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00:27 rdococ ɥɐɥ
00:27 benrob0329 rdococ: Just use wine
00:27 benrob0329 old MT works fine in it
00:28 rdococ isn't that what I said?
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00:31 benrob0329 rdococ: ok, now oyu have someone else saying to do that
00:32 rdococ ʎɐɐɐʎ
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01:28 rdococ / banana
01:58 Megaf good night
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02:25 rdococ https://gist.github.com/rdococ/4​be701fc41ffbcc5b81b4fdeb179bbca for those of you who were here earlier. I added some more ideas.
02:26 rdococ it adds the concept of associative arrays - and not only that, but the concept of being able to access their parent arrays.
02:29 rdococ hm... I want to add a better syntax than "x::parent(n)".
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08:00 tenplus1 hi folks
08:01 lumidify Hi tenplus1
08:01 tenplus1 hi lumidify :P
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08:03 tenplus1 hi tommy
08:06 Krock hi tenplus1
08:06 tenplus1 hi Krock
08:06 tenplus1 :P
08:19 * tenplus1 is reading the news and kinda wishing he hadn't
08:34 Krock what news?
08:34 tenplus1 http://www.dailymail.co.uk one look and you'll prolly wish you hadnt as well :D
08:36 Krock why the heck does this all look like an advertisement?
08:36 tenplus1 tabloids... they want you to click everything
08:38 Krock lol right, most of the content can be clicked
08:38 Krock actually almost everything
08:38 tenplus1 heh... seems US and N.Korea are at loggerheads...
08:39 tenplus1 lolol http://staginglol.gemnnwclth7mfvu.maxc​dn-edge.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08​/f44b12b8534d25eed5134a2aee0278e7.jpeg
08:44 Krock > windows
08:45 tenplus1 sad but true :P
08:45 tenplus1 ncie hack none the less
08:46 Krock https://i.redd.it/t19mmjqzesez.jpg
08:46 tenplus1 :P
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08:47 tenplus1 hi Darcidride
09:11 tenplus1 simple shops mod is pretty good :)
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09:32 Calinou hi
09:33 tenplus1 hi Cal
10:03 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIIC30w4OPA
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10:18 tenplus1 hi fixer
10:19 Fixer hello
10:20 Krock around 15:00 in that video it looks like MC doesn't have anything like VManip
10:20 tenplus1 it looks so much fun though :)))
10:20 tenplus1 I kinda like the idea of a mario kart styled game inside minetest :D
10:26 tenplus1 some of the special blocks would require  player:set_velocity()  to work
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10:53 tenplus1 Krock: would I really need to make a separate pull if the change is adding to the same line in a previous pull ???
10:54 Krock you can add it to the previous pull if it's not marked as "merged" yet
10:55 tenplus1 kewl, just making sure so I dont get the "make another pull" excuse :P
10:58 Krock sure, it must be in the context of the PR where you add it.
11:00 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1823
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11:08 tenplus1 hi kaeza
11:08 kaeza hi tenplus1
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11:09 tenplus1 hi cx384
11:10 cx384 hi
11:16 tenplus1 the tnt:boom node doesnt really need the on_construct and on_timer functions at all since they are already removed with the voxelmanip explosion
11:16 cx384 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq3isov6mZ8 This game is very similar to minetest.
11:16 tenplus1 it's just adding to tnt lag I tfeel
11:17 tenplus1 seems more ppl are doing minecraft remakes :PP
11:17 tenplus1 I liked the one in Python, that looked amazing
11:25 tenplus1 hi raven
11:25 Raven262 Hi tenplus1
11:27 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/pull/1868
11:28 tenplus1 brb
11:32 Krock is there a mod with daleks yet?
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11:33 CWz tenplus1, i have an idea how to make mobs super difficult for when selecting a very high difficulty, everyone shoots lasers at the players
11:33 CWz that would be silly
11:34 CWz now to figure out how to do this
11:34 tenplus1 hi twoelk
11:34 twoelk o/
11:34 twoelk \o
11:34 CWz ello tanplus1
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11:34 tenplus1 hi again CWz :PPP
11:34 tenplus1 wb thomas
11:35 ThomasMonroe hi ten
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11:35 tenplus1 hi Caleb
11:36 CalebDavis hi ten
11:36 tenplus1 wow, I has 3x TNT pull requests... #1823 #1844 and #1868
11:36 tenplus1 sofar: if you have the time could you check these and maybe approve ?
11:42 Raven262 tenplus1, i was experimenting with texture modifiers yesterday https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&t=156&p=288397#p288397
11:42 Raven262 That is only cobble texture used
11:43 tenplus1 nice... looks like the caverealms hot cobble :D
11:43 Raven262 It is meant to xD
11:43 tenplus1 ehehe
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12:25 tenplus1 wb
12:26 twoelk hm, seems my internat connection is unstable again :-(
12:26 tenplus1 who are you with ?
12:26 tenplus1 ISP ?
12:27 twoelk psst company line at work
12:27 tenplus1 heheh
12:29 twoelk ok, let me correct, my lan connection failed as I noticed something was wrong when I tried to start programs that run from some other server
12:30 tenplus1 ooh, wan issues :P
12:30 * twoelk looks around in search of the culprit that stumbled over his cables
12:30 tenplus1 ehehehehe
12:31 twoelk way to much colored spagetti lying around
12:31 tenplus1 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/54​/b5/3d/54b53df7352d957899dff7c1454144e4.jpg
12:32 * twoelk counts and finds 4 different printing devices running over his switch besides half a dozen media storage thingies
12:34 twoelk no, that picture is way too grey :-D
12:34 tenplus1 lol
12:34 tenplus1 tidy tho :P
12:35 Raven262 looks better than my cables here anyways
12:35 Raven262 (you don't want to see)
12:36 tenplus1 I cant say anything, my own system has cables all over the pback of it :p
12:36 twoelk yeah but them lines are fixed, mine here are constantly moving and changing just as we add or take stuff
12:36 Raven262 hey i have only 3 PC's connected to one switch, but it is still a mess
12:36 tenplus1 and wireless isnt always better
12:37 twoelk just now we needed to print some special labels so we connected an extra machine for that
12:37 twoelk na, I want to see what I connect to what
12:38 tenplus1 keeping it all in view for easy access... +1
12:39 tenplus1 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-19PoWVMl2vs/UjRG_NgZ43I/​AAAAAAAAI_Q/Oy21G3ortr8/s1600/Wall+mounted+PC.jpg
12:39 twoelk yep, I really hate it when people start hiding their cables
12:40 twoelk oohh, that actually looks neat
12:40 tenplus1 easy access to everything :P
12:40 Raven262 That is more for the showoff than for easy access, tenplus1.
12:41 twoelk I wish we had as much room for things
12:41 Raven262 Yea, check out my cables, they are lying all across the room
12:42 tenplus1 https://storiesofworld.com/wp-content/uploads/20​16/01/Computer-Cable-Management-on-the-Cheap.png mines is like the left photo :P
12:42 Raven262 mine too
12:42 Raven262 but triple
12:42 tenplus1 lol
12:42 twoelk and more colors
12:42 twoelk and more dust
12:43 Raven262 that
12:45 Krock solution: make it all wireless
12:45 Raven262 though all of my LAN cables are yellow, except the one that leads to the modem, that one is grey. Each pc has its own colour of VGA and each one has entirely different keyboard, monitor and mouse.
12:45 Raven262 One pc has the 2.1 sound system
12:45 twoelk In one of our offices the telefon company didn't appear so I put all our telefon lines through the lan structure using the main switchboards
12:46 twoelk nobody ever tried to redo that :-D
12:46 tenplus1 so long as it works ok :P
12:46 Krock s/telefon/telephone/
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12:46 tenplus1 hi robbie
12:47 RobbieF Hello tenplus
12:47 RobbieF how are ya
12:47 tenplus1 good ta, and yourself ?
12:47 RobbieF frickin' fantastic!
12:47 tenplus1 ehehe, glad to hear :0
12:47 RobbieF Made it to Thursday.
12:47 RobbieF Had a good show last night, so feeling good.
12:47 RobbieF :D
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12:47 twoelk oops thursday allready?
12:47 tenplus1 lol...  I updated Mobs Redo API/Animals/Monster and Real Torch mods if you use 'em
12:48 tenplus1 wb Megaf
12:48 Megaf Thanks tenplus1
12:48 Megaf tenplus1, your good luck for my kernel worked well
12:48 tenplus1 ooh nice one... any speed benefits and FPS improvement ?
12:48 Megaf reglnx@magnesium:~$ uname -a
12:48 Megaf Linux magnesium 4.12.5-Megaf #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Aug 9 20:42:38 IST 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux
12:49 Megaf tenplus1, I dont know man, the 0.4.16, aka 0.5 is too different
12:49 Megaf and broken
12:49 Megaf its way slower
12:49 tenplus1 am still using 0.4.16-dev build on 19th july
12:52 Megaf I will build now git master as it is now and stable-0.4
12:53 Megaf then I will be able to compare things
12:53 tenplus1 am waiting for 0.5 to be released with final breaking changes before updating client, server and mods
12:54 Megaf started building both at the same time, lets see who finishes first
12:54 Megaf tenplus1, yep, I was kinda scared why I joined my server yesterday with a 0.5 client
12:54 tenplus1 I tried once and fell through the floor
12:54 tenplus1 the new player model makes it near impossible to play or use armor mod etc
12:54 tenplus1 I did however fix invisibility mod so it works tho
12:54 twoelk did the server complain?
12:55 tenplus1 server didnt complain, but not fitting through doorways or being half into the floor or falling through solid areas is very annoying
12:55 tenplus1 so when 0.5.0 is released I will urge all players to update and lock server to that version
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12:55 tenplus1 hi lisac
12:55 lisac Hi 11
12:56 Megaf <ACTION> 2017-08-09 16:41:49: [Server] Megaf [37.228.231.131] joins game.
12:56 Megaf <ACTION> 2017-08-09 16:41:49: [Server] Megaf joins game. List of players: Megaf
12:56 Megaf twoelk, server side was all ok
12:56 twoelk sometimes I wonder wether one of them mobile mt clones might not be the source of crashes
12:58 tenplus1 we thought that as well on Xanadu... at times it crashes for no reason, no error and notice that players connect with many bogus clients that prolly dont support newer features
12:58 Megaf hm
12:59 Megaf That's one of the reasons I stopped updating my server
12:59 twoelk does the server actually reject data if it is inconclusive?
12:59 Megaf I find a version that works, and mods that work and stay there
12:59 tenplus1 so when 0.5.0 is released server will be updated and locked so players must use same release, also all my mods will be updated to 0.5.0 functions
13:01 nerzhul tenplus1, sounds reasonable
13:02 tenplus1 hi nrz...   plus 0.5.0 is a good half-way mark to final release :) a good new default that will hopefully make it into google store and repos
13:02 Megaf tenplus1, Im doing the same, but first I will have to update to the latest 0.4
13:02 tenplus1 so anything that will be broken, may as well go the whole hog and insert/change what makes it all better
13:03 tenplus1 Megaf: the last goot 0.4.16-dev release was on 19th july...  after that the player model changed and things dont work
13:03 Megaf tenplus1, I hope we have all updates prior breakage applied to stable-0.4
13:04 tenplus1 <fingers crossed>
13:04 tenplus1 splitting the player into it's own mod is a good thing tho for next release, gives us more control
13:04 Megaf tenplus1, one thing that Im seriously thinking about doing is having my own builds that I will give to my players so they can play on my server
13:05 tenplus1 just wish as I mentioned earlier we had a  player:set_velocity()  command... that would be sooooo handy
13:05 Megaf other thing that just came to me is having to server in paralel, one 0.4 and one 0.5, so clients and choose the one they want
13:05 tenplus1 if your server is built using a specific build then yes, post it on forum and ask players to use for 1005 compatibility
13:05 tenplus1 100%
13:10 tenplus1 which is why I'm hoping for an all point release when 0.5 is finally out :)
13:13 Megaf whats the clear objects quick command?
13:13 tenplus1 /clearobejcts quick
13:13 Megaf thanks
13:13 tenplus1 minus typo :P
13:13 Megaf any other variants of it?
13:14 Megaf /clearobjects is the full thing
13:14 tenplus1 and adding the quick after only does loaded areas of map
13:14 Megaf and I accidentally just ran the full thing
13:14 Megaf oh, well, I dont believe there's any loaded map right nowq
13:14 Megaf since I stopped playing on my own server it seems like my old players stopped too
13:15 Megaf we do get a lot of new players everyday, but most are on mobile, so I dont even bother
13:15 tenplus1 I drop by server each day even for a few moments to make sure I dont have any dropbox mail reg. issues/bugs etc
13:16 Megaf and about the building of 0.4 against 0.5, it things going mostly at the same time both, down to the file it is compiling
13:17 Megaf 0.5 seems to be going slitly faster now
13:17 Megaf thats good
13:22 tenplus1 yup, latest TNT pull helps lessen server lag :)
13:22 tenplus1 exploded 1000 times and finihes quicker :P
13:24 Megaf lol
13:24 twoelk 1000 times? anything left of the area?
13:26 tenplus1 ehehe, not really...
13:26 tenplus1 but it was faster not having to remove tnt:boom each explosion
13:26 twoelk that sounds like a lot of objects lingering around
13:30 tenplus1 thankfully I added to the lossy list, so stone types and sand etc get blown up but my builtin_item mod merges the items instead of dropping seperately :D
13:32 twoelk I wonder wether an explosion with a convincing crater rim of blasted material might be possible
13:33 twoelk maybe some sort of mudflow algorithm
13:34 tenplus1 I like the idea of mudlow...
13:36 tenplus1 tnt mod also calculates (bu using getnode) where dropped items sit instead of simply dropping them, that will add to lag as well
13:39 twoelk couldn't falling items simply become nodes once they stop moving and they are not on a border to unloaded chunks?
13:40 twoelk they might not need to know what they land on, just once collision is confirmed transform to node
13:44 tenplus1 some of the sand nodes when falling are thrown outwards to fall and become nodes again
13:45 tenplus1 but most are destroyed and dropped as items
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13:47 tenplus1 wb lisac
13:49 ThomasMonroe_ hey lisac, fixed your plugin yet?
13:50 lisac Nope
13:50 lisac Hi ThomasMonroe_
14:08 benrob0329 Hello tenplus1, lisac, and ThomasMonroe_
14:08 tenplus1 hi ben
14:10 lisac Hi benrob0329
14:11 Calinou afternoon
14:11 ThomasMonroe_ hey benrob0329
14:13 benrob0329 Hi Calinou
14:14 tenplus1 o/
14:16 benrob0329 This channel: 50% Hi, 40% Offtopic, and 10% Minetest.
14:18 Krock hi benrob0329
14:18 ThomasMonroe_ that sounds about right benrob
14:18 tenplus1 ehehe
14:23 CalebDavis XD
14:25 * twoelk waits for benrob0329 to start talking minetest
14:25 benrob0329 Minetest, minetest minetest. Mine test? Testing the mine, in minetest.
14:26 tenplus1 :P
14:26 benrob0329 Mods for mods sake in minetest. Mods modding their modded selves. Minetest mods, mod.
14:27 * twoelk wonders how much that might have raised the percentage
14:27 ThomasMonroe_ 11%
14:27 ThomasMonroe_ 39% offtopic
14:28 twoelk <mods> sounds similar to <motz> in german which can be translated as ranting
14:28 tenplus1 mods definitely cause a lot of that :P
14:29 benrob0329 wouldn't it be 49.5% Hi, 39.5% Offtopic, and 11% Minetest?
14:29 twoelk another use is for pimping something up which might fit as well - you choose :-P
14:53 CalebDavis i am regestering a decoration for a subgame of mine and i only have 4 biomes in the world but it is showing up in all of them why?
14:54 CalebDavis i have the biomes = "icecrystal_forest" in the decoration definition
14:54 tenplus1 biomes = {"icecrystal_forest"},
14:54 CalebDavis that isnt working either
14:56 CalebDavis do i need more biomes for that to count?
14:56 tenplus1 hrm, should only appear in tjhat biome
14:57 CalebDavis but it appears anywhere there is ice
14:58 CalebDavis 2 of the biomes are ocean and unddergound so they arent getting mixed with the other 2
14:58 tenplus1 so long as its named, will paste example in pm
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15:23 tenplus1 wb raven
15:26 Raven262 thx tenplus1
15:26 Raven262 But i was here all the time
15:27 tenplus1 I nkow... but you left and came back again :PPPPPP
15:30 Raven262 Lost the connection, had to switch the modem off for a while
15:30 tenplus1 ow
15:37 tenplus1 apart from line 178 being commented out it seems ok
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15:54 tenplus1 hi DI3HARD139, wb lisac
15:54 DI3HARD139 Hello tenplus1
15:54 tenplus1 :P
15:54 CalebDavis hi Di3
15:54 ThomasMonroe_ hey Di3
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17:20 tenplus1 wb nrz
17:20 Fixer was fiddling with https://archive.org/details/78rpm, trying to restore in audacity some heavily damaged records just for fun, it does remove ton of noise
17:21 tenplus1 nice one :P
17:22 tenplus1 they were selling a record player with usb connection able to record them as mp3 in one of the local stores :D
17:32 tenplus1 Fixer:  did you work on a song or sound collection ?
17:33 Fixer song
17:33 tenplus1 anything good ?
17:34 Fixer i've recognised some classics yes
17:35 Fixer tenplus1: just wanted to test noise reduction
17:35 tenplus1 havent tinkered with audacity in a long time :)
17:42 tenplus1 :P
17:42 tenplus1 least it wasnt Knitler
17:43 lisac tenplus1, it's from an old serbian tv series
17:43 tenplus1 ooh, googling
17:43 lisac TL;DR: The main character calls hackers 'Haklers'
17:44 tenplus1 lol
17:44 lisac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQSyoIuUJMs
17:45 tenplus1 wow, monobrow :p
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18:00 tenplus1 hi ssieb
18:00 ssieb hi
18:02 tenplus1 wb raven
18:02 Raven262 thx tenplus1
18:07 sofar rubenwardy: not sure why I'm even responding to linuxdirk anymore
18:07 tenplus1 hi sofar
18:07 sofar person toxic to community -> ignore
18:07 tenplus1 erk
18:08 sofar hi $yourself
18:08 tenplus1 :P
18:10 Shara Hi everyone
18:10 tenplus1 hi Shara o/
18:12 benrob0329 hi sofar, Shara
18:13 tenplus1 wb ben
18:13 Shara :)
18:13 benrob0329 i never left :PP
18:13 tenplus1 yes, but you were quiet :D ehe
18:15 tenplus1 if you want a giggle here's mc copying mario kart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIIC30w4OPA
18:27 Raven262 Hi Shara
18:27 Shara Hello Raven
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18:30 Megaf tenplus1, I joined Xanadu with 0.4 and 05
18:30 Megaf both had same FPS
18:30 tenplus1 kewl
18:31 Bobr2 hi
18:31 tenplus1 ho bob
18:31 tenplus1 *hi
18:31 Megaf ok, my server is back
18:34 tenplus1 running 0.46?
18:39 benrob0329 tenplus1: 46? Have you come from the future, and if so, what is it like?
18:39 tenplus1 lol ben
18:44 Raven262 Its so close to 0.5, so whichever future it is, it is a very bad one.
18:44 Raven262 Since they didn't reach 0.5 yet.
18:44 benrob0329 Raven262: 0.46 would be...45 releases past 0.5
18:45 benrob0329 wait
18:45 benrob0329 no, 41
18:45 Raven262 :P
18:45 Raven262 0.5 as in 0.50
18:45 Raven262 but there is no need for that additional 0
18:45 benrob0329 the additional 0 indicated a place value change
18:46 Raven262 it is behind the ","
18:46 Raven262 okay, .
18:46 Raven262 not ,
18:46 Raven262 well anyways
18:47 Raven262 0.4.16 is the one right now,  0.5 is the next one, 0.46 would be some like 4 releases before 0.5?
18:49 benrob0329 Raven262: no, 0.46 would be the forty-sixth release of the 0.x line
18:49 Raven262 ah
18:49 Raven262 right
18:49 tenplus1 considering the big changes 0.5 is the next best...
18:49 tenplus1 half way point to 1.0 release :D hehe
18:49 benrob0329 lets hope half way :PP
18:50 tenplus1 it's come a long way ;)
18:50 CWz nope
18:50 benrob0329 CWz: ?
18:50 CWz we will have build 0.63.27
18:50 benrob0329 someday MT will hit beta
18:50 benrob0329 someday
18:51 CWz aren't we in beta now?
18:51 benrob0329 heck no
18:51 tenplus1 nope, still alpha (development)
18:51 benrob0329 we still change things way too often for beta
18:51 benrob0329 but its a crappy alpha, because we can't change everything
18:52 tenplus1 hopefully from 0.5 we'll stop deprecating functions so we'll have a bit of stability from then on... adding features on the other hand is fine :D
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19:01 tenplus1 wb nchambers
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19:03 tenplus1 wbthomas
19:03 ThomasMonroe thx
19:19 Fixer fuck viber
19:19 tenplus1 another crappy video site /
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19:36 tenplus1 nite folks... o/
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20:07 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxwQMvsuHtM geforce 3 history, that was a huuuuge deal back in the day, it was so exciting to me back then
20:09 Krock Riva TNT, the only real graphics card!
20:11 Fixer Krock: seen it, played it
20:12 Fixer Nvidia GeForce 3 driver support: from Windows 95 to Windows XP, now thats insanely badass
20:12 Fixer thats like close to 20 years
20:13 Fixer and you wonder why XP was so hugely popular
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20:44 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/4sOk5Gf.jpg testing ground
21:07 Krock Fixer, is that the legendary stairway to heaven?
21:07 Fixer Krock: not really
21:07 Krock actually three of them
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