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00:01 Megaf_ I wonder if I can target a specific version of windows with MinGW
00:06 Megaf_ It would be nice if I could target windows 9x
00:06 Megaf_ and maybe 3.x
00:08 Fixer Calinou: btw Carpatian has some HUUUGE planes
00:08 Fixer Calinou: as flat as ... flat
00:11 Fixer excellent for city building
00:11 Fixer seed for example: https://i.imgur.com/LAa99yc.png
00:12 Fixer eh, too bad octacians renamer too is stolled (dormant)
00:13 Megaf_ isnt qtcreator a nice IDE?
00:22 * rubenwardy wished lua supported inline functions
00:22 rubenwardy not sure if LuaJIT's prediction would help
00:54 rubenwardy > server owner gives dangerous privs to random players that ask for it
00:54 rubenwardy > is surprised when they abuse said privs
01:07 rdococ heh
01:08 * rdococ eats NetBeans and had a NetFart
01:24 * sofar done for a bit with itb work... lots of changes today
01:25 sofar 33 total published puzzle boxes as of today
01:25 sofar (and about 100 total, the rest is WIP)
01:30 paramat good
01:32 sofar how come I don't see a 'paramat' in players? eh?
01:44 * paramat is elusive
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08:13 CWz Funfact: Making ya youngings watch sesame street makes them flunk collage. :p
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08:22 tenplus1 o/ folks
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08:22 tenplus1 hi Krock
08:22 Krock hi tenplus1
08:22 Krock really? that was insane
08:22 * tenplus1 is watching 15 sorting algorithms and how they work
08:22 Krock you should go for bogosort
08:22 tenplus1 watching that one now :P weird
08:22 Krock it's the best one out of them all
08:23 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECg  5:36
08:23 tenplus1 bogo sort is slow, have seen many fast ones :P
08:24 Krock bogo sort depends on "randomness"
08:24 tenplus1 lol, no wonder it's slow :D
08:25 tenplus1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeoCbJPuvSE 24 sorting at one time to show fastest :D
08:27 tenplus1 "Imagine they show Bogo sort and it correctly randomizes the list the first try. A month later everyone is now using Bogo sort and the world just fucking crashes, nothing is working anymore"
08:27 tenplus1 lololol
08:29 Krock std::sort is either inefficient or has got more data to process
08:30 tenplus1 they all have same data... Radix was fastest
08:35 tenplus1 I kinda wish there was an ARM board like the RaspPi that was LUA-centric...  instead of coming with python, supply a basic linux with LUA (and GUI toolkits) as well as Minetest for school usage :)
08:35 CWz Elloo tenplus1
08:35 tenplus1 hi CWz
08:36 CWz mob_monster fusions
08:36 tenplus1 ooh, whassat ?
08:37 CWz fusing to mobs into one. ie Dungeon_dirt_master, dirt_pumba
08:37 CWz eh boring
08:38 tenplus1 lol, would need someone to come up with models for that
08:40 tenplus1 it'd be nice if the forum had more Blender shares (or .x or .b3d) with textures and animation numbers to use for ANY mob api
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09:22 tenplus1 hi Megaf_
09:22 Megaf_ Morning tenplus1
09:22 tenplus1 o/
09:23 Megaf_ tenplus1, I'm making this subgame, with a bunch of mods that come from other people, so I just want to add other git repos inside the repo for my subgame
09:23 Megaf_ how do I do that?
09:23 tenplus1 no idea
09:23 * tenplus1 isnt the best git user :P
09:24 Megaf_ https://github.com/Megaf/Me​gafXPlore2/tree/master/mods
09:24 tenplus1 you may have to ask Krock how to do that
09:24 Krock Megaf_, add a submodule
09:24 Megaf_ submodule?
09:25 Krock https://github.com/blog/21​04-working-with-submodules or https://git-scm.com/book/e​n/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules (official doc)
09:26 Krock you can add "references" to git repositories with them. This means, you can't only include single directories or files - entire repos only
09:28 Megaf_ ok
09:28 Krock if you want to base on MTG, you could also fork and rename it to keep the reference for potential bugfixes
09:29 Krock but the more you modify, the more likely will rebase conflicts occur
09:29 Krock s/rebase//
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09:30 tenplus1 hi lisac
09:30 lisac hey tenplus1
09:30 Megaf_ kool, thanks Krock
09:30 Krock !next
09:30 ShadowBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
09:31 Megaf_ I imade a build for Pentium 4s btw
09:31 Megaf_ but 64 ones
09:36 Megaf_ whats the repo for minetest team again?
09:37 tenplus1 gihub.com/minetest-mods/
09:38 Megaf_ my repo is messed up already
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09:38 tenplus1 wb
09:39 lisac hey AMD APU people, any idea how to get AMDGPU-PRO to run on Kaveri?
09:39 lisac thanks ten
09:39 lisac VLC seems to crash after recompiling and running with AMDGPU
09:39 tenplus1 what's Kaveri ?
09:40 Megaf_ lisac, works just fine with AMDGPU here
09:40 lisac tenplus1, APU architecture
09:40 tenplus1 what Os you running ?
09:40 lisac Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "zesty" 17.04 • CPU: AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7, 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G (3.09GHz) • Memory: Physical: 6.6 GiB Total (5.0 GiB Free) Swap: 7.9 GiB Total (7.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 676.1 GB / 1.1 TB (413.4 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h • Uptime: 8m 51s
09:40 Megaf_ lisac, trying set output to vdpau or opengl
09:41 Megaf_ lisac, and you need the vdpau stuff
09:41 lisac okay, I'll try
09:41 tenplus1 also try using 4.13 kernel... has a LOT of AMD support added
09:41 lisac vdpau crashes
09:41 lisac tenplus1, I'm using 4.13. :D
09:41 lisac compiled it last night
09:41 Megaf_ mesa-vdpau-drivers vdpauinfo
09:42 Raven262 Hello everyone
09:42 tenplus1 hi raven
09:42 lisac hey Raven262
09:42 Raven262 Not you, lisac.
09:42 lisac hey that's rude
09:42 lisac I'll compile VLC with debug symbols and try then
09:42 Raven262 No, we already said hi to each other.
09:43 lisac under gdb
09:43 Megaf_ lisac, tried OpenGL output?
09:43 lisac yes, crashes once again
09:43 Megaf_ and I just use mpv
09:43 lisac warning: Corrupted shared library list: 0x7fffa0e0aa80 != 0x7fffa0e0b590
09:43 lisac wonder what that means.
09:43 Megaf_ I use mpv with vdpau as hwdec and output
09:44 tenplus1 same
09:44 tenplus1 mpv rocks, shame about the python dependency tho :(((
09:44 Megaf_ This video gonna be good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqjHLJea2jA
09:44 Megaf_ I didnt watch yet
09:45 Megaf_ lisac, my vlc output here [00007efba5d47b48] avcodec decoder: Using G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0 for hardware decoding.
09:45 Megaf_ again, you need to instal vdpau drivers
09:45 lisac lemme see if recompiling VLC works first. :D
09:46 Megaf_ man, the only way to use your amdgpu is uby using vdpau
09:46 Megaf_ vdpau is the decoder thing and stuff
09:46 Megaf_ abd you should have enabled it on your kernel compilation too
09:47 Megaf_ and this is how I watch youtube youtube-dl -f 137+140 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqjHLJea2jA
09:47 tenplus1 http://www.funnyjunk.com/If+programming+lan​guages+were+weapons/funny-pictures/6383167/
09:47 Megaf_ I hate youtube websit
09:47 lisac libvdpau1 is installed
09:48 Megaf_ I can probably watch 4k at 30 fps and 1080p at 60 fps if I download a youtube video but in the browser it can barerly play 420p
09:48 Megaf_ tenplus1, next time share this way please http://memestatic.fjcdn.com/large/​pictures/45/2a/452ade_6382723.jpg
09:48 tenplus1 browsers shoudl have a stream channel setting so you can output video's to your preferred program (vlc, mpv etc)
09:49 Megaf_ my computer came to a halt with so many things in that page
09:49 tenplus1 lol, click the .jpg link... it loads the exact same FULL webpage :)
09:51 Megaf_ not here...
09:51 Megaf_ here it loads... wait for it... the image!
09:51 tenplus1 here it jsut reloads the page... weird
09:51 Megaf_ tenplus1, by hte way, a LOLed when read about bash
09:51 tenplus1 :P
09:51 Megaf_ I agree
09:53 lisac VLC has tons of dependencies
09:54 Megaf_ it depends on Qt
09:54 Megaf_ just use mpv...
09:54 Megaf_ it plays everything and uses AMDGPU
09:55 lisac but it doesn't have subtitle downloader
09:56 Megaf_ so learn English
09:56 Megaf_ like I did
09:56 Megaf_ or Japanese, like my Ex did
09:57 Megaf_ xP
09:57 tenplus1 https://github.com/rumkex/osdb-mpv
09:58 Megaf_ how on Earth can Ryzen be so fast?
09:58 Megaf_ it running at 4GHz or less was quicker than Intel at 4.5 GHz
09:58 Megaf_ ins some tests
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09:59 tenplus1 I try to remove Python 2.7 and it wants to take off GIMP and mpv as well ?!?!?!
10:01 Megaf_ tenplus1, you must have GIMP plugins thatrequire python
10:01 tenplus1 I only have default gimp installation, nothing else
10:01 Megaf_ mpv is now a days kinda linked to youtube-dl, that requires python
10:01 tenplus1 it's weird that things require python2.7 even if they arent dependents
10:01 tenplus1 I dont have youtube-dl installed
10:03 tenplus1 libsmbclient relies on python2.6 and in turn mpv relies on libsmbclient... that's kinda silly
10:04 tenplus1 so much for porting everything across from python 2.x to 3.x for this release...
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10:04 tenplus1 wb thomas
10:04 Raven262 I just found out that i don't have GIMP installed?!
10:12 * rdococ feels sad
10:12 * rdococ hugs eleven
10:12 tenplus1 why you sad, also hi
10:12 * rdococ turns into a river
10:13 * tenplus1 brings in Justin Timberlake to sing
10:15 * Raven262 brings his tome of master necromancy.
10:15 rdococ lol
10:15 Raven262 Ahhhh, its so good that it makes dead alive
10:16 tenplus1 lolol
10:16 Calinou Megaf_: yeah, I'm 19 now
10:16 tenplus1 hi Cal
10:17 Calinou Megaf_: Qt Creator is pretty good, it mostly focuses on C/C++ support, with some Python/Nim support now
10:17 Calinou you *can* use it on non-Qt programs just fine :)
10:17 Calinou hi tenplus1 :)
10:17 Raven262 Hi Calinou
10:17 rdococ woof
10:17 Calinou hi Raven262
10:17 rdococ hi rdococ
10:18 Raven262 Is it better (easier) to start a new subgame from mt game or from mdt?
10:19 Krock what's mdt?
10:19 Krock minimal development/testing game?
10:19 Raven262 Yep
10:20 Megaf_ my computer can not play 4K, not on Linux at least
10:20 Raven262 I'm about to start a project of my own, and i don't need much of mt game items/nodes
10:20 Megaf_ it can play 1080p@60fps tho
10:21 Calinou I can play 1440p60, no point in 2160p60 because this is only a 1440p monitor :P
10:21 Calinou oh also, I disabled FPS caps in games, so input lag is lower
10:21 Calinou it makes the GPU noisier but it's acceptable (can't hear it much with headphones on)
10:21 Megaf_ here it caps at 60 FPS
10:21 Megaf_ no idea how to disable
10:21 Calinou it also makes me an astronaut in Quake 3, because "com_maxfps 333" reduces your gravity quite a bit
10:21 rdococ heh
10:21 Calinou …enough to use the jumppads for unintended purposes on q3dm17
10:22 Calinou Megaf_: disable vsync
10:22 Calinou if it's an open source driver, use "vblank_mode=0 <program name>" in a terminal
10:22 rdococ my laptop barely even reaches 30. nevermind 60
10:22 * Megaf_ will dtry, hold on
10:22 Shara Hello
10:23 Raven262 Hi Shara
10:23 Shara Hi Raven262
10:23 Megaf_ right now for some reason I cant reach 20 FPS
10:23 tenplus1 hi Shara :)
10:23 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/sauerb​raten_2017-09-10_12-23-05.png
10:23 Calinou my usual framerate in Sauerbraten with FPS cap off
10:23 Calinou (it can't go higher, due to an engine limitation)
10:24 Megaf_ something called upowerd is using quite a lot of CPU
10:24 Calinou in CS:GO, I'm always at 200 FPS at least, usually 300 FPS, with 500 FPS in map corners
10:24 Calinou everything maxed, 1440p :)
10:25 Calinou I'm debating bringing my primary or secondary monitor to a LAN party next week
10:25 Calinou the secondary monitor is 24" 1080p TN, the primary one is 32" 1440p AMVA
10:25 Megaf_ Calinou, still capped at 60 FPS
10:25 Calinou the TN one has lower input lag, but colors and viewing angles aren't as good, and it's only 1080p :p
10:25 rdococ at least you can reach 60 fps, Megaf_
10:26 Megaf_ playming minetest minimal subgame...
10:26 Megaf_ with view range to 20
10:26 Megaf_ Actually I think now 61 FPS is the max my laptop can push
10:26 Calinou in Minetest I have 120-300 FPS
10:26 Calinou (view range 250)
10:26 Calinou (shaders on, waving things on)
10:27 rdococ in Minetest with the minimal subgame, facing a corner, I get ~38 FPS
10:27 Megaf_ congratualtions, you are rich, and have money to buy stuff
10:27 rdococ when I'm not hiding in a corner, ~30 FPS
10:27 rdococ btw this is at 20 view range
10:28 Calinou I (or my parents) aren't that rich
10:29 Calinou we just lead a simple life style :P
10:29 rdococ "200 fps" "aren't that rich"
10:32 Megaf_ well, time to fix my subgame now
10:34 rdococ I might plan on just creating a mod to add an unlit torch
10:39 rdococ https://xkcd.com/137/
10:40 tenplus1 back lates
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10:40 Megaf_ Krock, I think I'm doing the submodule thing right http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/​MegafXPlore2/src/master/mods
10:41 Krock yes
10:41 Megaf_ rdococ, too long, can't read
10:41 rdococ I feel the urge to create a basic subgame for creative building
10:42 Megaf_ you can just join my subgame
10:42 rdococ it'd be based on the minimal development test, with areas and doors added.
10:42 Megaf_ :)
10:42 rdococ wait, does minimal have doors? :P
10:44 Megaf_ not sure
10:51 Megaf_ Krock, do you know the oposite for git submodule add?
10:52 Krock submodule remove?
10:58 Megaf_ Krock, deint...
10:59 Megaf_ I hate git
11:00 * Megaf_ manually edits .submodule, problem solved
11:02 rdococ lol
11:04 rdococ hm
11:04 rdococ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D​isambiguation_(disambiguation)
11:08 rdococ someone should develop a server that works with both 0.4.1x and 0.5.0
11:11 rdococ what.
11:11 rdococ apparently "minetest.check_player_privs" isn't expecting a table?
11:12 rdococ Megaf_ Krock eleven
11:13 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/blob/43d1f375d18a2fbc547a9b4f23d135​4d645856ca/builtin/game/misc.lua#L20
11:13 Krock table is valid
11:14 rdococ weird
11:15 rdococ don't think the name would be a table, would it?
11:15 rdococ this is an attempt at adding the areas mod into a minimal-based subgame btw
11:16 rdococ okay, so I'm pretty sure that "name" is a table, somehow
11:17 Megaf_ sofar, does lightning set things on fire?
11:17 rdococ ah, fixed it
11:21 rdococ wtf
11:21 rdococ I added creative to a copy of minimal, but it doesn't appear in the mod list?
11:24 rdococ ah
11:30 Calinou rdococ: https://en.wikipedia.org/w​iki/List_of_lists_of_lists
11:33 rdococ lol
11:34 rdococ the list of lists of lists is a list of lists itself :P
11:34 rdococ like the list of lists is a list
11:34 rdococ and the list of lists of lists is also a list
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11:40 Fixer ohi
11:43 Megaf_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_websites
11:43 Megaf_ Hi Fixer
11:46 rdococ meh
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12:08 Megaf_ $ du -hs mods/
12:08 Megaf_ 27Mmods/
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12:45 Megaf_ 2017-09-10 13:44:48: ERROR[Main]: ...es/MegafXPlore2/mods/minetest​-3d_armor/3d_armor/init.lua:206: attempt to call field 'player_register_model' (a nil value)
12:46 Megaf_ was 3D armour modified because 0.5 making it incompatible with 0.4?
12:50 Krock no, because the player functions were moved to player_api
12:58 rdococ yey
12:58 rdococ humanoids
12:59 rdococ lists of lists that do not contain themselves ;)
12:59 Megaf_ Krock, so yeah, new mods now breake compatibility with 0.4
12:59 Megaf_ breack
12:59 Megaf_ break
13:00 Megaf_ fuck this, I'm tired. Try to make something and MT just fuck up all the time
13:00 rdococ on the other hand, the set of lists containing only lists that do contain themselves has two, relatively well-defined members.
13:05 Megaf_ how do I make a subgame now?
13:06 rdococ create a subgame that contains itself
13:06 rdococ like a hard symlink
13:06 Megaf_ some mods only work with 0.4, other with only 0.5
13:06 rubenwardy Megaf_, Krock: the player API was done in a backwards compatible way
13:06 rubenwardy I tested using an unmodified mod
13:06 rdococ ^ that is true
13:06 rubenwardy Hmmm
13:07 rubenwardy I tested with a player skins mod but not 3darmour
13:08 Megaf_ ok, subgame -.5 works with engine 04
13:08 Megaf_ this is good
13:08 rdococ plauyer skiuns
13:12 Krock rubenwardy, but it doesn't work if newer mods try to access an older MTG version
13:12 rdococ forwards compatibility often requires time travel
13:13 Krock rdococ, you're thinking the wrong way. It's the mod's fault
13:14 Krock time travel is easy. just needs to be bigger inside
13:14 rdococ ahh
13:31 rdococ player_hugs
13:33 rdococ Krock: I tried adding the sfinv and creative mods to minimal... it kinda works but I can't switch tabs
13:34 Krock ping ruben
13:34 * rdococ pings rubenwardy
13:39 rdococ meh, it'd be nice to have 0.4.13+ compatibility for 0.5.0-dev, like 0.4.13+ had (optional) compatibility with 0.4.0x and 0.4.10-13
13:53 * rdococ pongs Krock
13:55 * Krock pings rdococ
13:55 rdococ lol
13:56 rubenwardy heh
13:56 rdococ I'd add a copper wiring system, but I'm bored :P
13:56 rubenwardy why are you adding things to minimal?
13:56 rdococ because I'm a noob :P
13:56 rubenwardy if it's for "improve minimal", then you should use the pre-sfinv version of creative
13:56 rubenwardy if you're trying to make your own subgame, don't use minimal
14:00 rdococ eh, true
14:00 rdococ hm
14:11 Megaf_ how do I limit the screwdriver use to admins?
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14:13 rdococ why would you want to do that...?
14:13 Megaf_ its buggy
14:13 Megaf_ now and then it gets buggy
14:13 rdococ ?
14:14 Megaf_ Ive seen player rotating other players locked chests, wiping its content. I see people rotating steel doors and getting in place where they were not supposed to
14:15 Megaf_ for how long do you play minetest? :)
14:16 rubenwardy Megaf_, modify the on_use code to call    minetest.check_player_privs
14:17 rdococ wait, seriously, screwdriver doesn't respect metadata?
14:17 rdococ or, rather, their inventories
14:18 Megaf_ screwdriver is made to screw things up rdococ
14:18 rdococ har har har
14:18 Megaf_ rm -rf mods/screwdriver
14:18 Megaf_ problem solved
14:18 rdococ meh
14:18 rdococ we need a better way to rotate, anyway
14:19 rdococ e.g. clicking on a face to rotate around that axis
14:19 rdococ how is rotation stored anyway?
14:21 rubenwardy screwdriver really shouldn't mess up metadata
14:21 rubenwardy I suggest filing a bug
14:24 Megaf_ I dont know if still does
14:24 Megaf_ I havend had it on my server for 5 years
14:27 rdococ I can't seem to rotate chests with stuff inside
14:27 Megaf_ maybe it was fixed then
14:27 rdococ meh, maybe.
14:27 rdococ tbh I'd like a mod which enables finer control over rotation
14:28 rdococ well, I mean, the screwdriver gives you fairly good control
14:28 rdococ hm
14:28 rdococ How is the 3D rotation of a node with facedir stored, then?
14:29 rdococ rubenwardy: ^
14:29 rubenwardy in paramtype2
14:29 rdococ I know rotation is stored in param2.
14:30 rdococ ah, found it
14:38 rdococ hm
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14:41 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/chro​me_2017-09-10_16-37-24.png
14:41 Calinou today I learned I'm mentioned in the ET:Legacy hall of fame
14:41 Calinou I had no idea :D
14:41 Calinou I just checked it out of the blue
14:44 rdococ heh
14:48 rdococ hm
14:52 lisac congratulations Calinou :)
14:52 lisac rebooting once again
15:02 Fixer nice
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15:18 Calinou heh, I made the Open Hardware Monitor temperature graph go kaboom
15:18 Calinou I zoomed out until the scale was from -1e+308 to 1e+308 or something
15:19 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/OpenHardwa​reMonitor_2017-09-10_17-19-07.png
15:19 Calinou this is what happens after restarting :|
15:21 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/Cod​e_2017-09-10_17-21-08.png
15:21 Calinou things indeed went quite weird :)
15:35 Krock backwards counting time on the x axis?
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15:37 IhrFussel Updating the nametag of a player 1 time takes ~ 13 ms on my dualcore ... doing it 5 times doesn't increase the time however... even at 10 times it still says 13 ms ... when I do 20 times it goes up to 35 ms
15:39 Calinou Krock: yeah, it's a graph showing temperature in the past
15:55 Krock IhrFussel, trying to do an SQL injection on your profile search box but only managed yet to write HTML code
15:55 Krock did you secure it or would there be a leak?
15:55 Krock asking because `tesewr52t` gives you interesting results
16:05 IhrFussel Krock, the profile page is not connected to any database so you can give up there =P
16:06 Krock ah.. direct access to the auth.txt file?
16:09 IhrFussel Nope, profiles are separate files on the server, shouldn't be possible to access any sensible info there
16:10 Wayward_One Hi all
16:10 IhrFussel But more interesting would be the chat message field itself which you can only access when you are logged in usually but I can do an exception
16:14 * Wayward_One is dodging tornadoes
16:25 rdococ if you have a repo in a repo, how would you git pull the inner repo?
16:25 rubenwardy submodule update
16:25 rubenwardy or just navigate to it and git pull
16:26 rdococ the latter doesn't work
16:26 rdococ it ends up pulling from the outer repo
16:27 rdococ wait
16:30 rdococ wtf
16:30 rdococ I'm defining a function with one parameter, and it expects two
16:31 rdococ okay, wtf
16:32 rdococ I define a function in lua, and then the stack traceback suggests it's a C function
16:38 Megaf_ Im gona to soon need more testers for my windows build
16:38 Megaf_ this time a build with very little optimization, should run on any windows XP+ with any 64 bit CPU
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16:52 rdococ I have a kinda working git mod
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17:20 Megaf_ if you want to try my subgame or my minetest build with the subgame. http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/MegafXPlore2/releases
17:21 rdococ who ever thought of creating a mob that dropped SAND?! that spawns IN DESERTS?! madness
17:29 Megaf_ totally insane!
17:31 IhrFussel Can you modify multiple HUD parameters at once? Like text and number?
17:33 Krock by removing and re-adding the hud. yes.
17:39 rdococ ew
17:40 rubenwardy HUD sucks
17:40 rdococ agreed
17:40 rubenwardy as an API, as a network protocol, as a HUD (scaling)
17:40 rubenwardy hudkit makes the API slightly better
18:01 rubenwardy https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1742​5030_1593792030645940_4875831112202169679_n.jpg?oh​=ce6d16a8894218a7db7eebca0ce04be9&amp;oe=5A1DE951
18:01 rubenwardy that's Kenney O_o
18:02 rdococ I don't get why Microsoft calls their digital trashing system "Recycle Bin". What, am I going to recycle these files into some other files?
18:02 Raven262 No, you are recycling space that they have used.
18:03 rdococ Okay, sure, I'll be recycling the /space/ the file is stored in, but not the da-nevermind, you said it.
18:03 rdococ It still doesn't make sense for an end-user, though.
18:03 Raven262 Megaf_, I can't run that game of yours, does it require something more that a "git clone"?
18:04 Raven262 I don't seem to be getting the whole thing.
18:04 Raven262 And I am a noob in these stuff.
18:04 rdococ heh
18:04 Raven262 I mean it is either that or the xdecor doesn't have the init.lua
18:06 rubenwardy grr
18:06 rubenwardy this guy keeps PMing me for help
18:07 rubenwardy his latest question is "what is wrong with    if name = 'singleplayer' then
18:10 Raven262 if name = 'singleplayer' then minetest.chat_send_all("You are all alone in this world.") else minetest.shut_up end
18:11 Megaf_ Raven262, download the zip
18:11 Megaf_ Raven262, theres to zips in the link I posted
18:11 Megaf_ one is just the subgame, that you add to your current minetest
18:11 Megaf_ and the other is the full game
18:11 Megaf_ for windows
18:12 rubenwardy How useful would people find it for Minetest to pause when the window location is lost?
18:12 rdococ lol
18:12 Raven262 I need the subgame, of course. I downloaded the zip, got same error.
18:12 rdococ you need two equality signs. = is assignment. :P
18:13 rdococ hm, I wonder if any language uses = for both
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18:13 * Raven262 never intended to use that code. If he did, he would probably find that out (or would die trying to).
18:13 nerzhul sorry guys, i'm not very active this week, i'm ill and very busy
18:13 rdococ heh
18:13 Megaf_ nerzhul, wish you a quick recovery
18:13 Megaf_ honest wishes man
18:13 nerzhul i hope so, i have some homework to do :p
18:13 rdococ also, minetest.shut_up? that is not even a function
18:13 Raven262 rdococ, do we need one?
18:13 nerzhul and i want to finish my mod channel PR for CSM hud red-001 :D
18:13 rdococ lol
18:14 rdococ Raven262: not really
18:14 rubenwardy nerzhul, get well soon
18:14 rdococ I have a lua CSM I use to execute arbitrary lua code
18:14 nerzhul it's not very secure, but anyway
18:16 rdococ it's clientside, though
18:17 rdococ oh
18:17 rdococ you mean your mod channel
18:18 nerzhul yeah good protocol channels, not hack :p
18:19 rdococ hm
18:19 rdococ is there a way to get the node the player is pointing at in a CSM?
18:20 Krock raycast.next or smth like this
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18:27 Megaf_ 3 people on my server, that must be a record this year...
18:27 Krock grats
18:28 * Shara hands Megaf_ some of her players
18:28 rdococ ah
18:28 Megaf_ nah, Im cool
18:28 rdococ the ray object
18:28 Megaf_ :P
18:28 Megaf_ one of this player have been playing on my servers for that past 6 years
18:29 Megaf_ I wouldnt exchange her alone for 200 new players
18:29 Shara I wasn't expecting anything back. You can just have them :)
18:29 Megaf_ hah
18:29 Megaf_ still, you may keep them
18:29 Megaf_ I could have you tho
18:29 * Megaf_ blushes and hides
18:29 * Shara sighs
18:29 Shara I try to be nice...
18:30 Megaf_ I mean, as a player
18:30 sofar Megaf_: there's a 1/1000 chance or so that lightning will create a spreading fire node, so yes
18:30 Megaf_ several server admins join there now and then
18:30 Shara I don't have much time though.
18:30 Megaf_ sofar, even if the setting is disabled in the game?
18:31 Megaf_ I mean
18:31 Shara The only server other than my own that I ever play on at the moment is Fussel's server, and even that is rare right now :(
18:31 sofar don't remember, maybe, maybe not?
18:31 sofar depends on fire spreading ABM I guess
18:32 Megaf_ sofar, http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/MegafX​Plore2/src/master/minetest.conf#L3
18:32 Megaf_ enable_fire = false
18:49 Fixer *,,,,,*
18:51 Megaf_ Raven262, so again, just download the zip from http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/MegafXPlore2/releases
18:51 Megaf_ if you want to clone the subgame, then you need to do git clone --depth=1 --recursive http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/MegafXPlore2
18:52 Raven262 Yeah, i most likely forgot the --recursive :P
18:53 Raven262 Thanks, Megaf_, it works now.
18:53 Megaf_ This is cool, binary effect on gimp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJQwe2PUzAo
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19:26 rdococ hm
19:26 rdococ so a permanent flame doesn't spread?
19:41 rubenwardy it does
19:41 rubenwardy fire is sllooooowww though
19:57 rdococ ah
19:58 rdococ idea: fake water source. it wouldn't be a liquid node, but it'd look like and have physics similar to that of water.
19:59 rdococ *physics as in player physics. it wouldn't flow.
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20:17 rdococ rubenwardy: ^
20:18 rdococ maybe ladder physics
20:48 Fixer SOO MOOOOOVE
20:49 Fixer rubenwardy: i had to extinguish some forest fires in minetest, and I have to say fire spread IS DAMN FAST
20:49 Fixer rubenwardy: also, have you looked at that gui shifting problem?
20:54 Fixer rubenwardy: i've looked into engine itself, and it seems shifted even in 0.4.15-dev, but I remember it was ok back then so probably it is mod problem itself
20:56 Fixer TIME IS RUNNING OUT
20:59 rdococ lol
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21:12 Fixer found faulty commit for hudbars
21:28 Fixer https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=18441 L_O_L
21:30 nerzhul mlol
21:31 rdococ fake water is going along nicely, especially with stairsplus support
21:31 rdococ currently the mod name is "jelly", but I might change that
21:47 Megaf_ Meh, I got some smoked salmon today, eat everything already
21:47 Megaf_ salmon so good
21:48 rdococ salmon should be in minetest
21:48 rdococ or rather, be a minetest mod :P
21:50 Megaf_ we have some fish mods for Minetest
22:00 Megaf_ I kinda want to play Portal after watching the video aUWU8CWI6g0 on youtube
22:00 Megaf_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUWU8CWI6g0
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22:21 Fixer damn
22:21 Fixer some minetest server player builds are horrifying, like back to 2011
22:23 Megaf so fix them
22:23 rdococ can I see pictures?
22:23 Megaf you are not called Fixer for not reason, are you?
22:23 Megaf On my server we had some pretty ugly builds, like cobble boxes, I rebuilt some, others I demolished
22:24 Fixer Megaf: grant admin and WE rights and I will wipe out 95% of everything
22:24 Megaf are the area protected?
22:24 Fixer nope
22:24 Megaf But honestly, does it matter?
22:24 Fixer Megaf: OCD
22:24 Megaf I actually think is cool having this bit of history and seeing how things evolved
22:25 Megaf Fixer, then find other server :P
22:25 Fixer Megaf: sure
22:26 Megaf Speaking of servers, I kinda want to spin a new server
22:26 Fixer ?
22:26 Megaf make a new one
22:27 Fixer D E T A I L S
22:28 Megaf Fixer, well, it would be survival mode, almost vanilla Minetest, but with some very stable mods added to it
22:28 Megaf in other words, it would run my new subgame
22:28 Megaf http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/MegafXPlore2/releases
22:28 Megaf that ^
22:28 rubenwardy crap
22:29 rubenwardy I accidentally posted a video publicly
22:29 Megaf rubenwardy, take it down
22:29 Megaf or just reset the privacy settings
22:29 Megaf rubenwardy, where did you put it?
22:30 rubenwardy on youtube
22:30 rubenwardy it's half complete, didn't want to post it yet
22:30 rubenwardy was just showing to a friend
22:30 Megaf just change privacy settings
22:30 rubenwardy yeah, done
22:36 Fixer Exploring just test
22:43 Fixer hey
22:44 Fixer are there mods to move chests with their contents?
22:44 Megaf nope
22:44 Megaf but we have a wifi chest from more_chests that have the same content in all wifi chests
22:44 Megaf basically it's content are relative to the player that opens it
22:45 Megaf so no matter who placed the chest, and where it was placed, all the time you open it, you will see the same thing
22:45 Fixer no
22:46 Fixer lets say I want to move chest to other location, so I just dig it with special tool and it is saved to my inventory with its contents
22:46 Megaf I don't know if it can be done
22:46 Megaf When I needed to do that I'd use pipeworks
23:02 rdococ I created a chest-like node that you could dig while they had items inside. The items would be saved in the item, and when placed again you'd get the items back.
23:08 Fixer found a thing
23:08 Fixer technic/wrench
23:08 Fixer works only on your stuff though, needs improving for admins
23:11 Fixer https://github.com/minetes​t-mods/technic/issues/392 if someone is interested
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23:38 Fixer Calinou: maptools: https://i.imgur.com/uW4AnGU.png
23:39 Fixer Calinou: nodeupdate also needs updating in that mod
23:40 Calinou Fixer: I see, can you create issues, please?
23:40 Calinou (so that I remember)
23:40 Fixer yep
23:40 Calinou on https://github.com/minetest-mods/maptools
23:40 bigfoot547 I'd rather fix issues than create them ;)
23:40 bigfoot547 kik
23:40 Fixer Calinou: admin pick can dig chests with stuff, right?
23:41 Calinou yes, but only the one without drops (the default one)
23:41 Fixer ok
23:44 Fixer Calinou: done
23:45 Calinou thanks :)
23:45 Fixer nodeupdate is deprecated iirc
23:46 rubenwardy even more so
23:47 rubenwardy it's been removed
23:47 Calinou yeah
23:48 Calinou can I keep compatibility with 0.4.16 *and* 0.5.0-dev with one codebase, though?
23:48 rubenwardy yeah, the new node update works on both
23:48 Fixer rubenwardy: was this announced somewhere?
23:49 Fixer rubenwardy: did a small search in my local repo of nodeupdate function: https://pastebin.com/raw/namAt0aM
23:50 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/c0dac4d9284b61c5ff411cbd45786ed14c200f37
23:51 rubenwardy oh no, it's this one https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/b8f06ad37e142004335e8c2ffaec5fe73b620196
23:51 Fixer memememes https://github.com/search?q=filename%3A%22init.lu​a%22+nodeupdate&amp;type=Code&amp;utf8=%E2%9C%93
23:52 rubenwardy heh
23:52 rubenwardy I don't really see the need to remove it
23:52 rubenwardy you basically get it for free
23:52 rubenwardy backwards compatibility that is
23:57 Fixer 68 pages of code that has nodeupdate https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.co​m/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/12357700_464​469330405959_1963486238_n.jpg?ig_cache_​key=MTEzNzMwMzY5MjA2NDM3NjIzNA%3D%3D.2
23:58 Fixer nah
23:58 Fixer over 100 pages
23:58 Fixer that was init.lua search only
23:58 Fixer .___________.

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