changed to work
08:50 Krock "<Krock> question is, if it's going to break everywhere or just in the protocol"
08:50 tenplus1 and a few function changes to player. is easy enough to alter... especially since minetest has changed many already :D
08:50 Krock I'm not sure if there are API breaks planned yet
08:53 tenplus1 from what I read networking protocol changes will be implemented which means 0.5.0 servers need 0.5.0 clients to run
08:53 tenplus1 lemmie check this... brb
08:54 Shara Morning all
08:56 Krock tenplus1, yes. The network communication will break. But nothings know about the API for mods or the world support
08:57 tenplus1 ah
09:04 * Shara wonders why the usual greeters ignored her and finds a corner to hide in
09:04 tenplus1 hi Shara
09:04 Shara Nope, too late!
09:04 Shara World clearly ended!
09:05 * tenplus1 offers Shara donut n coffee
09:05 * Shara takes only the doughnut, then hides again
09:05 Shara Tea? :P
09:05 tenplus1 {_}p <-- dainty tea cup
09:05 Shara Yay!
09:06 Shara Though when it comes to tea, I'm quite happy with a great big mug.
09:06 Shara Or a bucket.
09:06 Shara :D
09:06 tenplus1 that's a lotta tea :P
09:06 Shara Yup!
09:07 Shara tenplus1: Is there currently anyway for your teleport potions not to work if the coord is a protected area which isn't protected by the user?
09:08 Shara They are being abused a lot on DL by people who teleport through walls to get inside people's bases
09:09 tenplus1 that would interfere with normal usage though, if a public TP pad was setup to go to a mine that was protected then player couldnt go there
09:09 tenplus1 will think of a way to lock/unlock areas
09:10 Shara No, you misunderstand
09:10 Shara The check should be when the coordinate is entered
09:10 Shara So if I use a potion to go to my area, and people follow me through before it closes, that should work
09:10 Shara But if I use a potion are enter a coordinate to YOUR area, it should fail to activate
09:11 Shara and enter*
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09:11 tenplus1 hi DS
09:11 tenplus1 hrm, gonna have to think about teleport usage and protection
09:11 Shara That would mean any public teleport pad set up by an admin could still take players anywhere
09:12 Shara I've got players in danger of leaving, since those who like PVP have started collecting coordinates of bases so they can just teleport there any time
09:13 Shara It makes building a base to protect yourself redundant, but I really don't want to remove the mod
09:13 tenplus1 for now how about disabling teleport pad recipe and have them only use 1-time portal
09:14 Shara That was done from the start
09:14 Shara But for well established players, making lots of potions is easy anyway
09:14 Shara I also had to chop out the irc mod's whereis command
09:15 Shara Since they had learned to sign into irc, use that, then a potion to instantly find their target
09:15 DS-minetest hi
09:15 Shara I'm happy for people to PVP on DL, but they shouldn't be able to kill who they want any time they feel like, or get into people's bases like that
09:15 tenplus1 if I find any books or signs containing player coords I remove them
09:16 Shara I don't think they are recording this in game
09:16 Shara Updating potions to respect area protection would fix the whole thing
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09:16 Shara Hi DS-minetest :)
09:22 tenplus1 hrm, technical challenge to check protected area without teleporting player there 1st
09:22 DS-minetest hi Shara :)
09:22 Shara If the check is done when setting coord, that would be before the teleport anyway
09:23 Shara I don't want to prevent a teleport if setting the coord was judged "allowed"
09:23 tenplus1 but that part of the map MUST be loaded to check for protection
09:23 Shara Hmmm
09:23 tenplus1 areas stores all protected areas in memory and inside a file... protector redo checks require you to actually be there
09:23 Shara That makes it difficult
09:23 Shara Ugh, really don't want to remove the mod :(
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09:29 tenplus1 hi Megaf
09:29 Shara Hello Roary Tiger
09:47 Megaf Hi tenplus1
09:47 tenplus1 o/
09:48 tenplus1 back laters...
09:54 Megaf Hi Shara
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13:26 Megaf Hi Jordach
13:32 Megaf http://imgur.com/a/yWAd1
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13:32 Megaf That's an old photo of my old Nokia
13:32 DS-minetest joined #minetest-hub
13:32 Megaf To proove once and for all how strong they really are
13:33 bigfoot547 Hello
13:34 Megaf Hey bigfoot547
13:34 Megaf [10:32:29] <Megaf> http://imgur.com/a/yWAd1
13:35 Megaf [10:32:39] <Megaf> That's an old photo of my old Nokia
13:37 DS-minetest on a new photo of the same phone, the phone would be undestroyed again because … nokia
13:48 Megaf I had two Nokias in my life
13:48 Megaf Hated both, destroyed both
13:49 Megaf all other phones I had were Motorolas, never had a single issue with any
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14:08 kaeza hi tenplus1
14:08 Megaf he is not here
14:09 kaeza preventive measure :P
14:09 Megaf kaeza: I almost had a heart attack now. Was uploading my photo library, photos from 2005 to the cloud, and then I begin to listen some hard disk clicks!
14:09 kaeza bom dia Megaf
14:09 Megaf those loud clicks a HD make just before dying or failing
14:09 kaeza Megaf, that's bad
14:10 Megaf thankfully, it was not coming from my HDs, but from my phone! I rebooted it, and since its encrypted it clicks to warn that I have to input the password
14:10 Megaf :D
14:10 kaeza I had an HDD die on me recently. it's not a nice situation :(
14:10 Megaf That's why Im uploaded dozens of thousands of photos
14:10 kaeza heh
14:11 Megaf the current batch is 10147 photos
14:23 benrob0329 Ndew desktop config stuffs: http://imgur.com/a/DkhOH
14:24 Megaf I just turned on my air conditioner, after nearly 3 years
14:24 Megaf (Im back in Brazil visiting my family)
14:24 Megaf it made some interesting noises
14:25 Megaf what kind of WM/DE is that?
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14:32 tenplus1 hi folks
14:34 bigfoot547 Hi tenplus1
14:34 tenplus1 hi bigfoot5
14:35 Megaf Hi tenplus1
14:36 tenplus1 hi megaf
14:36 Megaf "Time For Pride" on Spotify, meh
14:38 Raven262 hi 11
14:39 tenplus1 hi raven
14:39 tenplus1 which mod is it that has a teleport pad that links up with a destination pad ?
14:40 Raven262 I'm wondering, did you set up your irc client to highlight 11 as your nick too?
14:40 tenplus1 lol nope
14:40 Raven262 xD
14:40 tenplus1 I use Pidgin for irc, so very limited usage
14:40 Raven262 I recommend hexchat
14:41 Raven262 Since you can place an image in the background
14:41 tenplus1 tried it, is very good but all my chats are through the one client to save me opening multiple programs
14:41 * Shara has same issue as Ten
14:41 Raven262 Ah
14:41 tenplus1 hi shara... am looking for a teleport mod I think you'd like on server
14:41 Shara Ohhh, okay :D
14:41 tenplus1 it has you place outgoing portal/pad and arrival pad so taht players MUST place both for them to work
14:42 tenplus1 but for the life of me I cannot remember it's anme
14:42 Shara I actually have a request for you as well. (another one, yea, I know :P)
14:42 tenplus1 *name
14:42 tenplus1 lol
14:42 Shara I finally went ahead and opened my own fork of bewarethedark, so I can start building in some of the things I want for it
14:42 tenplus1 ooh nice
14:42 Shara But I have no idea if what I'm change is just bad bad bad modding :P
14:42 Shara changing*
14:42 tenplus1 found it, Translocators: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php​?f=9&amp;t=17845&amp;hilit=teleport+mod  check this
14:43 Shara So would you be willing to take a look when I stick this on github?
14:43 tenplus1 lemmie see git link when you're done and I'll let ya know :D
14:43 Shara Ohhhhh. This looks interesting
14:43 * Shara saves link
14:43 tenplus1 translocators needs a portal on each side, so no teleport griefing into someone's house
14:43 Megaf tenplus1: I migrated most of my stuff to Google Chrome man. Skype, WhatsApp, Hangouts, Office, all on Chrome
14:43 Megaf less things open
14:44 Shara tenplus1: I'm basically looking to use the hidden inventory system to add a mechanism to let moderators not take darkness damage
14:44 tenplus1 I like keeping things apart from browser just incase it crashes
14:44 Megaf web.skype.com web.whatsapp.com hangouts.google.com play.spotify.com music.google.com
14:44 Shara But not sure if I am doing this right, or even if it's a good idea / approach
14:44 Megaf This is true portability
14:45 Shara I'm playing with code I only half understand here :D
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15:00 tenplus1 hi fussel
15:01 IhrFussel Hello
15:09 Shara Hi Fussel
15:12 Megaf Shara: What'd be the fun if you dominated the code:
15:12 Megaf ?
15:12 Shara Megaf: I feed my code to tigers on a regular basis :)
15:13 Megaf oh
15:13 Megaf I better hide
15:14 Megaf And I think travelnet is the best teleport mod ever
15:14 Megaf the network idea is genius
15:14 kaeza ^
15:15 Megaf kaeza: Buenos dias, by the way :)
15:17 Shara Megaf: Kind of depends on what fits the server in my opinion
15:23 Raven262 Calinou, wanna play Quake3 again? I promise there will be no power surges xD
15:23 Raven262 At least i don't see any thunderstorms nearby.
15:26 tenplus1 lol
15:30 Calinou Raven262: I'll go for a walk soon
15:30 Calinou so, not right now
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15:34 Raven262 Sure.
15:38 Megaf I still want a rail that works
15:40 Raven262 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14726  <<--- A rail that works.
15:41 Megaf Great
15:41 Megaf Now I need someone to build the network in my server
15:41 Megaf We already dug the tunels
15:42 Megaf and built the stations for the underground]
15:42 Raven262 They have to be 3 nodes wide for that mod
15:42 Megaf we just need the rail and trains
15:42 Megaf oh dear
15:42 Megaf tunnels are like 5x2
15:42 Raven262 Well, you could use carts for that :P
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15:43 Raven262 Also, this mod doesn't support 45 degree uphill route
15:43 tenplus1 hi calcul0n
15:44 calcul0n hi
15:44 kaeza greetings, tenplus1
15:45 * kaeza wonders why he tried to tab-complete "greetings"
15:45 tenplus1 ehehehe
15:47 Megaf I have to get my ex back to me so we can upgrade the undergraund infrastructure we built when together
15:48 Megaf Raven262: anyway, thanks for the link, it looks brilliant
15:50 Krock o/ kaeza
15:50 kaeza o/ Krock
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15:52 tenplus1 hi nrz
15:59 IhrFussel If a website crashes the browser the webmaster of that site is doing something wrong by the way
15:59 red-001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jre-aMAgP5I
16:01 tenplus1 hi red
16:30 Raven262 Megaf, I'm suprised you didn't know of it actually Oo
16:31 Raven262 I thought it is a rather popular mod
16:45 Megaf well, Ive been quite away from Minetest in this last year
16:51 red-001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBMOG_dTbWo
16:51 red-001 !title
16:51 ShadowBot red-001: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB.
16:51 red-001 'Dynamic shadows with shaders! (proof of concept for Minetest :P)'
16:52 tenplus1 sweet, that looks awesome
16:53 tenplus1 any performance hits when using it ?
16:53 * red-001 hopes Blockmen will allow it to be backported
16:54 tenplus1 blockmen has been a busy chappie :P
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17:05 Megaf red-001: ok, now we can remove all other shader stuff and that stupid centered in the sky unreal light source
17:05 Megaf and use actually the sun and torches to light everything
17:05 tenplus1 :PP
17:10 Megaf red-001: how can I test that:
17:10 Megaf ?
17:16 red-001 you can't
17:16 red-001 blockmen hasn't made any of the code public
17:28 * Megaf mentally punches Blockman in his brain
17:28 Raven262 red-001, i see that blockmen has done many effects on his own like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV3pzd2Tz_g
17:28 Raven262 *blockman
17:29 Raven262 I have seen that he did many different water shaders actually
17:30 * Raven262 wonders why did he correct the correctly written name.
17:30 tenplus1 :P
17:31 Megaf we just need two shaders, one for light sources and their shadows, and one for reflections, IMHO
17:45 Megaf Get Lucky from Sopitfy actually sounds great on a descent stereo
17:48 benrob0329 Megaf: Bspwm + Polybar
17:48 Megaf polybar, aha
17:48 Megaf GTK?
17:48 benrob0329 Nope
17:49 Megaf ok
17:49 benrob0329 I believe its based on Lemonbar
17:49 Megaf Am I the only one who get a good feeling when opening my own website with Ghostery active and theres absolutely nothing to block:
17:49 Megaf ?
17:49 Megaf on my site I put no tracker/add at all
17:50 Megaf Im qutie proud of it
17:50 Megaf and its wordpress based
17:50 benrob0329 Nice
17:51 Megaf Not even the Instagram plugin that get my photos from my instagram and shows nicely tracks users
18:05 IhrFussel I just noticed sometimes when I dig leaves with the "plantlike" setting enabled my entire HUD refreshes for a fraction of a sec ... very weird
18:05 tenplus1 strange...  haev the fixed the flickering hand issue ?
18:06 IhrFussel It still happens but less frequent...seems like they were right when they said my client mapblock settings were too low
18:07 tenplus1 :P
18:17 IhrFussel I need to figure out what eats so much RAM in my Bash script...sometimes suddenly I see my script in top with 30+ % memory usage which is almost 1 GB
18:21 Megaf What does your script do:
18:21 Megaf ?
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18:28 tenplus1 hi bigfoot
18:29 Megaf wb bigfoot547
18:29 Megaf tenplus1: you failed
18:29 tenplus1 I did ?
18:29 Megaf it should have been wp not hi
18:29 Megaf wb*
18:29 tenplus1 eheheh
18:30 tenplus1 *hi=wb   fixed
18:30 bigfoot547 hi Megaf
18:31 Megaf tenplus1: careful man, might cause floating point overflow
18:31 Megaf the 128 bit kind of it
18:31 Megaf can you imagine a 128 FP overflow?
18:31 Calinou <Megaf> I have to get my ex back to me so we can upgrade the undergraund infrastructure we built when together
18:31 Calinou #PrayForMegaf
18:31 tenplus1 speaking of which, got the serialize.h error again using nothing but default... what gives ?!?!?!
18:31 Megaf Calinou: I'd actually be happy if somebody did man =/
18:32 Megaf the subway infrastructure is quite huge
18:32 tenplus1 infrastructure ?
18:32 Megaf we built the tunels and stations
18:33 * Megaf listenting to https://open.spotify.com/user/spoti​fy/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX9loJQLuEvap
18:33 Megaf well, I can show one or two subway stations we made if you care to join Megaf Server...
18:34 Bobr2 thank you
18:34 tenplus1 :P
18:35 Megaf I got a weird bug in the latest master client minetest
18:35 Megaf I just cycled F7
18:36 Megaf and now I see in my screen the animation of action
18:36 Megaf like using the sword or whatever
18:36 Megaf but no action is been performed
18:39 Megaf hm
18:40 Megaf I cant ssh into my server
18:40 Calinou also, I thought it was IRL underground infrastructure
18:40 Megaf oh, no
18:40 Megaf we hadnt gotten to that point yet
18:40 Megaf we could tho
18:41 Megaf she is architect and urbanist and I have some design/engineering skills
19:08 IhrFussel Megaf, it's the MT Server chat bot, so depending on what players say in the chat it will do different things
19:29 Jordach sofar, https://i.imgur.com/HAoatwA.png
19:30 tenplus1 lolol
19:30 Jordach https://imgur.com/a/lWNqa
19:30 Jordach here's more, caution, this is a 4chan album
19:31 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/xiEDW7v.png
19:32 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/BkInKnr.png
19:32 Jordach tenplus1, https://i.imgur.com/i8zCJ0G.png
19:33 tenplus1 :pPpP
19:33 Jordach tenplus1, https://i.imgur.com/1VM48LD.png
19:34 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/kuYtWkR.png
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19:43 tenplus1 hi lisac
19:50 lisac Hi tenplus1
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19:52 tenplus1 hi paramat
19:57 tenplus1 Q. should mob explosions use tnt.boom() from TNT mod for simplicity ?
19:59 DS-minetest sure
20:00 DS-minetest but tnt.boom destroys the node at the center
20:00 DS-minetest and doesn't drop it
20:01 tenplus1 typically is creeper explodes the node at centre is empty anyhoo (it's inside creeper)
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20:01 Sokomine mob sould be safe from exploding. exploding isn't a very good way for a mob to survive. make them run away. these explosions are more than annyoing. yes, it might be needed in mineclone2, but it's not a good feature and ought not to be used elsewhere
20:01 * Sokomine creates a virus that terminates all exploding mobs
20:02 tenplus1 it's an attack mode in mobs api... only 1 mob uses it so far and it's creeper
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20:03 tenplus1 if I use tnt.boom from TNT mod then it handles drops and all function calls instead of me doing it all
20:03 tenplus1 hi fixer
20:03 Sokomine they're griefers, those mobs. down with them :-)
20:03 tenplus1 lol
20:04 Fixer hi
20:04 Sokomine hi fixer
20:06 lisac Calinou, Wanna play Quake3?
20:06 Calinou ok
20:08 Calinou I'm on hugo.pro:27961 again
20:09 Megaf IhrFussel: whos the bot?
20:10 Megaf Jordach: image editing from command line
20:10 * Megaf has done that
20:11 IhrFussel I use a Bash script as game bot ... it is easier to code in Bash than in Lua PLUS you can modify the bot contents runtime
20:12 * DS-minetest finally finished his csm_worldname mod
20:12 DS-minetest https://github.com/DS-Minetest/csm_worldname
20:12 IhrFussel Of course there are some functions the bot can't access, but whenever I can I use Bash for commands/features
20:12 tenplus1 Mobs Redo API updated to use tnt mod's functions instead of it's own mobs:explosion
20:14 Megaf tenplus1: I dont use/have tnt stuff
20:15 lisac k :)
20:15 tenplus1 tnt mod is disabled on multiplayer by default which is good, but mobs api only uses tnt.boom function to make explosion and handle drops and hurt
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20:23 tenplus1 hi LazyJ
20:23 tenplus1 Megaf: I've amended it... if no TNT mod found it'll do entity damage only (hurt player/mobs)
20:23 tenplus1 that ok ?
20:23 LazyJ Howdy tenplus1 ;)
20:23 Megaf better
20:23 Megaf LazyJ: !
20:23 Megaf Hi :)
20:24 LazyJ Howdy Megaf ;)
20:24 Megaf https://open.spotify.com/user/johanb​rook/playlist/2mtlhuFVOFMn6Ho3JmrLc2 (Playlist for programming) (Begins with epic song from Tron soundtrack, by Daft Punk)
20:25 Megaf song is Sola Saller
20:25 Megaf song is Solar Saller
20:25 Megaf song is Solar Sailer
20:25 Megaf there ^
20:25 Krock too bad.. no Parov Stelar
20:26 Megaf listening the playlist for some hardcore building;compiling
20:27 tenplus1 nite folks o/
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20:44 Sokomine hardcore building? sounds nice. show us a screenshot eventually
20:44 Fixer holy fuck, we have outer and inner stairs...
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20:52 Sokomine didn't we have them for quite a while? or do you mean in mtg?
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21:18 KaadmY YASS SPECULAR WORKS.. KINDA
21:31 Fixer Sokomine: in mtg
21:41 Sokomine fixer: aah. fine. they're in almost all games anyway. glad they got added to mtg as well
21:41 Fixer it is about time :-)
21:45 Fixer ~Vaporwave~ time
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21:47 Fixer nice sporadic text aligning
21:54 KaadmY Egh, worldPosition is wrapped when it gets too large in the shader?
21:54 KaadmY But eyePosition doesn't..
21:55 KaadmY So specular works, minus that
21:55 KaadmY So as soon as the worldPosition wraps, specular goes borked
21:55 Calinou specular makes no sense in Minecraft/Minetest by the way
21:55 KaadmY Why?
21:55 Jordach Calinou, yes
21:55 Calinou 1) the sun/moon position are usually not accurately reflected
21:55 Calinou 2) same goes for any block light
21:56 KaadmY Yes
21:56 KaadmY Who cares about realism anyway
21:56 KaadmY If it looks good
21:56 Calinou I remember seeing screenshots of Misa's texture pack (in Minecraft) with specular, it looked goofy and tended to reflect even in dark caves
21:58 * KaadmY looks at the Minec***t Super Duper Graphics Pack
21:59 Calinou I once used a 512x pack in Minecraft
21:59 Calinou I remember the LBP Photorealism thing, that was a gooffest
21:59 Calinou if you thought cferril1's Minecraft Enhanced was goofy...
21:59 Calinou :D
22:00 KaadmY I don't think I'll try to add bloom just yet
22:01 KaadmY Since that would require screen space shaders
22:01 Calinou AND EVEN MORE BLOOM!
22:01 KaadmY YAS
22:01 Calinou what about water reflections? I used a Minecraft mod that had that once
22:02 Calinou and refractions
22:02 Calinou underwater caustics?
22:02 KaadmY Water refractions are easier I think
22:02 Calinou the last one shouldn't be very hard
22:02 Calinou it's just overlaying an animated texture on all underwater nodes
22:02 KaadmY But reflections, refractions, bloom, all require screen space shaders I think
22:02 KaadmY Caustics require knowlege of being underwater, which shaders can't get
22:03 KaadmY Shaders are unique for the entire mapblock  chunk
22:03 KaadmY So you can't change uniforms depending on node type or other factors
22:03 KaadmY I think
22:09 KaadmY Does anybody know where/when the world is wrapped back to zero while the camera moves around?
22:09 KaadmY It's wrapped somewhere and I can't find any obvious pointers as to where it's done
22:20 paramat i'll find the PR
22:21 paramat #1119
22:22 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1119
22:33 benrob0329 "Linux is too complicated!"
22:33 benrob0329 >literally has a built in manual
22:36 KaadmY 200 nodes?
22:36 KaadmY At least I was on the right track finding that
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