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01:10 bigfoot547 How many times has the problem addressed in #6380 been "fixed" and why have it never happened to me?
01:11 bigfoot547 Or is it like "fix NOT jumping"?
01:30 paramat yes it's fix 'not jumping at node edge', although i'm doubtful it's a big problem
01:37 bigfoot547 Okay, thanks paramat :)
01:43 paramat it means you can hang out over the edge of a node further (by 2/16 nodes) and still be able to jump
01:44 bigfoot547 Yes, I have noticed that as a problem :P
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04:25 rdococ dammit
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09:08 tenplus1 hi folks
09:11 Raven262 hi tenplus1
09:11 tenplus1 hi raven
09:12 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6131
09:14 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5971
09:20 tenplus1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4484
09:24 TommyTreasure hi tenplus1, quick question of etheral.  is there a way to adjust the chance rate of biomes?  remember, i'm not a coder.  :)
09:25 tenplus1 hi tommy and it's all down to the world seed for the chance of biomes
09:25 TommyTreasure gotcha!  thanks
09:25 tenplus1 some seeds produce ice worlds, other desert and many normal inbetween :D
09:26 TommyTreasure they're crystal/frost biome is just super rare with my current seed
09:26 tenplus1 although manually editing biome values would work but also be a real pain
09:26 TommyTreasure that would probably require a map reset too?
09:26 tenplus1 yup :P
09:27 TommyTreasure not good.  lol
09:27 tenplus1 am sure you'll stumble across a large crystal biome soon enough :) it takes time and stops players becoming too OP with the crystal armor :D
09:28 TommyTreasure until they find out how to propagate and sell. :)
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09:28 TommyTreasure thanks anyway.  have a good one!
09:29 tenplus1 o/
10:07 Megaf Hey tenplus1
10:07 tenplus1 hi Megaf
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10:08 tenplus1 hi Jordach
10:11 Megaf Hi Jordach
10:17 Megaf 60 FPS HDR videos look absolutely astonishing on my OLED phone, I have no words to describe, even at 720p
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10:17 tenplus1 hi Darcidride
10:17 Megaf it definitely looks better than 4K on my MacBook Pro
10:17 tenplus1 what kinda phone u got ?
10:17 Megaf The colour range and contrast is just phenomenal
10:17 tenplus1 sounds like a good screen
10:18 Megaf It's an old Motorola Razr I (XT890)
10:18 Megaf but it does have an OLED screen
10:18 Megaf blacks are blacks
10:18 Megaf I could take a photo of it, but it wouldn't work...
10:18 tenplus1 oled screens are amazing, but the blue issue after a few years is a problem
10:18 Megaf What you mean?
10:19 Megaf What do you mean?*
10:19 tenplus1 after a while the blue loses contrast and the picture looks weird
10:19 tenplus1 can still see whats going on but colours are flakey...
10:20 Megaf hm, not on my phone
10:20 Megaf well, I always had the screen in power save mode, to make it dimmer
10:20 tenplus1 I dunno how this is on newer screens, but the 1st oled one's had this problem
10:26 Darcidride Hi
10:26 Megaf what happened to my phone is a burn in
10:26 Megaf the whole screen is a little burned, slightly yellowed
10:26 tenplus1 erk
10:27 Megaf but only noticible when on full screen, you notice because the black bar at the botton where the touch buttons are is slightly brighter and whitier
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10:29 tenplus1 hi lisac
10:39 Megaf Jordach, photos of my phone's screen. http://imgur.com/a/kmoiI
10:39 Megaf sorry
10:39 Megaf tenplus1, ^
10:39 Megaf the first bunch of photos it's it playing HDR 60 FPS 720p video
10:40 Megaf then the dark wallpaper and then just a random HDR photo from google
10:40 Megaf the first photo is just to show the burned screen
10:41 tenplus1 viewing using PaleMoon browser :)
10:41 Megaf that's the HDR photo http://i.imgur.com/OwTWA0w.jpg
10:41 tenplus1 clear pic
10:41 Megaf the photos I took are HDRish themselves, you will see better on a OLED screen...
10:42 Megaf just the resolution is, old...
10:42 Megaf the screen's resolution
10:42 tenplus1 heh, way better than my Lenovo B screen... TFT 842x480
10:43 Megaf "4.3″(10.9cm) edge-to-edge qHD Super AMOLED Advanced touchscreen, 540×960 pixels (256 dpi), 16M colors"
10:43 tenplus1 nice
10:44 tenplus1 hell they are making mobiles now with 4k displays...  when will it end :PPPP
10:44 Megaf iPhone 7 has less than half the pixel density per square inch of my phone
10:45 Megaf iPhone 7 is 326, mine is 256
10:45 Megaf now idea how many colours tho
10:45 tenplus1 wait, isnt 326 a higher pixel density than 256 per square inch ???
10:46 Megaf less than double*
10:46 Megaf I mean, is not that much more
10:47 Megaf iPhone 7 is 16M colours too
10:48 Megaf now, Galaxy S8 is insane. 570 ppi
10:49 tenplus1 surprised you can read text on that one... heh...
10:49 tenplus1 brb, making lunch :)))
10:50 Megaf This is my current dream phone http://www.gsmarena.com/moto​rola_moto_z2_force-8693.php
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10:52 DS-minetest hi
10:52 DS-minetest hi tenplus1
10:52 DS-minetest ha, i was faster!
10:53 tenplus1 hi DS...  making bolognaise :DDD
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10:57 tenplus1 hi fixer
11:07 Jordach Megaf, hwat phone
11:08 Megaf Jordach, message was to tenplus1, sorry. But it's a Razr I (XT890)
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11:35 tenplus1 wb caleb
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11:35 tenplus1 wb thomas
11:36 ThomasMonroe hey
11:36 CalebDavis thx ten
11:57 Fixer hi
11:57 CalebDavis hi Fixer
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12:02 tenplus1 wb DS
12:02 DS-minetest thx tenplus1
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12:03 tenplus1 hi xerox
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12:07 tenplus1 hi robbie
12:08 RobbieF Good morning tenplus1
12:08 RobbieF How are things?
12:08 tenplus1 good thanks, you ?
12:11 RobbieF great man
12:14 tenplus1 glad to hear :)
12:14 RobbieF Trying to find a way to reduce / eliminate trolls from our IRC channel
12:14 tenplus1 what's happening in irf ?
12:14 tenplus1 *irc
12:15 RobbieF ach, we had some trolls coming in and swearing and such on the weekend. I wasn't around (long weekend) so now trying to prevent that kinda thing, if possible.
12:16 tenplus1 are you running a swear filter ?
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12:16 tenplus1 hi twoelk
12:16 twoelk o/
12:16 shivajiva keyword the channel and only give the key to staff and friends :)
12:16 shivajiva Hi folks
12:16 twoelk \o
12:17 tenplus1 hi shiva
12:17 shivajiva only way I could guarantee skyblocks players were not subjected to irc trolls :/
12:18 tenplus1 another reason I dont connect Xanadu to IRC...
12:19 shivajiva yea but you can't be in game or staff it 24/7 and have a life, irc is the compromise
12:20 tenplus1 that's why I appoint admin with 'limit' and 'kick' privs :)
12:20 tenplus1 also swear filter and names_per_ip handles players
12:20 * twoelk likes lurking in server-irc channels now and then
12:21 shivajiva admin is a very misleading title for someone with kick and limit privs =)
12:21 RobbieF tenplus1 swear filter? no. How?
12:22 shivajiva intercept the chat message, compare against blacklist and action on it
12:22 tenplus1 hold on, will give u info
12:22 shivajiva anticurse mod for example
12:22 tenplus1 this is what we use on Xanadu; https://pastebin.com/aZfztVf7
12:22 tenplus1 excuse the language within
12:23 tenplus1 can easily be added to and kicks foul mouthed players with a warning message and BLOCKS the message from chat :)
12:24 * twoelk remembers long discussions about the usefullness of swear filters
12:25 red-001 keyword the channel for set it to moderated and only give voice to trusted people
12:25 red-001 s/for/or
12:25 tenplus1 hi red
12:25 red-001 swear filter are useful at stopping people that don't know that swearing is banned from swearing
12:26 shivajiva you could extract the russian words from the anticurse mod also Robbie, my list has English,Russian,Spanish and a few other random words people gave me
12:26 Fuchs swear filters don't work
12:26 Fuchs people will start to slightly alter the words, 1337speak or whatnot, so they pass,
12:27 Fuchs whilst regular words that contain swearwords or are also used as swear words will get blocked
12:27 Fuchs http://bash.org/?178890  etc.
12:28 RobbieF Oh - so you're just hiding trolls from the game?
12:28 tenplus1 hi Fuchs
12:28 shivajiva they don't work for users intent on bypassing them, granted but they do have a use where kids play imo
12:29 tenplus1 a slip of the tongue will be caught and not shown, for that it's good
12:29 shivajiva ^
12:30 RobbieF I think I could add that to our in-game filtering system as well!
12:30 tenplus1 just a matter of plopping the code somewhere handy and it works
12:33 RobbieF I don't see in your code how this impacts IRC
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12:33 RobbieF only seems to be in game chat
12:33 tenplus1 hi srifqi
12:33 RobbieF It's essentially a basic version of our rule enforcer mod: https://github.com/Cat5TV/tps_ru​le_enforcer/blob/master/init.lua
12:33 srifqi hi tenplus1
12:33 RobbieF but are you saying it ALSO filters irc mod?
12:34 tenplus1 minetest chat only... although I've never used irc mod so dunno how it interacts
12:34 RobbieF okay, so not related.  :)
12:35 shivajiva any swearing in the IRC channel will be passed to the game and not intercepted unfortunately
12:37 Calinou hi
12:37 shivajiva you would need to hook into the irc mod specifically to trap that
12:37 Calinou it's official, I failed my driving exam
12:37 srifqi hi Calinou
12:37 shivajiva hi Cal
12:37 tenplus1 hi Cal
12:37 shivajiva :/
12:37 shivajiva nerves?
12:37 tenplus1 sorry to hear dude, next time you'll blast through it ;)
12:38 nerzhul hey red-001  can you finish your HUD CSM pr ? :D
12:40 shivajiva work on the areas you picked up points on and apply as soon as possible for a retest Calinou whilst it's all fresh, I'm sure it will go well next time
12:42 Calinou I don't have the details since the driving license website is crap
12:42 Calinou maybe they'll send snail mail or something, not sure
12:42 Calinou I'll surely have to apply for additional lessons (yay for -€200 or so)
12:43 nerzhul Calinou, it's because godot canno thandle vehicles
12:43 Calinou lol
12:44 tenplus1 :P
12:44 shivajiva I was sure I had failed my test, came off a roundabout and the indicator didn't cancel, bright sunny day and I couldn't see the warning lamp on the dash, took me a good 30 seconds to realise, I still passed though because the examiner factored the variables and didn't penalise me for it
12:44 * twoelk failed the first time as well - long ago
12:45 * tenplus1 remembers an emergency stop in the snow and sliding 200feet :) wooohooooo!
12:45 shivajiva lol
12:45 Calinou I was on the left side of a two-way road but it wasn't obivous at all
12:45 Calinou and I failed a maneuver
12:46 Calinou still, this is the first exam I failed in my life
12:46 Calinou so it's an humiliating moment for me
12:46 tenplus1 mostly due to nerves I dare say
12:47 twoelk bah get used to failing and develope a strategy cope in time
12:47 Calinou also because I didn't know the road, but well
12:47 twoelk always good to have plan b
12:47 Calinou I know a lot of the roads in my city, but not all
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12:47 shivajiva it's about your safety as much as everyone else's Cal, don't feel bad
12:47 Calinou I already drive better than many other people I've seen on the road
12:48 Calinou I'm not joking, it's mostly bad luck
12:48 shivajiva you'll make a good taxi driver then xD Jk
12:48 twoelk remember that once you have your license - there's a lot of people out there that don't deserve it
12:48 Calinou I was expecting that they wouldn't give me my license anyway
12:49 Calinou but it still really pisses me off that I have to try again, which leaves a really bitter taste to everyone, including my wallet
12:49 Calinou I already spent €105 for additional lessons
12:49 Calinou (that my parents refunded, thankfully)
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12:50 twoelk let the wallet be the only thing of concern - everything else add as valueable experience of growing up :-P
12:50 Calinou I've had 33 lessons (45 minutes each) before attempting the exam, all done in a single month
12:50 twoelk wow
12:50 Calinou twoelk: we're not a rich family, we try to optimize everything
12:50 Calinou read: we're cheapstakes :P
12:51 tenplus1 frugal is a better word for it ;D
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12:51 twoelk to be honest I couldn't afford a driving license nowadays
12:51 shivajiva I think cautious optimism is a better approach, seems like you did it a little quick to fully absorb but whatever works for you
12:52 tenplus1 they are rather espensive now...   I remember paying £12 a lesson when I learned
12:52 Calinou doing a lot in a short time span often works for me
12:52 Calinou it didn't here because the teachers dislike me
12:52 Calinou especially one of them
12:52 Calinou a lesson (45 minutes) is €35 here, when you buy one individually
12:52 tenplus1 oof, expensive indeed
12:52 shivajiva change tutor Cal
12:52 twoelk things I learn fast - I usually forget fast
12:53 Calinou I can't change, they're forced
12:53 shivajiva I paid £6 a lesson, just showing my age :P
12:54 Calinou also, this allowed me to do all lessons in August (during summer break)
12:54 Calinou less people on the roads, no classes
12:54 Calinou unfortunately, I'll have to take my additional lessons and 2nd exam during school
12:54 twoelk nice plan :-D
12:54 Calinou so it'll be harder
12:54 shivajiva yea that was a good strategy
12:55 twoelk I had lessons that took me to the school or from school home. that was pretty convenient
12:56 tenplus1 would be nice if schools had a Drivers Ed. class
12:56 twoelk also usefull as that was my main track most of the time once I had a car
12:56 tenplus1 :p
12:56 Calinou schools don't do driving lessons here, but you do have some road safety things
12:57 twoelk same at my time
12:57 Calinou yeah, my plan is to go to engineering school by car
12:57 Calinou I don't have any other viable means
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12:57 Calinou right now, my parents bring me there
12:59 twoelk I lived in a little town so doing anything always included needing a car
12:59 twoelk or doing a lot of train riding
12:59 tenplus1 that's the only good thing about my little town, everything is in walking distance
13:00 Calinou yes, a car is mandatory here
13:01 tenplus1 it use to be that hosues were built around a small town centre of sorts where you could get anything... but more and more industrial estates are cropping up needing a 1hr drive
13:01 twoelk when I was a kid there was a decent variety of shops and infrastructure within bicycle range, now everything is some place mostly accessable by car
13:02 tenplus1 sad but true twoelk
13:04 twoelk we have a new somewhat larger supermarket on the outskirts near the motorway. Paths for pedestrians and bicycles where definetly not planned by people who use those
13:04 CalebDavis do you know why when i set one bone of the player all the other bones dont keep playing the animation
13:05 tenplus1 *shudder* player bones setup
13:06 tenplus1 back laters folks o/
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13:18 cx384 Hello!
13:19 twoelk o/
13:21 srifqi Hi! o/
13:22 CalebDavis hi o/
13:26 Jordach >NW-WMA35 arrives
13:26 Jordach here come that FLAC boi
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14:19 CWz "Minetest 0.5 is on the road" oh so that what i have flat tire
14:23 * Jordach imagines a mid 90s Skoda hatchback that's falling apart with rusty arches
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14:29 srifqi wb nerzhul
14:32 nerzhul ty
14:53 CalebDavis ik how to get what a player is atached to but is there a way to get what is atached to a player
14:54 rdococ hi
14:54 CalebDavis hi rdococ
14:56 * rdococ tries out Carbone-NG
14:59 rdococ my bouncer channel list is shrinking
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15:30 Fixer rdococ: carbone-ng is outdated since forever
15:31 rdococ Fixer: meh
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15:34 IhrFussel Any reason why biome_lib separated the mapblock inserting in 2 callbacks? Can I safely merge them? https://pastebin.com/3UufkzCK
15:37 nerzhul no reason and that add some performance issues as you ahve 2 entries in the dictionnary for nothing, this decrease the lookup performance
15:37 nerzhul as it's on block generation callback this can be huge when generating map
15:37 nerzhul don't forget to backport your change upstream
15:44 CalebDavis is there a way to set one bones position w-out canceling all of the other bones animations
16:01 srifqi gotta go sleep, see you
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16:27 Grandolf whats wrong with this? https://pastebin.com/DfrmkKtR
16:32 IhrFussel Grandolf, what's the error?
16:32 IhrFussel Or what's the end result?
16:36 IhrFussel Grandolf, sounds have to be named after the mod so "modname_soundname.ogg" in /sounds and "modname_soundname" in the sound_play spec
16:46 rdococ hm
16:47 rdococ is there a simple way to force something like a piston to extend?
16:48 CalebDavis push it XD
16:48 DS-minetest replace the nodes
16:48 DS-minetest and look into piston code
16:49 shivajiva small amount of fuel mixed with air and a spark :P
16:59 rdococ lol
17:01 rdococ well, I have a system which can activate/deactivate any mesecons effector - though it goes and directly calls the action_on/off method defined.
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17:02 rdococ but then I get a weird glitch where the piston/lightstone looks deactivated, but the node name (as shown by the inspector tool) suggests that it's activated
17:02 rdococ and the glitch is inconsistent too
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17:17 ThomasMonroe hey guys i just got a really good idea for a new name
17:17 ThomasMonroe for Minetest that is
17:17 rdococ AGameThatDoesntSuckUnlikeMinecraft
17:18 ThomasMonroe VoxAMine
17:18 rdococ meh
17:18 ThomasMonroe its better than something like Freeminer
17:18 rdococ if we end up with many more less-minetest_game-based sub/games in the future, I think we should eventually switch to a name that doesn't mention mining
17:18 ThomasMonroe right
17:19 Calinou what if we closed everything? then we could call it Proprietaryminer!
17:19 rdococ lol
17:19 ThomasMonroe like something to the effect of CreaVox
17:19 rdococ VoxelMagic
17:19 KaadmY Maybe CreaVial?
17:19 KaadmY Same name Kenney had originally for VoXus
17:19 KaadmY Might want to ask him to see if he's okay with Minetest using the name
17:19 ThomasMonroe theres actually a program called MagicaVoxel
17:19 rdococ VoXel
17:20 ThomasMonroe VoxBlox?
17:20 KaadmY VoxBlox is redundant
17:20 ThomasMonroe true
17:21 ThomasMonroe hey did you see my question about the directional lighting KaadmY?
17:21 rdococ I'm still wondering why people ever did/still compare minecraft with roblox
17:21 ThomasMonroe bcs everyone roleplays XD
17:21 KaadmY ThomasMonroe: yeah I answered you already in #minetest-dev
17:21 rdococ I've tried both (well, mostly watched others play the former, but I've played the latter a lot), and they're very different
17:22 rdococ and minetest's gameplay (well, as much as an engine can have gameplay) is different from both of those
17:23 rdococ tbh I'd like to see a lighting system where the brightness of each surface depends (more?) on the light value of the air block it faces
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17:26 KaadmY rdococ: the current light system already does that AFAIK
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17:27 rdococ KaadmY: ah
17:51 rdococ just to confirm, 0.4.17 exists, right?
17:51 lisac rdococ, IIRC it is called 0.4 stable
17:52 lisac while current indev is called 0.5
17:52 rdococ ik
17:52 lisac to signal the release change
17:52 rdococ but 0.4 stable is 0.4.*17*, right?
17:52 lisac yes.
17:52 lisac I think so, at least
17:53 rdococ the only thing I could find that mentioned the version (tbh though, it wasn't a very thorough search) was doc/lua_api.txt - and in the 0.4 stable branch, it does say .17
17:53 Shara Hi everyone
17:54 rdococ sofar: ^ (@others: we were discussing this in another channel)
17:54 shivajiva +Minetest Lua Client Modding API Reference 0.4.17 in 0.4 stable
17:54 sofar the version number in code is ... literally ... bullshit
17:54 sofar only thing that matters is the release tag
17:55 sofar anything else isn't stable either
17:55 rdococ I am still wondering why an 0.4.17 release hasn't been made
17:55 shivajiva Hi Shara
17:55 sofar because it doesn't exist yet
17:55 rdococ I mean, the branch itself is 0.4-stable
17:55 sofar and may never happen
17:56 rdococ sofar: at the very least it's 0.4.17-dev, though if that were the case, I would be confused at why it's on a stable branch
17:56 sofar if there isn't a tag for it, it doesn't mean anything
17:56 sofar I understand the confusion though
17:56 shivajiva why is this in cmake then? https://github.com/minetest/minete​st/blob/7968f1ddaa67432719d5becdda​5ca8bec58faa47/CMakeLists.txt#L16
17:57 rdococ the game even calls itself 0.4.17 when I run it
17:57 rdococ and not -dev, either
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17:57 rdococ although I've probably just realized that the above link is what controls that
18:00 shivajiva looks like Nerzhul bumped it with the new version scheme 17 days ago
18:00 rubenwardy rdococ, shivajiva, the version scheme has changed
18:01 rubenwardy dev versions are now called NEXTVERSION-dev
18:01 rubenwardy previously they were LASTVERSION-dev
18:01 rdococ ik
18:01 rubenwardy so, I'm not sure why you're asking about 0.4.17
18:02 rdococ sofar said that 0.4.17 doesn't exist
18:02 rubenwardy it doesn't
18:02 sofar many projects bump versions in git way before a release
18:02 rubenwardy 0.4.17-dev does as an informal concept
18:02 sofar it's not a tag so it's not real
18:03 sofar I could put 42 in there
18:04 shivajiva let me get this straight, you dl 0.4 stable and the version is 0.4.16 even though it says 0.4.17
18:04 shivajiva is that what you are saying?
18:04 rubenwardy what
18:04 rubenwardy that sounds like a bug
18:05 sofar download from where?
18:05 rubenwardy nerzhul, you shouldn't have changed stable-04
18:05 shivajiva sounds like it shouldn't have been changed just to avoid confusion
18:05 rubenwardy stable-0.4 should only be for stable releases
18:05 rubenwardy so the most recent commit should always be a release
18:06 rdococ o_O
18:06 rubenwardy sofar, https://github.com/minetest/​minetest/commits/stable-0.4
18:06 sofar yeah, I saw that
18:06 rubenwardy it might be worth making dev-0.4, and reverting that commit
18:06 rdococ there doesn't seem to be a dev-0.4 branch, so I would assume that if 0.4.17-dev exists at all that it must be in the stable-0.4 branch, which is confusing
18:07 rdococ then again, I'm just stating the obvious :P
18:07 sofar force push the HEAD away on stable-0.4?
18:07 rubenwardy it's probably too late
18:07 rubenwardy after 17 days
18:07 sofar making a revert will just make merging troublesome
18:08 rubenwardy well, we're going to have to cherrypick commits anyway
18:08 sofar the branch is wrong anyway
18:27 Calinou heh, nobody talked in #sharex in ~60 hours
18:28 Calinou a true case of Discord killing off IRC :|
18:28 Calinou (they have a Discord server, haven't checked it yet)
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18:31 rubenwardy heh
18:31 rubenwardy I'm currently connected to a Slack server over IRC
18:32 rubenwardy last night for some reason my BNC mixed my servers up
18:32 rubenwardy so it connected me to all the channels on Freenode on the Slack server
18:32 sofar haha
18:32 rubenwardy so I ended up creating around 20 channels on the slack
18:32 rubenwardy each of which are names of the freenode channels I'm in
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18:34 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/KKHi3qvW2n.png
18:55 Krock apparently there's a channel in between minetest and minetest-dev, which isn't -de
18:55 rubenwardy ;)
18:59 Calinou #minetest-lewd, probably
18:59 Calinou and #minetest-minecraft
18:59 Calinou haha, rubenwardy said a message in #sharex to break the silence, nice one
19:02 Krock no, it can't be > "dev"
19:04 rubenwardy it's #minetest-coolpeps
19:04 rubenwardy appears you weren't invited
19:05 Krock no, I'm there and appear to be the only cool pep in the channel
19:06 rubenwardy ah, that's the cloaking device
19:06 rubenwardy you can't see other peps if you're not a coolpep
19:06 Krock but there stands "coolpep", so I'm a coolpep :P
19:07 Krock #minetest-coolpepe would be better, however.
19:09 Krock related xkcd for slack and IRC: https://xkcd.com/1782/
19:12 nerzhul rubenwardy, stable 0.4 is for backport patch and should be stable yes, i don't think chaging the version to be coherent between branches, like we voted break stability
19:12 rubenwardy nerzhul, stable-0.4 should be the latest stable release
19:12 rubenwardy not stable dev
19:13 nerzhul we changed the dev workflow do you remember ?
19:13 nerzhul master is for 0.5.0-dev and stable-0.4 for 0.4.x series, i don't see (personnaly) interest to create 0.4-dev branch just for backport
19:16 Krock indeed, we have a special case right now. For the case people want to build the latests 0.4 stable, the tags can be used to get to the right commit
19:30 rubenwardy nerzhul, can you migrate from player database to files?
19:30 rubenwardy (question in  #minetest)
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20:08 nerzhul rubenwardy, you can but it's not recommended
20:08 nerzhul we deprecated this b ackend
20:12 sofar I went to sqlite on my server
20:13 sofar love it, such nice clean directory
20:29 Jordach benrob0329, :thinking:
20:29 benrob0329 Jordach: thanks
20:30 Calinou think you for this Thinksgiving
20:31 * benrob0329 is finally done with Discord
20:32 nerzhul sofar, heh
20:32 Calinou benrob0329: think of the memes!
20:32 Calinou what will they do without you? they can't live with the 99 other million Discord users who are here for the memes!
20:33 benrob0329 kek
20:33 benrob0329 I have all my memes here
20:34 benrob0329 so im good 👍
20:40 lisac comrade, memes are only fun if everyone gets them.
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21:00 CalebDavis hi all
21:00 DS-minetest hi
21:01 benrob0329 hello
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22:07 sofar just wondering, but, anyone know if it's safe to load e.g. map.sqlite with the sqlite command line tool while the game has it loaded?
22:07 sfan5 100% if you don't modify anything
22:07 sofar just for basic queries and read access?
22:07 sfan5 if you do, probably still safe
22:08 sofar seems silly to copy the file since that's more likely to give you a corrupt copy
22:09 sfan5 yea
22:10 sofar I worked on an option to disable music on itb btw
22:10 sofar will test tonight, can't get mt working inside the subnet of hell^Wwork
22:14 Calinou what's the standard procedure for making backups of a PostgreSQL-using world?
22:15 Calinou copy the world folder and export database(s)?
22:15 Calinou does the server need to be stopped to do this?
22:15 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/qHZC29K.png
22:17 sfan5 Calinou: just use pg's builtin functionality to create a backup and save that along with the world folder contents
22:17 sfan5 and no it obviously does not
22:17 Calinou ah, that's nice
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