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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2017-08-02

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00:20 lisac DORMAMMU, I'VE COME TO BARGAIN
00:20 lisac Finally I've seen that movie
00:21 Raven262 Heh
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03:55 benrob0329 https://www.mirbsd.org/permal​inks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm
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10:49 IhrFussel Hi guys, I think I found the source of the segfault...it was likely too many file lookups per second that the server thread at some point couldn't handle anymore ... it didn't crash for 12+ hours now
10:50 IhrFussel After I greatly reduced the lookups*
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11:57 IhrFussel Why is max_drop_level NOT explained??
11:58 IhrFussel I set my tool to 10 uses but the tool doesn't seem to lose any
11:59 lisac IhrFussel, it does nothing
11:59 lisac it is supposed to be looked up by other mods
11:59 lisac I think
12:00 lisac here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/search?u​tf8=%E2%9C%93&q=+max_drop_level&type=
12:00 IhrFussel lisac, then I wonder why my modified admintool doesn't lose any uses when using it
12:00 lisac are you modifying on_afteruse?
12:01 lisac if you modified on_afteruse, you need to manually add wear
12:01 IhrFussel on_afteruse CANCELS the "using"?
12:01 lisac then return the modified itemstack
12:02 lisac No. on_afteruse should add wear, and does so by default
12:02 lisac but not if you override it
12:02 lisac https://github.com/lisacvuk/minetest​-toolranks/blob/master/init.lua#L95
12:02 lisac I had the same issue
12:04 IhrFussel Thanks, I think I can just remove my custom on_afteruse() inside the tool def since I make it a consumable anyway...before I checked if the player reached a certain level when using it
12:05 lisac oh, okay. :D
12:06 lisac hey shouldn't fog be dark underground?
12:06 IhrFussel I "abuse" the admintool as a limited all-in-one tool that can be purchased because many players kept asking me if they can get one xP
12:07 lisac I'd probably place a gold 'Level 7 limited tool'
12:12 IhrFussel lisac, do you know how I can add more wear to a tool? It seems to be max 1,200 right now and use=10 means it will only last for 120 nodes
12:13 IhrFussel I'm guessing the easiest would be to reduce the use per dig
12:17 IhrFussel Ohh now I understand....INCREASE the uses to make it more durable
12:32 Fixer SOOO MOOOOOVE
12:32 Fixer +36*C
12:33 Fixer RIP all ac-less workers
12:38 IhrFussel Is it possible to add the SAME wear to all node levels for one tool?
12:41 Calinou Fixer: I have a fan here :P
12:45 Fixer Calinou: but central France has pretty low temps
12:45 Fixer like 28*C
12:45 Calinou depends… we had 32°C or so, a few days ago
12:45 Calinou it's bearable but very hot still
12:45 Calinou (I prefer winter…)
12:46 Fixer Calinou: West Europe winters suck
12:46 Calinou we haven't got any snow last winter :(
12:46 Fixer we had few too
12:46 Calinou what is this, Minecraft Beta 1.8 Taiga biomes? :D
12:46 Calinou (they didn't have snow, due to bugs)
12:47 Fixer i do like Scandinavia/UK/Ireland/Island kind of temperatures
12:47 Fixer but everything else is boiling hot at summer
12:49 Fixer and if you have no AC at work in office - you are screwed big time, if worker outside - R.I.P.
12:49 Fixer i do really want smth like siesta for most of Europe with hot summers
12:50 Fixer at least for people without AC
13:10 lisac Fixer, tis 41°C in Serbia
13:11 lisac or they say so, at least
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15:37 IhrFussel The HUD API is buggy as heck! Suddenly all my HUD bars are messed up...the armor bar is suddenly my BREATH bar, my HEALTH bar is suddenly my ARMOR bar...my HUNGER bar is completely gray
15:38 IhrFussel How can that happen?? I thought each HUD element has its own ID
15:42 IhrFussel The engine should PREVENT such behavior
15:45 IhrFussel Even relogging does NOT fix it so it's definitely serverside
15:48 Raven262 I had the same problem
15:49 Raven262 My hunger bar was replaced by my stamina bar
15:49 Raven262 Restarting didn't help.
15:50 IhrFussel Raven262, well no bars changed visually but their behavior got mixed up...meaning the armor bar now acts like the air bar
15:51 Raven262 That exactly.
15:51 Raven262 Stamina bar was looking like the stamina bar but was showing the state of hunger
15:51 Raven262 wait
15:51 Raven262 i remember wrongly
15:51 Raven262 it was not stamina bar
15:52 Raven262 it was sanity bar
15:52 Raven262 in any case
15:52 Raven262 sanity and hunger were mixed up
15:52 Raven262 and hunger bar disappeared, so sanity bar was showing hunger's state
15:54 IhrFussel That should not be possible, I wonder what causes this...internal engine lag?
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15:55 Raven262 I have no idea
15:56 IhrFussel I just asked another player and they are experiencing the SAME so likely ALL players connected right now have that issue
15:56 Raven262 But i discarded it as i didn't know much of those mods
15:56 IhrFussel That is HORRIBLE
15:56 Raven262 The issue must be in one of those mods though, and i have no idea how they work.
15:59 IhrFussel No it's an engine bug more likely...each HUD has an own ID and the engine should prevent any ID conflicts from happening...I don't think the armor/hunger bars have anything in their definitions that could cause a race condition
16:00 calcul0n some mods just disable the default statbar huds and create their own
16:00 IhrFussel I also experienced another stupid HUD bug recently: A WHITE HUD suddenly turned BLACK...awesome
16:02 IhrFussel calcul0n, that shouldn't be an issue...once disabled the HUDs should be ignored for the rest of the runtime
16:03 calcul0n yes, but maybe the mod is using its own logic for these huds and does something stupid
16:03 IhrFussel But the bug didn't happen at boot time, it occured ~ 5 hours later
16:03 calcul0n ho, weird
16:03 IhrFussel That's why I say the engine must cause this
16:04 IhrFussel MAYBE it has something to do with the amount of HUDs
16:05 IhrFussel My server displays 7 HUDs at once, maybe that's too much for the engine
16:10 IhrFussel It only happens with statbar HUDs I think...my text ones are fine
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16:29 Krock hi.. everyone
16:32 IhrFussel The HUD bug fixed itself after a while...a very weird kind of bug
16:33 rdococ ~Neeeeeed~ ideas for my ~MoD~
16:34 rdococ Actually, I have an idea. nvm.
16:35 Krock there's a HUD bug?
16:36 Krock rdococ, ~How~ about a doge ~MoD~ ?
16:37 IhrFussel Krock, statbars suddenly behaving like other statbars is a bug I guess^^
16:37 Krock statbars = statbars  seems correct, no?
16:39 IhrFussel I mean armor statbar behaving like breathe statbar (decreasing/increasing when in water/out of water)
16:39 IhrFussel And health bar suddenly acting like it would be the armor bar
16:40 IhrFussel The engine must mix up HUD IDs under certain circumstances
16:41 IhrFussel But the engine also seems to fix the incorrect behavior on its own later which is the most weird part
16:42 rdococ Krock: my RMod has conveyors which tend to lag the player's camera. I might add a clientside mod to fix it.
16:42 Krock IhrFussel, hmm.. this means it got a wrong HUD id to modify. looks like a core issue
16:43 Krock maybe uninitialized variables or such
16:45 IhrFussel Krock, it is definitely a core issue because it happened well after booting up...maybe a lag caused it not sure
16:46 IhrFussel And it happened to several players not just one ... and while my HUD fixed itself now after ~ 1 hour the HUD of another player still is messed up
16:59 * rdococ wishes LuaEntitySAOs could change their pitch and roll, and if they can please disregard this message
17:01 rdococ Krock: ^
17:01 rdococ idk why I pinged you of all people, but I wanted /someone/ to look at it
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17:21 rdococ huh
17:21 rdococ note that mt stands for both metatable and minetest
17:31 Shara Hello all
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18:03 garywhite hello
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18:12 Raven262 Hi Shara
18:12 Shara Hi Raven262. How goes?
18:12 Raven262 Nice, except for the high outside temperatures
18:13 Raven262 They say its gonna be 37-41 this weekend
18:15 Shara That sounds painful.
18:16 Raven262 Oh, it is.
18:17 Raven262 Good thing though is that i don't have to get outside much.
18:17 Raven262 But sleeping is a bit hard.
18:20 Shara Yea... have been in such temperatures a few times, and it's not for me
18:37 garywhite High of 38C/101F here today
18:54 Calinou https://lut.im/CJQM8j9h1i/MXwmQSXxWAA3LIqF.png
18:54 Calinou made this in 2h30 with TrenchBroom… it took me a while to figure out how to make textures work, how to compile/light/vis the map
18:54 Calinou I did it all on my own, heh
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19:19 benrob0329 (Valve Live Stream) https://youtu.be/WlZQFyCiKbU
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19:35 tenplus1 hi folks
19:36 ThomasMonroe hi ten
19:36 tenplus1 hi thomas
19:37 DS-minetest hi eleven and ThomasMonroe
19:38 tenplus1 hi DS
19:38 ThomasMonroe hey DS
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19:41 tenplus1 hi ravem
19:41 tenplus1 *n :P
19:45 Shara Hi 11
19:45 tenplus1 hi Shara :P
19:51 lisac Hi tenplus1
19:51 lisac Hi Shara
19:52 Shara Hello lisac
19:52 lisac hey benrob0329 you watch DOTA International?
19:52 tenplus1 hi lisac
19:57 rdococ Out of interest, what /are/ the minetest color escape sequences? (As in, what does the function actually return, and is processed by the core as a text color changer?)
19:58 benrob0329 lisac: no, didn't know what it was, should be labeled
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19:59 lisac lol okay :D
19:59 tenplus1 seriously, I was in PM and got kicked for excess flood ?
19:59 lisac rdococ, (escape char)(@cRGBA)
19:59 lisac I think
19:59 benrob0329 "Valve International" sounded important to me :P
20:00 lisac or rather, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blo​b/2652d8db19fb2758de1da4c04ce169f80c87e5​c7/builtin/common/misc_helpers.lua#L651
20:00 rdococ hm. which char is the escape char?
20:00 lisac \
20:00 lisac https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blo​b/2652d8db19fb2758de1da4c04ce169f80c87e5​c7/builtin/common/misc_helpers.lua#L649
20:00 rdococ (\)(@cRGBA)?
20:01 rdococ ah, 1b.
20:01 lisac \(c@FFFF00)
20:01 rubenwardy lol, tenplus1, stop DDOS-ing IRC
20:01 lisac you can try it on servers with IRC mod
20:01 rdococ ah
20:01 tenplus1 lol, hi ruben
20:02 rdococ (c@FFFF00)
20:05 lisac rdococ, (c@#ff00ff)Test
20:05 lisac I tried that one
20:05 lisac it works
20:05 rdococ I can't seem to paste it into mt
20:05 rdococ even on wine
20:06 rdococ ah
20:07 lisac install IRC mod then paste it into server's channel
20:07 ThomasMonroe YAY
20:07 ThomasMonroe its rdococ
20:07 lisac Hi ThomasMonroe
20:07 ThomasMonroe hi lisac
20:07 tenplus1 http://lolsnaps.com/upload​_pic/9d719882-destiny.png
20:08 lisac tenplus1, I actually tried the new Edge browser
20:08 tenplus1 *shudder*
20:09 lisac I can't exactly remember why I switched from it. But I do remember telling myself never to open it again
20:11 tenplus1 will stick with firefox for now :)
20:11 rdococ Thomas.... MONROE!
20:11 lisac Good bot.
20:11 tenplus1 lol
20:12 lisac they actually thought SerBelvedere was a bot
20:12 lisac but look at his post history
20:12 lisac https://www.reddit.com/use​r/SirBelvedere/submitted/
20:12 lisac He doesn't even work at valve
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20:26 tenplus1 nite folks
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20:31 red-001 huh bbmine quit, I guess offtopic is going to be a bit more sane now
20:33 red-001 0x1b(c@red)Also why are we using minetest colour codes in chat?
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21:05 Fixer .
21:05 Jordach :thinking:
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21:11 Fixer chinisium crap strikes again
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21:49 rdococ Would it be theoretically possible to determine when a player has grabbed an item with his cursor in a formspec, and set that item's location to a secondary inventory while keeping it on his cursor?
21:52 rdococ Would it be theoretically possible to write a mod that prompts one of you to respond to my query above?
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22:10 rdococ behalebabo, would it be theoretically possible to determine when a player has grabbed an item with his cursor in a formspec, and set that item's location to a secondary inventory while keeping it on his cursor?
22:15 rdococ meh
22:16 rubenwardy no
22:16 rubenwardy also, don't be rude when asking questions, it doesn't make me want to answer them
22:20 rdococ eh?
22:20 rdococ sorry, forgot humor doesn't exist around here
22:25 rubenwardy :+1:
22:25 rubenwardy * (y)
22:26 rubenwardy :p
22:27 rdococ heh
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22:37 rdococ too bad the above isn't possible, it'd be useful.
23:24 Fixer *,.,,,*
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