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09:34 shivajiva hi Zeno :)
09:34 Zeno` howdy
09:34 Zeno` how's things?
09:42 nerzhul hi Zeno`
09:43 Zeno` howdy nerzhul :D
10:02 Shara Morning all
10:27 Krock hi Zeno`
10:27 Krock and morning Shara
10:41 shivajiva Morning folks
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11:01 IhrFussel What's the conf setting to enable mod profiling again?
11:01 Krock profiling.enable or something like that
11:01 Krock profiler.load = true
11:02 IhrFussel I have the feeling on_joinplayer() lags my whole server for 2-3 secs even though I don't do anything intensive..I simply check a file's content, do some simple math on that value and write a new value back to a file
11:03 IhrFussel Okay thanks and the profiler file can then be found where again?
11:06 Krock in your world
11:06 Krock perhaps there's a directory in between the worlds' directory and the profile-????.??? file
11:09 IhrFussel Krock, and I should only run the server with profiler for 5-10 minutes right?
11:10 IhrFussel Someone told me if it runs for too long the results could be misleading
11:11 Krock huh? results are misleading when it runs too short
11:13 IhrFussel OK then...would an hour be enough?
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11:48 IhrFussel Wow my server needs 3-4 secs to generate new map parts which increases the max_lag value a lot
11:49 Krock ah hour is defeinitely enough
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11:52 IhrFussel I only use 4 mods with minetest.register_on_generated() callbacks...I didn't think those would increase the generating time THAT much
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11:59 * lisac is now playing Bleak (Blackwater Park) by Opeth [1:41/9:16] [Playing]
12:01 IhrFussel Krock, I added profiler.load = true in the conf but I cannot find the file
12:02 Shara Fussel: Do you still have that issue where some doors don't respect protection?
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12:07 IhrFussel Shara, Yes... OMG I forgot that I have to use commands to actually SAVE the profile
12:07 Shara Fussel: I'm working on fixing it for RC right now, so could probably help you with that if you want
12:16 Calinou hi!
12:16 Shara Hi Calinou
12:19 Shara Yay... now I think every single item on RC respects protection correctly.
12:20 Shara Should have done that forever ago.
12:27 IhrFussel So if generating map takes a few secs but the mod profiler only shows very small values in "on_generated" does that mean the generation problem is coreside?
12:27 * lisac is now playing Welcome to Dying (Live) by Blind Guardian [5:18/5:28] [Playing]
12:28 * lisac is now playing One Thought (Character) by Dark Tranquility [0:01/4:07] [Playing]
12:29 Fixer IhrFussel: you need to do /profile save
12:29 Fixer or like that
12:31 IhrFussel Fixer, I know I'm doing /profiler dump every few minutes right now
12:32 IhrFussel But generating map takes up to 3 secs even though the profiler only shows very small values for "on_generated"
12:36 * lisac is now playing Winter Madness (Wintersun) by Wintersun [0:04/5:08] [Playing]
12:49 Wayward_One hi all :)
12:49 Raven262 Hi Wayward_One
12:51 Raven262 This channel: 50% - Not Minetest 25% - "Hi" 12% - "Lisac is now playing" 12% - Minetest 1% - Someone has joined/left
12:52 * lisac is now playing Windowpane (Damnation) by Opeth [0:02/7:45] [Playing]
12:52 lisac :O
12:52 lisac well I gotta show off my new script
13:01 Krock ho Wayward_One, Raven262
13:02 Raven262 Hi Krock
13:02 Wayward_One hello Krock
13:03 * lisac is now playing Harlequin Forest (Ghost Reveries) by Opeth [3:14/11:39] [Playing] [played 3 times]
13:03 Raven262 ^
13:03 lisac Hi Wayward_One, Krock
13:03 Raven262 make that 15%
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13:14 Raven262 Add telescope for zoom, add map item for minimap. Well, I wanna see how this will end up.
13:14 Raven262 Guess next one is Add wings for flying and add boots for running (MTG)
13:15 Krock and sword for suicide. you know the feature behinf
13:15 Krock *behind
13:15 Krock no. not /respawn. it's noclip.
13:15 rdococ Does a Luacontroller's mem table support unbounded (but not infinite, of course) table nesting?
13:16 rdococ I've heard it only supports two levels - which is kinda bad.
13:16 Raven262 +1 To sword for suicide
13:18 Calinou there should be a sword like TF2's Boston Basher in Minetest
13:19 Calinou "Hit: bleed for 5 seconds"
13:19 Calinou "Miss: Hit yourself. Idiot."
13:19 Shara I made a cursed sword that causes damage to the player a while back.
13:20 Shara Haven't finished the mod yet though, because textures = guh.
13:20 lisac Calinou, Raven262 and me always pick scouts with bashers on hightower
13:20 lisac and Bonk
13:20 lisac + FaN
13:20 Raven262 Calinou, I wanted to make that!
13:20 lisac just run around, if you are close to killing yourself, take bonk
13:21 Raven262 Btw, boston basher is for f2p's get three rune blade xD
13:22 rdococ I tested, and it DOES support more than 2 levels
13:24 Fixer Calinou: useless, MTG does not render tools/weapons in hands in XXI century
13:26 jas_ if furnaces can use animated textures, why not wielditems?
13:27 Calinou lisac, Raven262: I play TF2 too :D
13:27 Raven262 You do, Calinou?
13:27 Calinou not as much as before, but I still do occasionally
13:27 Calinou yeah
13:27 Raven262 Wow
13:27 Calinou you can add me on Steam if you want
13:27 Raven262 Lisac, we found a new teammate
13:27 Calinou (it's YouriLigotme)
13:27 Raven262 :D
13:27 Raven262 You have full account?
13:27 Calinou no, only F2P, but I can buy a cheap thing to get a full one
13:28 Raven262 I don't have a full one either
13:28 lisac I do
13:28 Calinou I bought games on Steam so I can add people, though
13:28 lisac :P
13:28 Raven262 I got tf2 full account from a friend so i'm partially unlocked
13:28 lisac adding you, comrade
13:28 Raven262 Oh, nice
13:28 Raven262 wait, add me :D
13:28 Calinou what's your Steam ID?
13:28 nerzhul this code modernization is crazy, hopefully i'm helped with a good tool which doesn't the major part for me :D
13:28 Raven262 moment though, gonna link you the profile
13:29 lisac lisacvuk
13:29 lisac oh, his.
13:29 lisac right
13:29 Calinou who sent me the invite? :P
13:30 Raven262 http://steamcommunity.com/p​rofiles/76561198295594147/ <-- My profile
13:30 jas_ oh that reminds me to update
13:30 Raven262 Don't pay too much attention to nod stuff everywhere
13:31 lisac Calinou, I did
13:31 Calinou hmm, I thought you could enter an ID in the "add friend" dialog, apparently you can't
13:31 Calinou (the number, that is)
13:32 Calinou thankfully, searching your nickname gives you as the first result
13:32 Calinou but that's not the case of everyone :P
13:32 Raven262 :D
13:32 Raven262 It was Corvus last time, and people had trouble finding me
13:32 Pingus I also sent friend request to Elon Musk
13:32 Pingus accidentally found his profile
13:33 Pingus He still hasn't accepted :(
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14:07 IhrFussel Can a core dev tell me how much fast get_atrribute() is compared to io.open()?
14:07 IhrFussel faster*
14:19 Krock depends how efficient io.open / io.read is used
14:19 Krock and whether you use LuaJIT or not
14:20 Krock but nobody knows. test it.
14:33 IhrFussel Krock, the mod profiler says register_on_protection_violation() in a mod takes 700,000(!!) on AVERAGE to complete even though all I do is checking if player has interact and if yes I read an attribute, multiply that attr and set it
14:34 IhrFussel Oh and I take interact too but that doesn't seem heavy to me
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14:59 IhrFussel Do entities trigger register_on_protection_violation() ?
15:01 Pingus IhrFussel, I'm not sure. You should probably have a check inside just in case player is il
15:01 Pingus *nil
15:04 IhrFussel I'm asking cause I don't see how this can take 500,000+ µs on AVERAGE https://pastebin.com/nEpnPzMG
15:04 Krock oh my gosh! these poor tabulators. What have you done?
15:04 Krock they're all gone.
15:05 Krock also, "set_player_privs" could be the cause for this, as it triggers an instant auth.txt save
15:08 IhrFussel Krock, which means the engine re-writes the auth.txt whenever privs are set?
15:11 IhrFussel Well my auth.txt has ~ 75,000 lines so that could indeed take quite a few ms to write...
15:26 Fixer iirc, auth.txt will be in database soon, ask nerzhul
15:26 Fixer i wonder if it offers better results
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15:33 benrob0329 Hello
15:38 Krock hi benrob0329
15:38 benrob0329 Whts up?
15:38 benrob0329 *what
15:39 Krock oh.. nothing special
15:59 Calinou my RAM is ready: https://lut.im/2gIiQl7ulV/qYhmMKV8PVnW3WrF.png
16:00 Calinou (many VMs, Xonotic with uncompressed textures running in the background, and WebStorm running)
16:01 rubenwardy > 32GB
16:01 rubenwardy wow
16:01 IhrFussel Does minetest.get_player_privs() read from memory or file?
16:01 rubenwardy also, as a student you can get Intellij Ultimate which is > WebStorm
16:01 rubenwardy well, at least  Utimate > PHPStorm
16:01 rubenwardy I've never used websotrm
16:02 rubenwardy CLion > Ultimate however :(
16:06 rubenwardy Raven262, http://steamcommunity.com/groups/minetestc55
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16:29 Fixer not bad
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17:04 Calinou rubenwardy: I have all the JetBrains IDEs installed :P
17:04 Calinou I just use the one most suited to the task
17:04 Calinou PhpStorm can match WebStorm functionality by installing some add-ons, I know
17:04 Calinou but since I'm not doing anything PHP-related right now…
17:04 rubenwardy heh
17:04 lisac Calinou, up for some TF2?
17:08 rubenwardy Calinou, I use ultimate for PHP and front end when doing symfony. I don't really see the point of installing a whole IDE to do something you can already do no better
17:09 Calinou rubenwardy: you can mostly match PhpStorm functionality with IntelliJ Ultimate, yeah
17:09 Calinou but PhpStorm is already set up, out of the box :)
17:09 Calinou (and I don't do Java, anyway)
17:09 rubenwardy I've never used IJU for Java
17:09 rubenwardy you know it's all the same IDE +/- plugins?
17:09 Calinou I have Android Studio installed as well, but only to manage the SDK
17:09 Calinou (and AVDs)
17:09 rubenwardy IJU just allows you to modify the plugins the most
17:10 Calinou because the CLI (the only interface available without Android Studio now, since they removed the old GUI) sucks
17:10 Calinou I tried it, and gave up
17:10 rubenwardy Android Studio is pretty good though
17:13 Calinou I never used the actual IDE :P
17:14 Calinou just like Visual Studio; I install it mostly for the C++ tools
17:14 Calinou (I know you can download just the C++ tools now, yeah)
17:14 rubenwardy heh
17:14 rubenwardy that's sounds painful
17:14 rubenwardy not using AS
17:14 rubenwardy AS has tools like the vector icon importer, and the layout creator
17:16 Calinou I'm not interested in native mobile app development anyway
17:16 Calinou I keep eyeing things like http://ionicframework.com/ and it's shaping to be quite good
17:16 Calinou (performance-wise, it is correct on high-end devices, from my tests)
17:17 Calinou (startup time is 2-2.5 seconds on my S7 edge, for the demo app)
17:17 rubenwardy Ew :P
17:17 Calinou (long, but acceptable)
17:17 Calinou there's also https://www.nativescript.org/ (no WebViews used, but still uses JavaScript)
17:17 Calinou it's a poor man's React Native, apparently :P
17:19 Calinou lisac: I'm a bit tired but I'll join anyway, I guess
17:19 lisac :) thanks
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18:27 rubenwardy Just bought a VPN: https://i.rubenwardy.com/cjvA3DbkNS.png
18:27 rubenwardy well, a months' access
18:27 Calinou nice
18:27 Calinou I still have ADSL here, so I never go above 12 Mb/s download :P
18:28 rubenwardy I get 200Mbps usually
18:28 rubenwardy I'm surprised I'd get that much on a VPN
18:30 Krock I get 8Mbps usually
18:31 Calinou lisac, Raven262: I like how we were the top 3 of the team, too :D
18:31 Calinou in the TF2 game
18:31 lisac :D
18:35 Fixer Calinou: adsl, 0,2 Mb/s
18:35 Fixer ._.
18:37 Fixer Calinou: mbit or mbyte?
18:37 Fixer 12 Mb/sec seems like too good for adsl
18:40 Calinou 12 Mb/s down, 1 Mb/s up
18:40 Calinou the maximum you can get with ADSL2+ is ~20 Mb/s down, 2 Mb/s up
18:40 Calinou but you need to be very close to the "central"
18:41 Calinou with VDSL2 (you need to be less than 1 km away from the central), you can get 50 Mb/s down, 5 Mb/s up or so
18:41 Calinou my brother has VDSL2
18:42 lisac Calinou, me and Raven are always 1st and second in a team
18:42 lisac unless there is a real good player there too
18:43 Calinou I'm sometimes 1st
18:43 Calinou playing medic or something helps
18:43 Calinou since you get lots of assists :P
18:43 lisac I once played a competitive game
18:44 lisac before there was competitive matchmaking
18:44 lisac on TF2center
18:45 Fixer Calinou: not bad
18:45 lisac Calinou, http://imgur.com/cbQvh2E
18:45 Fixer i have top dl speeds like 20 mbit at most
18:45 lisac what do you think?
18:45 lisac about my new character levels mod ui
18:48 Calinou hmm
18:49 Calinou try using images to make progress bars or something?
18:49 Calinou perhaps use colored text in some places (when it makes sense)
18:52 lisac I probably will
18:52 lisac it's just a placeholder
19:06 IhrFussel Is setting default_privs = LIST in minetest.conf any different from set_player_privs on_joinplayer()?
19:07 Krock yes.
19:07 Krock default_privs is only for new players, while on_joinplayer.. is self-explanatory
19:07 lisac default_privs are being taken here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/​blob/c91a8c7061c83a33cca929859ea811af​b985ac0a/builtin/game/auth.lua#L103
19:07 lisac basically set for every player that joined after the change
19:07 lisac so if a player joins before a priv is added to default privs, he doesn't get the priv.
19:08 Krock this déjà vu moment I've just got..
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19:19 tenplus1 hi folks
19:20 Krock hi tenplus1
19:20 tenplus1 o/ Krock :) hows u
19:20 lisac Hey tenplus1
19:20 Shara Hi tenplus1
19:20 tenplus1 hi Shara :P
19:20 * tenplus1 is ordering indian for noms, who wants :))
19:21 Krock I'm fine, thanks :)
19:21 tenplus1 :P
19:22 Shara Me please :P
19:23 tenplus1 ehehe, am getting half n half ceylonese chicken korma with fried rice and chapati :PPPP mmm
19:25 lisac tenplus1, can we get a report on the current state of Xanadu? :)
19:25 tenplus1 xanadu is up and active, new router working a-ok
19:25 lisac :O
19:25 lisac Raven262!
19:27 lisac tenplus1, I've got an idea for an improvement to mobs_redo
19:27 lisac right now I can only see their HP while they are taking damage
19:27 lisac why not make it as long as they are inside a radius of the player?
19:28 IhrFussel lisac, Krock yes but I was interested in performance differences
19:28 IhrFussel Is default_privs faster / needs less calls?
19:28 tenplus1 hi fussel...
19:29 IhrFussel Hello there tenplus1 =)
19:29 lisac IhrFussel, I guess on_join_player will be called on every join
19:29 lisac while the default_privs thingy will be called only for new players
19:29 lisac so yes, default_privs might lag less
19:29 lisac Slightly less
19:30 IhrFussel That wouldn't be the problem cause I also only call set_player_privs when the player appears to be new...but I heard EACH set_player_privs() REWRITES the entire auth.txt
19:30 lisac wow really?
19:30 IhrFussel So I wonder if I save a set_player_privs when I do it via conf
19:30 lisac that seems awfully inefficient
19:31 Krock IhrFussel, no. the same privilege question. Perhaps a year ago or something
19:31 Krock *shrug*
19:33 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/b​lob/master/builtin/game/auth.lua#L120
19:33 Krock can confirm that it saves for each set_player_privs
19:33 Krock see save_auth_file() call
19:34 lisac Hey any idea how to change a label on the formspec?
19:34 lisac without redisplaying the whole formspec?
19:34 lisac or to quote my fav alien people, 'Is that even possible?'
19:35 Krock redisplay it
19:35 lisac y that seems to stop working after a few quick presses
19:36 Krock because you've got a bug there
19:36 Krock or a packet was lost
19:36 tenplus1 Krock:  when rebasing a pull do I just remove the lines that I DONT want /#
19:36 IhrFussel Krock, so default_privs is faster than set_player_privs() on_joinplayer() cause it only needs to save the auth once there
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19:37 tenplus1 hi CWz
19:37 lisac aah I need to ordinary button not exit one
19:37 Krock tenplus1, are you talking about solving conflicts?
19:38 lisac *the
19:38 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/min​etest_game/pull/1844/conflicts
19:38 CWz Something started bugging while i was walking the dog. i'd lie to suggest that for 0.5 and beyond we replace the term mods with addons
19:38 Krock yes, remove the weird looking part and add the code you want there
19:39 tenplus1 do I also remove the linex with <<<<< patch   and  >>>>>> master ?
19:39 Krock i.e. also remove <<<< >>>> and ====, which mark the confict position
19:39 tenplus1 heh, thx :DD
19:40 CWz hmm, my suggestion is so lame it was like i become a ghost
19:41 CWz Great time for some pranks
19:41 Krock np. It would be way more comfortable to edit this locally in your favourite editor but should also work as expected in the online editor
19:41 Krock IhrFussel, yes but keep in mind that once you change the default_privs, all old players won't be updated
19:42 Krock so, only set the auth when it's really neccessary
19:43 tenplus1 k, changes added to git <fingers crossed>
19:43 IhrFussel Krock, that is no issue cause I simply want them to have interact,shout and home...nothing I'd want to revoke later again
19:44 Krock IhrFussel, until you set up a jail mod which temporary removes the interact priv
19:46 IhrFussel That won't happen^^ And even if I need it there is always Bash
19:47 * tenplus1 adds a 'miss can I go to the toilet' priv :P
19:48 Fixer give me 1 dirt block please
19:48 Krock give me -1 cobble please
19:48 tenplus1 hi fixer
19:48 Fixer ohi
19:49 Fixer mom
19:49 Krock dad
19:49 * tenplus1 revokes Fixer's wifi privs
19:49 Fixer can you be my sister?
19:50 Shara /revoke Fixer shout???
19:50 * CWz places whoopy baloons on the seats
19:51 tenplus1 ehehe...  Xanadu is up and active with latest updates to mobs, farming, abriglass and more
19:52 Shara You my torch mod, or you wanted glass as well now? :P
19:52 Shara You mean my*
19:53 tenplus1 I added lucky blocks to abriglass :D
19:53 tenplus1 abritorches even
19:53 tenplus1 oops
19:54 Shara hehehe
19:54 Shara Feel free to make a PR if you want something added to the mod itself
19:56 Shara Seems someone is making russian versions of my mods...
19:56 tenplus1 w00t... am getting language updates as well (rus, ita, pr)
19:57 Shara problem is they are just doing them in forks rather than making a PR to add them properly
19:57 Shara Or they did send one PR< but that would have replaced the english version outright...
19:57 tenplus1 ooh, who's doing yours ?  am getting pulls ?
19:57 Shara inpos... no idea who he is
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19:58 Shara Doesn't seem interested in working on something I can integrate directly with the mods though
19:58 tenplus1 to be fair I add pulls manually so I know exactly what's changed
19:59 Shara He's done it with a couple of yours too
19:59 * tenplus1 likes getting pulls with new stuff :D
19:59 bigfoot547 Hey all
20:00 tenplus1 hibigfoot
20:00 Shara Hi bigfoot547
20:00 bigfoot547 Hey Shara and tenplus1 :)
20:01 tenplus1 http://staginglol.gemnnwclth7mfvu.maxc​dn-edge.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08​/6ee9795b1b5e16a86ab25685158baa1a.jpg
20:12 Fixer i see a surge of nicknames like BlahBlahYT...
20:14 Krock brb reserving KrockYT
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20:18 tenplus1 hi paramat, hi nrz
20:20 * tenplus1 has to go lay down after that meal... ehehe...
20:20 tenplus1 nite all
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20:22 Fixer lol
20:23 Fixer that lay down after meal vive
20:23 Fixer vibe*
20:25 Fixer nrz is on fire
20:26 rdococ ...
20:28 bigfoot547 Fixer: ???
20:28 bigfoot547 Oh
20:28 bigfoot547 All the commits lol
20:28 bigfoot547 yeah
20:31 Fixer MT needs this badly: https://i.imgur.com/ybSmjQs.png
20:31 Fixer text on signs
20:34 rdococ there are MT mods which already have that
20:35 Fixer yes
20:35 lisac Fixer, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13762
20:36 lisac Also, what do you think about my mod so far? https://youtu.be/g3S6Fvv7dsg
20:36 Fixer lisac: mtg needs simpler version of it
20:36 lisac the impact per point will be smaller in release, ofc
20:36 lisac Ic, Fixer.
20:36 lisac How does it work? Entities?
20:37 Fixer lisac: will be handy for some RPG subgames or smth
20:37 lisac yeah, same as my toolranks mod :P
20:38 lisac gotta make a complete subgame with RPG elements like this
20:38 lisac sorry for potato video quality, too
20:38 lisac I hate uploading huge videos
20:45 lisac hey how do I change player max hp?
20:50 Krock you don't/can't (yet)
20:51 lisac :O
20:52 lisac http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
20:52 bigfoot547 :O
20:52 bigfoot547 Nooooooooo
20:57 nerzhul Krock, i think it's a PR for you  ? :p
21:01 Krock nerzhul, because it'll be trivial? xD
21:02 Krock however, noted.
21:02 Shara I was actually starting to look at changing max hp just a couple of days back
21:02 Shara Because I really, really want it fo rth emod I'm working on
21:02 Shara for the*
21:02 lisac Shara, It's one of those features you'd expect should already be there
21:03 lisac along with disabled backface culling for coulds
21:03 lisac *clouds
21:03 nerzhul breath and hp are defines now
21:03 Shara yea, I found the code
21:03 nerzhul the first step can be to change that to use a setting instead and send the setting to client
21:03 Hijiri "text"ures shouldn't require hacking about with entities
21:03 Shara There were even comments about them needing to change or something
21:03 Shara Don't have it in front of me right now
21:03 Krock use a setting? sorry? that belongs into the player object
21:03 nerzhul setting for the max
21:03 Krock modders will prefer to make it per-player
21:04 nerzhul oh
21:04 Shara I want it so I can have equipable items that adjust it
21:04 nerzhul Krock, it's more difficult then
21:04 nerzhul the max sync is important
21:04 Krock not too much. just a player data more to save in the database
21:04 nerzhul yes ofc
21:04 nerzhul add a column with it
21:05 nerzhul and a PlayerSAO attribute
21:05 Krock and Lua table boundaries
21:05 nerzhul the problem is the genericCAO
21:05 nerzhul player:set_max_hp(aà
21:05 nerzhul a)
21:05 Krock àhà
21:06 * Shara quietly crosses that off the list of things to work on
21:07 bigfoot547 àààchoooooo!
21:07 * Krock :take("beds:bed 1") Krock:sleep()
21:08 Shara Just don't want to spend time working on a PR if someone else is going to do it now.
21:09 Shara And now I have no idea if someone is or not
21:09 nerzhul just define who work on it and coordinate efforts
21:09 nerzhul it's not so simple there is a network sync to client to do
21:09 nerzhul + player database support
21:10 Shara nerzhul: it'll be much quicker if a dev takes it :)
21:18 paramat (devs hide)
21:21 Shara Hi paramat :P
21:24 paramat hehe
21:26 nerzhul paramat, i like the unnamed, but i would prefer if it's shown in the textbox instead of being setted with empty formspec field, do you think you can fix that ?
21:26 Shara Maybe I'll look at the hp thing more anyway.
21:32 paramat nerz for empty world name? i'm not good with formspec so maybe best someone else does it
22:06 lisac nerzhul, I was told to make the textbox empty
22:06 lisac it was like that before.
22:07 nerzhul it's not very natural to send a form and then, a world name appears :p
22:08 lisac https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/pull/6257#issuecomment-322998634
22:08 paramat it's fine, seed acts like that too
22:08 lisac I don't know... it is mostly a dev-only feature
22:09 lisac not to be used by players
22:09 paramat players use the empty seed feature a lot i suspect
22:10 paramat if a field is going to be left empty on world creation, best it is actually empty instead of pre-filled with some generated seed or world name
22:10 nerzhul paramat, oh we can set the seed field empty ? i didn't know that
22:10 nerzhul each time i enter a new seed because i see previous seed
22:10 nerzhul (yes it's not natural :p)
22:11 nerzhul i should go, see you
22:11 paramat nerz yeah
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23:19 Fixer amibian
23:19 Fixer lol

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