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02:04 bigfoot547 How profound Aerozoic
02:05 CalebDavis hi bigfoot
02:05 bigfoot547 hey CalebDavis
02:11 * paramat is now set up at Patreon https://www.patreon.com/paramat
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03:30 rdococ hi
03:30 rdococ does patreon have a patreon page?
04:41 rdococ on april fools, vectors should have a 'mootness' property. if you set it to true, it becomes a moot point. :P
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05:53 rdococ hi
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07:41 tenplus1 hi folks
07:46 rdococ hi eleven
07:46 lisac hey tenplus1
07:46 tenplus1 hi rdococ
07:47 rdococ onfg
07:47 rdococ do people not know what tenplus1 evaluates to
07:47 tenplus1 :P
07:47 rdococ it evaluates to [ERROR: Cannot perform arithmetic with undefined variable]
07:47 tenplus1 only bots have issue with fuzzy logic...  we can tell the bots amongst us now :D
07:48 rdococ who are the bots?
07:48 tenplus1 we shall see :P
07:48 * rdococ crashes
07:48 * rdococ has stopped working. Please send all of your personal data and money to Microsoft.
07:49 tenplus1 lol
07:50 * rdococ farts.
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07:58 tenplus1 wb raven
08:06 rdococ raven is a bird
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08:19 IhrFussel Hi guys...is swap_node() more efficient compared to remove_node() then set_node()?
08:20 tenplus1 swap_node is efficient in that it doesnt remove metadata
08:20 tenplus1 or run on_place or after_place functions
08:21 IhrFussel So it skips ALL node callbacks + metadata check?
08:21 tenplus1 yup, which is why it's faster to use... :)
08:21 tenplus1 also doesnt do timers
08:22 tenplus1 gotta set them manually after swap
08:22 IhrFussel Well in my case I got a playerlight players can enable which triggers a "following" node above their heads...currently it uses remove/set node
08:23 IhrFussel So swap_node() might speed it up
08:23 tenplus1 yeah it will...  I used the same method :P
08:24 tenplus1 faster but still laggy , especially on server
08:24 IhrFussel Well I don't update the node pos on every step...I check once every 1.5 secs ... should be enough
08:25 tenplus1 and only if pos is different?
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08:26 tenplus1 hi nrz
08:26 IhrFussel Yes every 1.5 secs I compare the current pso to the old one...if different I update the nodes
08:26 IhrFussel pos*
08:28 IhrFussel hi nerzhul ... thanks for coding the callback but since it's 0.5.0-dev it's not really useful right now for me
08:29 nerzhul hi IhrFussel
08:30 nerzhul hi tenplus1
08:30 IhrFussel tenplus1, is swap_node() still faster even if I just replce air?
08:30 tenplus1 yes
08:30 nerzhul yes i know, but it's not there, now you just need to have a release, also if you really need it, backport it to your 0.4.17 tree, it should be easy to cherry pick
08:39 rdococ hi
08:40 rdococ I ended up adding an on_swap callback in Lua so that I could monitor mesecon device state transitions.
08:51 rdococ I'm guessing nodetimerref:get_timeout() gets the number of seconds remaining
08:53 tenplus1 yeh
08:57 rdococ does get_elapsed() keep increasing after a timer ends?
09:00 tenplus1 if on_timer function returns nil it stops timer, if it returns true it restarts (I think)
09:01 rdococ does on_timer have access to the number of seconds the timer was set to?
09:02 tenplus1 http://dev.minetest.net/NodeTimerRef only these
09:05 rdococ well, I want the timer to restart, but at a different timeout
09:05 rdococ so I'm using :start()
09:05 tenplus1 yes
09:06 rdococ okay, good
09:06 rdococ I've got the delayer block to be able to delay multiple things at once
09:06 rdococ s/things/signals/
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09:22 tenplus1 wb raven
09:22 Raven262 thanks tenplus1
09:22 Raven262 And hi
09:23 Raven262 Gotta go to school in a few minutes though.
09:23 tenplus1 aw
09:23 Raven262 At least i installed GZDoom on my phone and copied the wads, gonna have some fun too :D
09:23 tenplus1 nice one :D
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09:36 rdococ hi eleven
09:37 tenplus1 o/
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09:40 tenplus1 back laters
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09:41 IhrFussel Is the last login timestamp in the auth file only used for the /last-login command?
09:42 IhrFussel If that's the case I can remove the updating since I use my own last login system
09:50 rdococ hi
10:09 rdococ does swap_node keep param2?
10:29 rdococ hi IhrFussel
10:30 rdococ I'm having trouble connecting to either of the two 0.5.0-dev servers.
10:32 IhrFussel Hi there rdococ ... are you using 0.4.16(-dev)?
10:33 rdococ no, I'm using 0.5.0-dev
10:33 rdococ I compiled 0.5.0 again, this time with -DRUN_IN_PLACE, so I can have both at once.
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10:34 rdococ Fiver!
10:34 rdococ Fixer*
10:35 rdococ nvm
10:35 rdococ I seem to be able to connect now
10:41 * rdococ hugs people
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10:44 Fixer hi
10:44 DS-minetest hi
10:48 rdococ hi
10:50 nerzhul hey Fixer , don't hesitate to tell me if the patch is okay for you in 8 hours
10:50 nerzhul if it's okay i push it to master
10:51 Fixer nerzhul: i did played with it for 2hrs30min on DCBL and had no crashes
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10:51 Fixer yesterday
10:51 rdococ yey
10:51 nerzhul nice, dcbl owner should apply it too
10:51 nerzhul but i'm pretty sure it fixes the problem, nice to see that
11:04 rdococ yay
11:04 rdococ nerzhul
11:08 IhrFussel Is this correct English? "You must NOT talk publicly or build about sex, politics, drugs or racism."
11:10 Megaf build about?
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11:10 Megaf what's the context?
11:10 Megaf al
11:10 Megaf Minetest
11:10 IhrFussel Build on the server
11:10 Megaf for a second I thought this was ##English
11:11 Megaf ##English a s channel about English,.. for people who want to improve their languange skill
11:11 IhrFussel Ok then I'll try there
11:11 Megaf IhrFussel, so, instead of or, use nor
11:11 Megaf then it will be ok
11:12 nerzhul IhrFussel, it's correct in EN-GB because they don't like to talk sex, if you are a nudist you can talk about sex :p
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11:19 IhrFussel nerzhul, haha =P ... ##English seems to be very slow compared to this channel even though there are 6x as many users
11:23 nerzhul due to the brexit they cannot join us
11:26 rdococ You must make sure to avoid communicating to fellow humans interacting with a program connected to this server, or using the aforementioned program to create geometric constructions relating or resembling the process of reproduction, the art of confusing people, substances which may modify your physical and/or mental state, or discerning people by race in a derogatory manner..
11:28 rdococ s/race/chemicals on or in the skin layer of humans that determine which frequencies of photons that the layer reflects, and how many are reflected/
11:28 rdococ (I mean, race isn't all about skin color, of course, but that is a part in it.)
11:38 rdococ YAY
11:40 IhrFussel One of my players is surprised that racism is not allowed
11:40 IhrFussel ...
11:40 rdococ ...
11:40 rdococ wait, seriously?
11:42 IhrFussel I don't think he's joking
11:43 rdococ I'm joining in a sec.
11:43 IhrFussel You know him^^
11:45 IhrFussel rdococ, Someone told me he made a nazi symbol in his base
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11:46 IhrFussel What's up with people and their nazi symbols...is it a running gag?
11:46 rdococ IhrFussel: who is it?
11:46 IhrFussel The one you're talking to right now
11:46 rdococ ?
11:46 rdococ I left
11:46 IhrFussel Starts with h
11:47 rdococ oh
11:49 IhrFussel rdococ, he doesn't seem to really *know* what it even means...I mean he's still young but kinda weird that no one explained to him yet
11:50 rdococ you mean hijenavuk?
11:52 IhrFussel Yes, I didn't want to call him out though
11:55 rdococ k
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12:18 tenplus1 hi folks
12:19 DS-minetest hi
12:19 tenplus1 hi DS
12:25 CalebDavis hi ten
12:25 tenplus1 hi Caleb
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12:26 tenplus1 o/ Fixer
12:37 cx384 hi tenplus1
12:38 tenplus1 hi cx384
12:38 rdococ hi eleven
12:38 rdococ hi cx384
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12:42 tenplus1 hi thomas
12:42 ThomasMonroe hi ten
12:43 rdococ Does worldedit have an "on_move" callback when a node is moved or copied or something?
12:43 tenplus1 nope
12:43 rdococ aw.
12:43 tenplus1 when moving/copying nodes it SHOULD copy metadata inside them as well
12:44 rdococ of course it does.......I think
12:44 tenplus1 although placing schematics has no callbacks active inside node
12:44 CalebDavis hi tre
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12:59 tenplus1 hi robbie
13:06 RobbieF hello, tenplus1, my friend. How was your weekend?
13:07 tenplus1 too quiet...
13:07 tenplus1 am about to catalogue all the hardware and pc bits I've found while tidying back room :P
13:08 tenplus1 hows you ?
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13:42 IhrFussel !tell tenplus1 Is there a way for Mobs Redo monsters to damage players attached to vehicles?
13:42 ShadowBot IhrFussel: O.K.
13:51 * rdococ accidentally superglues himself to a car
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14:35 nerzhul Fixer_, are you there ?
14:35 rdococ hihihi
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14:55 tenplus1 back
14:55 rdococ hi eleven
14:56 tenplus1 o/
14:56 tenplus1 finished cataloguing all my old HW... found some interesting items :D
14:57 rdococ HW?
14:57 tenplus1 old pc hardware
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15:04 tenplus1 hi srifqi
15:07 srifqi hi tenplus1
15:08 srifqi "/mnt/c/ubuntu/minetest/build/minetest​/src/client/clientlauncher.cpp:595:3: error: ‘mutex’ is not a member of ‘std’"
15:09 srifqi Uh, anybody?
15:09 srifqi (^_^")\
15:09 tenplus1 ??????
15:09 sfan5 no c++11 support?
15:09 srifqi "g++ (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) 5.4.0 20160609"
15:10 srifqi cross-compiling to Windows
15:12 sfan5 are you using cygwin? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3414834/gcc-st​dthread-not-found-in-namespace-std#answer-3417007
15:13 sfan5 if not just download the mingw toolchain used by the buildbot
15:13 IhrFussel tenplus1, did you see my question?
15:13 srifqi I run buildbot64.sh and got this error.
15:13 tenplus1 no, what was it ?
15:14 IhrFussel I did a !tell hm...I asked if it#s possible for monsters to NOT ignore players in vehicles
15:14 sfan5 srifqi: that's impossible, the buildbot has either used gcc 4.8.1 or 7.1.1
15:14 tenplus1 since the player is attached to the vehicle it makes a whole new entity, but monsters will attack the vehicle/horse/boat etc. first and once destroyed start on the player
15:14 IhrFussel My players abuse the current fact that they are immune to damage when attached to a car
15:15 IhrFussel Cars have no HP...
15:15 sfan5 srifqi: well not exactly, but i suggest you to use the same mingw toolchain used by travis
15:15 sfan5 srifqi: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob​/master/util/travis/before_install.sh#L30
15:16 tenplus1 in which case the mobs cannot attack player inside...
15:16 tenplus1 but will look into it
15:17 IhrFussel Isn't there a simple check I need to comment out to attack the player instead?
15:17 rdococ lol
15:17 tenplus1 like I said, if the player is attached to a vehicle it's a whole new object that the mob attacks
15:18 rdococ omfg just decrease its hp :P
15:18 rdococ jk
15:18 IhrFussel So the only way would be to destroy the vehicle via remove()...or can you detach a player from another mod?
15:19 tenplus1 rdococ: sethp is one way but then punch callbacks arent called
15:19 IhrFussel So that the player leaves the car when a monster attacks
15:19 tenplus1 once player leaves car then monster will go straight for player
15:20 IhrFussel Yes but can Mobs Redo make the player leave the vehicle?
15:20 tenplus1 no, only WHEN the vehicle is destroyed
15:20 tenplus1 give the car an HP limit
15:21 IhrFussel Okay then...and is there a way to give monsters nametags in their definition? I'd like their names to appear over their heads
15:22 tenplus1 you can use the new on_spawn function to set nametags
15:22 tenplus1 but yes, I'll add a way to make it simpler
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15:22 rdococ I have considered a wiring system which uses a head wire and a tail wire node before
15:22 srifqi network hiccup
15:23 srifqi sfan5: So, I just need to do wget, sed, and unpack?
15:24 IhrFussel tenplus1, so just on_spawn = function(self) ?
15:24 * rdococ hiccups
15:25 IhrFussel And inside self.nametag = blah ?
15:25 tenplus1 yeh
15:26 srifqi sfan5: It says ubuntu 14.04, will it work on ubuntu 16.04?
15:27 rdococ self.blah = blah
15:28 rdococ yay, my blah is now blah
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15:32 Megaf Hi tenplus1
15:33 tenplus1 hi Megaf, wb DS
15:33 tenplus1 fussel, I've updated mobs api, you can have   nametag = "whateva",    in mob definition now
15:33 DS-minetest hi
15:33 DS-minetest thx 10+1
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15:37 Megaf Hum, Onetyfive minus 4.
15:38 IhrFussel tenplus1, the on_spawn() method doesn't seem to work
15:38 IhrFussel on_spawn = function(self)
15:38 IhrFussel self.nametag = "Dirt Monster"
15:38 IhrFussel end,
15:39 IhrFussel Any errors in that code?
15:39 tenplus1 gotta udpate entity for it to show, but like I said above, in the mob registry you can add:    nametag = "Dirt MOnsterr",
15:40 IhrFussel But I use a custom version of mobs redo..is the fix simple?
15:40 tenplus1 custom as in how ?
15:40 IhrFussel So that the mod understands my level system and quest system
15:41 tenplus1 check last commit to mobs redo and it'll show you what was added, it's an easy insert
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15:55 IhrFussel tenplus1, seems to work awesome!
15:56 tenplus1 kewl
15:56 tenplus1 am surprised I never added it before
15:58 tenplus1 also the CMI mod was meant to link all mobs mods with  feedback for mods... this was added to mobs redo so that mob punches would report back and you could do stuff with it
16:04 srifqi Finally, it compiles! :D
16:05 srifqi It's still compiling, though.
16:05 srifqi 34% .-.
16:12 IhrFussel tenplus1, THANK YOU so much...players started to annoy with their questions "which monster is xy, I need it for my quest"
16:12 tenplus1 hehehe
16:28 rdococ nee
16:29 tenplus1 " we are the knight who say.... NI!"
16:31 sfan5 srifqi: porbably, just try it
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16:35 tenplus1 wb Krock
16:35 Krock hi tenplus1
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16:36 tenplus1 hi lisac
16:36 lisac hey tenplus1
16:37 tenplus1 this is what I found in my spare room: https://pastebin.com/gCQDbCD0
16:44 lisac tenplus1, you could probably sell the monitors
16:44 tenplus1 not monitors, actual LCD panels inside laptops :)
16:51 tenplus1 just gotta figure out what to do with all this :P
16:53 sofar ... recycle ...
16:54 lisac or wait a few years and sell it in Serbia as new technology
16:54 * lisac is learning pascal in school, in 2017
16:56 rdococ hm.
16:57 tenplus1 nice
16:57 rdococ from regular MT wiki: "Ignited gun powder ignites neighboring (including diagonals) gun powder and TNT blocks. "
16:57 rdococ pretty sure it doesn't ignite diagonals anymore
16:57 tenplus1 lisac:  old dos version or windows "delphi" /
16:57 benrob0329 lisac: Object Pascal is a modern language
16:57 benrob0329 Free Pascal is pretty neat, actually
16:57 * tenplus1 wrote a GUI interface for pascal in college (dos version
16:59 lisac tenplus1, benrob0329: It's delphi pascal
16:59 benrob0329 Good
16:59 tenplus1 :P
16:59 lisac I'm wondering how do they expect me to do homework without giving me a licensed version, though
17:00 lisac I'll also put in that I don't have licensed windows, either. :P
17:00 benrob0329 lisac: Free Pascal in Delphi mode?
17:00 lisac Not sure if that would work
17:00 * lisac downloads free pascal
17:00 CWz who uses pascal dis day in age
17:01 tenplus1 it's an old language but shows structure like c :)
17:03 benrob0329 CWz: lots of people
17:05 tenplus1 I may give LUA a chance outwith minetest and see what I can do with it on a linux desktop :)
17:06 lisac tenplus1, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/awesome
17:06 lisac if you want to give Lua a chance on a Linux Desktop...
17:07 tenplus1 ooh!
17:08 benrob0329 I tried Awesome, wasn't a fan but lots of other people are
17:09 tenplus1 I use LXDE which is quite light already :)
17:13 lisac how do I make guis in pascal?
17:13 lisac freepascal
17:13 lisac not even this IDE is actual gui. Just some ascii art
17:13 tenplus1 are you using a dos/console based pascal or windows version ?
17:14 lisac freepascal, whichever that is
17:14 tenplus1 here's an example program I wrote ages ago for graphics: https://pastebin.com/dChq4523
17:30 lisac tenplus1, https://pastebin.com/vwXYiCw3
17:30 lisac my progress so far
17:30 tenplus1 ehe, that's always the best test for any language
17:31 tenplus1 I hated Cobol in college, same example: https://pastebin.com/kKkHF3gf
17:31 rdococ has there been a change in biome registration recently?
17:32 rdococ hell, even carbone seems to have lost all its biomes
17:32 rdococ if it had any, that is
17:33 rdococ heh, good thing the v6 mapgen comes with biomes
17:33 * tenplus1 hasnt tested 0.5.0-dev
17:33 tenplus1 v6 biomes are hardcoded
17:36 Calinou hi
17:36 rdococ ik
17:36 tenplus1 hi Cal
17:36 rdococ cal!
17:37 rdococ yay, it's eleven and calories
17:37 tenplus1 :P
17:37 lisac hey Calinou, wanna join me in hating pascal?
17:37 tenplus1 lol lisac
17:37 rdococ depends, is pascal bad?
17:38 lisac verrry bad
17:38 * lisac was a click close to opening WoW again now
17:39 benrob0329 Pascal isnt bad, its just not as popular as it once was
17:39 Calinou lisac: MaybeButOnlyIfItInvolvesHatingLispAsWell
17:39 tenplus1 to think schools use tot each basic, then pascal, then c... why are they going b ackwards
17:39 lisac tenplus1, we had basic in elementary school
17:39 rdococ omfg just use python already
17:40 lisac I don't get a choice lol
17:40 Calinou https://hastebin.com/macafujiru.xml
17:40 lisac for the record, I made some stuff in python
17:40 Calinou kids these days…
17:40 tenplus1 python is fun, as is Lua
17:40 Calinou they were told not to use Enter as punctuation ;)
17:40 rdococ Lua is kinda fun, but it's also pretty weird :P
17:40 Calinou and they didn't; instead, they used Enter as character separator
17:40 lisac Arrays start at 1.
17:40 rdococ I mean, in Lua you can have recursive tables which contain themselves. tell me THAT'S not weird.
17:41 Calinou oh by the way, is there a subreddit dedicated to "funny" GitHub issues? :D
17:41 Calinou I was thinking about that when I saw https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/issues/486 yesterday
17:41 benrob0329 Lua is...idek what
17:41 lisac Calinou, if you find it, add this http://i.imgur.com/WOwOmKj.jpg
17:41 rdococ and even weirder is that while you can use tables as keys, each table is a separate object
17:41 lisac That should've been two separate commits.
17:42 rdococ as in "local a = {}; local b = {}; return a == b;" will return false
17:42 tenplus1 since lua and python are both interpreters both are good, although lua is a LOT smaller
17:42 Calinou relevant: https://github.com/search?q=fuck&​amp;type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93 and https://github.com/search?q=fuck&a​mp;type=Commits&utf8=%E2%9C%93
17:42 benrob0329 Abomination might be a good start to describing it...
17:42 Calinou GitHub searches :^)
17:42 rdococ benrob0329: I code with an abomination every day >:D
17:43 tenplus1 lolol
17:43 benrob0329 Technically JS is more of an abomination do your good
17:43 benrob0329 *so
17:44 rdococ heh
17:46 benrob0329 I definitely prefer python, and you have cython for compiled stuff
17:47 rdococ cython :P
17:47 rdococ benrob0329: compromise solution: lython
17:47 benrob0329 Also PyPy for a JIT
17:48 benrob0329 rdococ: nooo, that'd be an even bigger abomination
17:48 tenplus1 lol
17:49 rdococ heh
18:01 tenplus1 http://chemaguerra.com/lua-vs-python/
18:03 Krock I suppose GitHub is trying to tell me something: https://i.imgur.com/KWs6cQV.png
18:03 rdococ oh, nice
18:03 rdococ lol
18:03 rdococ Krock: O_o
18:03 Krock *clears cache*
18:04 Krock hmm.. that didn't help
18:05 sfan5 they broke their css
18:05 tenplus1 o/ sfan
18:05 Krock yeah, but only the header/background specific one. labels seem to use another css file
18:07 rdococ ...yeah, github looks ill
18:07 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/chro​me_2017-09-05_20-07-37.png
18:07 Calinou gg wp no re, GitHub
18:07 Calinou their CSS is failing to load or something
18:08 Calinou a Ctrl+F5 doesn't fix it :P
18:08 rdococ lol
18:08 rdococ my browser's dev. tools gives an error message which references CORS
18:09 Calinou same
18:09 rdococ wonder what CORSed it :P
18:19 rdococ dammit, my queue thing is broken
18:21 rdococ wait, I am an actual idiot
18:21 rdococ the main execution queue doesn't persist
18:21 rdococ why would any other queue
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18:42 tenplus1 hi raven
18:42 Raven262 hi tenplus1
18:42 Raven262 Almost...
18:44 rubenwardy Hi all o/
18:45 tenplus1 hi ruben
18:45 rubenwardy what's occuring
18:45 tenplus1 playing with lua in terminal :P
18:45 lisac hey rubenwardy, join me in my quest to hate pascal!
18:45 tenplus1 ooh, is anyone using an intel baytrail cpu on linux ? I have a fix for cstates until latest kernel sorts it
18:45 Raven262 Hi rubenwardy
18:47 rubenwardy urgh
18:47 rubenwardy my tutor at college loved pascal
18:47 rubenwardy for no other reason that it was the first language he learnt
18:47 tenplus1 same, and for some odd reason Cobol also
18:47 Raven262 And so does lisac's, as i have heard.
18:50 rubenwardy Lua is a pretty cool language
18:50 * lisac has to learn pascal in school this year.
18:50 rubenwardy so many features just from tables
18:52 lisac arrays start at 1.
18:52 lisac :P
18:53 rdococ lua is kinda strange
18:53 rdococ specifically the whole "tables being references" thing
18:55 rubenwardy that's annoying, lisac, but there are bigger language issues
19:02 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6379 such a weird issue
19:03 rdococ wat
19:03 rdococ tbh, I kind of remember that happening, idk where though
19:03 rdococ "WOAH! My item entity became my hand! Ew!"
19:03 tenplus1 never had it happen myself, but then again I use a custom builtin_item
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19:04 tenplus1 hi paramat
19:05 rdococ hi
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19:10 rdococ hi eleven and raven
19:10 Raven262 Hi rdococ
19:10 Raven262 Hi twelveminusone :)
19:11 Raven262 Actually
19:11 Raven262 twelveminus1
19:11 Raven262 like that
19:11 Raven262 matches the original better.
19:11 rubenwardy "Guess what? If you become a patron to Paramat, you’ll immediately get access to as many as 1 patron-only posts."
19:12 paramat you lucky people :]
19:13 paramat https://www.patreon.com/paramat
19:14 * tenplus1 is test driving FriendUP os... is pretty good
19:17 rdococ hi ninetynineminus88
19:17 tenplus1 lol
19:27 tenplus1 hi tommy
19:39 rubenwardy Windows 2000 in a VM written only in JS: https://i.rubenwardy.com/dAUWKGv2vB.png
19:40 tenplus1 ?
19:40 rubenwardy that's IE running on Windows 2000 in Firefox running on Ubuntu 17.04
19:40 rubenwardy https://bellard.org/jslinux/vm.html?url=https​%3A%2F%2Fbellard.org%2Fjslinux%2Fwin2k.cfg&am​p;mem=192&graphic=1&w=1024&h=768
19:40 tenplus1 woah
19:40 tenplus1 can it properly run windows software /
19:41 rubenwardy it's a VM so yes
19:41 rubenwardy it is an emulator
19:41 rubenwardy unlike WINE
19:41 tenplus1 is it running vm from server side or client browser ?
19:41 rubenwardy <rubenwardy> Windows 2000 in a VM written only in JS
19:42 rubenwardy it's written in JS
19:42 rubenwardy it runs in the browser
19:42 tenplus1 damn, is there nothing you cant do with JS :P
19:42 rubenwardy use it to make mods for
19:42 rubenwardy use it to make mods for FOSS Voxel Games
19:43 tenplus1 omg, its so damned slow
19:43 rubenwardy tenplus1, surprisingly fast for me
19:43 rubenwardy reminds me of my laptop I had then
19:43 tenplus1 heh, you have a better pc I dare say... I have an intel atmo
19:43 rubenwardy He's a linux one: https://bellard.org/jslinux/vm.html​?url=https://bellard.org/jslinux/bu​ildroot-x86-xwin.cfg&amp;graphic=1
19:43 tenplus1 *atom
19:44 rubenwardy *Here's
19:44 tenplus1 this is the aim of FriendUP Os... to run everything you need within a browser session, even run windows programs BUT at full speed using other pc resources
19:45 tenplus1 nite all o/
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19:54 nerzhul !tell Krock thanks
19:54 ShadowBot nerzhul: O.K.
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20:40 Aerozoic Just curious... Will a MT 5.0 client be able to play on a 4.X server?
20:42 nerzhul no
20:43 Aerozoic :(
20:43 nerzhul it's why it's a major version
20:46 Aerozoic I just thought that meant mods needed to comply with the new version. I had no idea the client wouldn't be compatible.
20:52 paramat other way around, mods will work but old clients won't
20:52 paramat we're not breaking mods or existing worlds, as that would be much more disruptive
20:55 rdococ lo
20:55 Aerozoic hmm ok, i'm thoroughly confused now XD
20:55 rdococ what are the changes to the core anyway?
20:57 Aerozoic I'm not a coder so you don't have to explain, i'll figure it out eventually.  Thanks for the response though paramat :)
21:02 paramat rdococ see changelog or commits
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21:35 Megaf Hi all
21:35 Megaf how do I tell cmake where luajit and irrlich are?
21:36 sfan5 i suggest reading the README
21:36 nerzhul +1
21:41 Megaf Common
21:41 Megaf if you know by heart just say
21:42 Megaf if the readme was in a real format, universal, like .md... But it is in this stupid txt format because stupid windows
21:43 Megaf What!?
21:43 Megaf it was changed
21:43 Megaf to md
21:43 Megaf lol
21:43 Megaf I suggested changing to .md years ago, even submited a PR
21:43 Megaf and it was not merged because windows
21:45 rubenwardy that was a stupid decision
21:53 Calinou https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/k​onversation-2x-2018-new-user-inter​face-matrix-support-mobile-version
21:53 Calinou a modern IRC client, and soon Matrix!
21:53 Calinou no word on Windows/macOS support though :(
21:53 Calinou (as with anything KDE)
21:53 Calinou (KDE is supposed to have a Windows initiative at least, but it's dead and really bad)
21:54 Calinou no word on a dark theme either :P
21:55 Megaf I didnt actually send a PR, according to GitHub, but I did make at least the suggestion
21:55 rubenwardy PPA, Calinou?
21:56 Calinou rubenwardy: PPA for what?
21:56 rubenwardy oh right, it's not released yet
21:56 rubenwardy misread
21:56 Calinou it's 2017, Linux users are still expected to build most things from source 8)
21:57 rubenwardy :P
21:57 Calinou reminds me that I should contribute AppImage builds to Minetest's GitLab CI
21:57 Calinou nerzhul: also, the automatic builds should be uploaded to something like Bintray (or just a SFTP server)
21:57 Calinou GitLab CI isn't made for mass downloading, the interface isn't user-friendly
21:57 Calinou it's pretty easy to do
21:58 Calinou (Bintray offers 10 GB of storage, and 1 TB of bandwidth per month for free, to open source projects)
22:11 Calinou KaadmY: https://pbs.twimg.com/media​/DI38Kl4UMAATIo-.jpg:large
22:11 Calinou come see Evilution!
22:11 Calinou of course, this wouldn't be complete without "Come see Plutonia": https://pbs.twimg.com/media​/DIz5fOWUwAEwI73.jpg:large
22:14 Calinou also Raven262 ^ :P
22:26 nerzhul gitlab ci is for building on many many platform, mass dl is not a regular dl
22:28 Megaf How great
22:28 Megaf make fails on luajit and make install fails on irrlicht
22:28 Megaf splendid
22:31 Calinou nerzhul didn't understand what I wanted :|
22:31 Calinou users have trouble understanding the GitLab CI interface for downloading binaries
22:31 Calinou they just want a binary
22:31 Calinou Bintray does this okay, a SFTP does this better
22:37 red-001 lol looks like bots are scraping github for emails
22:43 red-001 and apparently people who are as persistent as a badly designed bot
22:44 rubenwardy red-001, ?
22:45 red-001 getting spam mail from that guy that runs minetest.org
22:45 rubenwardy oh right
22:45 rubenwardy he's now got my rubenwardy.com email
22:45 rubenwardy heh
22:45 Megaf I'm dying here, haha https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.​com/photo/ajN7Ye0_460sv.mp4
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22:48 rubenwardy wait, the email I have is some business opportunity from a guy called Mohammed
22:48 red-001 wait a minute
22:48 red-001 I got the same spam
22:48 red-001 let me see if I permentaly deleted it yet
22:49 red-001 well oc is using questionable domains to send his spam
22:49 red-001 as in domains that send spam
22:50 red-001 so I wouldn't be surprised if people running this domains scrapped emails going through them for addresses and then sold those lists
22:53 benrob0329 weeew https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/751935372572762112
22:54 red-001 anyone else get a 419 scam sent to them?
23:00 srifqi sfan5, when I run minetest, I got error message: "This application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b).".
23:01 sfan5 probably missing dll
23:01 srifqi Let me copy those dlls.
23:02 srifqi Where could I find libgcc_s_seh-1.dll?
23:02 sfan5 <mingw installation>/x86_64-w64-mingw32/bin/
23:04 srifqi sfan5, it works!
23:05 srifqi But, do we really need 25 dll files?
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23:34 benrob0329 !seen Shara
23:34 ShadowBot benrob0329: I saw Shara in #minetest-hub 1 day, 12 hours, 21 minutes, and 56 seconds ago saying "Best of luck Calinou :)"
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23:49 rubenwardy that was very odd

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