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Time Nick Message
00:00 berome ?Am I understandable ?
00:00 moltenbot joined #minetest
00:01 marktraceur berome: More than understandable, very well-spoken I'd say
00:01 moltenbot joined #minetest
00:01 berome cool, good news !
00:01 iqualfragile !help
00:01 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date
00:02 marktraceur iqualfragile: Why.
00:02 iqualfragile why what?
00:02 marktraceur iqualfragile: Why did you bring ANOTHER BOT into this channel?
00:02 iqualfragile are you referring to iglooboot?
00:02 or to minetestbot?
00:03 OldCoder How many bots are there?
00:03 iqualfragile one to two
00:03 iglooboot was just me and i answered like a bot would
00:04 marktraceur
00:04 well, i want my bot to be usefull, so what features should it have?
00:05 sfan5[iPod] joined #minetest
00:05 OldCoder iqualfragile, absence
00:05 That would be a good one
00:05 :-)
00:05 * OldCoder sighs
00:05 OldCoder Never mind. Sorry.
00:05 berome lol
00:05 OldCoder But bots apparently mean dissension
00:06 iqualfragile dissension?
00:06 OldCoder I probably misspelled that
00:06 iqualfragile i just did not know the word, looked it up
00:07 berome bots MUST talk when "silence" is here for "long" time, imo
00:07 marktraceur iqualfragile: There are already multiple bots vying for attention here. Please don't add to that.
00:07 iqualfragile can you name some?
00:07 marktraceur iqualfragile: Since MinetestBot was sfan5's creation, I figure we should give it priority
00:08 iqualfragile well, he saw me creating moltenbot yesterday evening
00:08 moltenbot Hi, iqualfragile
00:08 iqualfragile and then used some python-framework to make one, too
00:10 so: wich features would be nice for a bot in a minetest-channel?
00:10 marktraceur iqualfragile: I agree with absence.
00:10 iqualfragile well, besides absence
00:11 marktraceur iqualfragile: Barring that, centralization. Please talk to sfan5 about working on his bot, rather than adding a new one.
00:11 iqualfragile: Also, testing it somewhere else is better.
00:11 iqualfragile again: i was here first
00:11 that was quite a low-quality-translation
00:12 i did not add a new one
00:12 sfan5 added a new one
00:12 Muadtralk is there any reason for a minetest bot when there are so many people on at all hours willing to help?
00:13 or at least try to help
00:14 iqualfragile i guess !up can be usefull
00:14 marktraceur Muadtralk: It helps us type less
00:14 iqualfragile especialy for people behind firewalls or strange stuffs
00:14 marktraceur iqualfragile: Regardless of who came first, he's an op and (to my knowledge) you aren't
00:14 iqualfragile -.-
00:15 my bot is way cooler
00:15 its written in bash
00:15 * marktraceur hasn't seen evidence of that
00:15 marktraceur Yeah, you're not helping your case
00:15 Muadtralk neither of your bots are cool
00:15 iqualfragile including the network
00:19 the bots are just here for testing anyways
00:20 but if we decide to keep one, what features would you expect?
00:20 OldCoder iqualfragile, I've got one of my own...
00:21 marktraceur iqualfragile: I would expect the ability to let people add, remove, and alias keys on their own.
00:21 iqualfragile: See e.g. wikibots.
00:21 OldCoder She does google, greetings, time in foreign lands, math calculations, and knows 70 pages of jokes.
00:21 I'll add the server support stuff and maybe she can gateway IRC to MT chat
00:22 * marktraceur thinks it's nearly time to /part again
00:22 iqualfragile as this channel is out of operators for quite some time i thought about a vote-kick feature
00:22 OldCoder What is /part for the faint of heart? Is /part black art?
00:22 iqualfragile, What?
00:22 We have ops now
00:22 iqualfragile yeah, but not allways
00:22 OldCoder They should encourage mediate where possible
00:22 Heh
00:23 I am not always paying attention but I am sometimes here 16 hours a day
00:23 iqualfragile i know
00:23 but that one would help your relax
00:23 OldCoder Relax heh
00:23 Not likely
00:23 But thanks
00:23 marktraceur OldCoder: /part is for leaving channels
00:23 OldCoder Why?
00:23 Don't leave
00:23 We'd grieve
00:24 :-)
00:24 marktraceur OldCoder: If there are going to be upwards of three bots in this channel, it would be stupid to stay.
00:24 OldCoder marktraceur, there won't be
00:24 iqualfragile if someone is offended by someone else he says !votekick marktraceur
00:24 OldCoder I may subsume the others into mine
00:24 iqualfragile, use a fake name please for your example
00:24 marktraceur *especially* if they all imitate the same ridiculous features like Twitter, Google, etc.
00:24 OldCoder Yep
00:24 Mine are more cool
00:24 iqualfragile and then the people in the channel can say !votekick yes or !votekick no
00:25 OldCoder iqualfragile, we understand the notion
00:25 It is not a magic potion
00:25 It is clear
00:25 No beer
00:25 marktraceur OldCoder: Google, math, and jokes all seem useless to me.
00:25 NakedFury maybe add a show youtube video names when someone posts a link?
00:25 OldCoder is needed to understand it
00:25 NakedFury, Yep
00:25 marktraceur, I have more than that
00:25 And I put 70 pages of humor into her
00:25 She is quite popular in some circles
00:25 iqualfragile and if at least some percentage of the channel-inhabitants vote and more then 50% vote for kick he gets kicked
00:25 OldCoder iqualfragile, We get it
00:26 NakedFury and like that sfanbot a minetest wiki command will be usefull
00:26 marktraceur Well, time in other places and greetings both seem like things anyone can do without a bot.
00:26 OldCoder marktraceur, time is quite useful for me. I deal with folks around the globe.
00:26 iqualfragile nah, the time in other places is usefull
00:26 OldCoder greetings agreed
00:26 Muadtralk hmmm
00:26 iqualfragile but googling?
00:26 marktraceur OldCoder: And for that purpose, you learn to use UTC offsets and basic arithmetic.
00:26 iqualfragile and an in-chat-wiki does not seem to be a great ide
00:26 OldCoder marktraceur, I am in about 75 channels these days
00:27 Counting PM. Kind of busy as you are too!
00:27 You know time is valuable
00:27 marktraceur OldCoder: If it takes you time to add 7 hours to the current time, you maybe shouldn't be in 70+ channels
00:27 OldCoder marktraceur, thank you
00:28 This never would have occurred to me
00:28 :p
00:28 marktraceur, I don't always remember who is in what timezone
00:28 I like doing !time cairo etc.
00:28 It's fast
00:29 I talk to dozens of people. Wish to know when they are. As well as where.
00:30 marktraceur OldCoder: TZ="Cairo" date
00:31 OldCoder Takes longer to type
00:31 marktraceur Not if you alias it
00:31 OldCoder Hmm
00:31 marktraceur Or write a quick bash script that will take TZ as an argument
00:31 OldCoder Does TZ="Baconville, NY" date work?
00:32 marktraceur Probably not so simply, but I could be wrong
00:32 OldCoder I prefer simple
00:32 * marktraceur sighs
00:32 marktraceur Well, let me know when the timezone bot has joined.
00:33 OldCoder No rush
00:33 There will be no horde of bots. The thoughts of this are distressing. Bots are nots to be crowded.
00:35 marktraceur OldCoder: No, no rush at all, because the second we have a bot that can do timezones, I'm leaving, because it means that the channel has very little remaining merit
00:36 NakedFury just because there is a bot doesnt mean you have to use it
00:36 and old coder can just make the commands obscure so only he knows them
00:36 iqualfragile !die
00:37 marktraceur It's less about the usefulness of the bot and more about the usefulness of the people who saw a need for such a thing
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00:37 OldCoder marktraceur, you are too strict. I will make you a deal. We will add features you wish.
00:37 Is this acceptable?
00:37 iqualfragile !date cairo
00:37 moltenbot Sa 1. Dez 01:37:40 CET 2012
00:37 iqualfragile damn
00:37 OldCoder iqualfragile, Please test elsewhere
00:38 iqualfragile allright
00:38 marktraceur OldCoder: I'm not enforcing anything.
00:38 OldCoder: You add whatever you'd like, and I'll react how I think I should.
00:39 OldCoder marktraceur, It is a polite suggestion. She will talk about GNU/Linux. There will be a !stallman command if you like.
00:39 NakedFury can the bot whisper you when you do those commands so it doesnt spam the channel? also add preventive methods from repeting use like with today
00:40 OldCoder NakedFury, agreed!
00:40 NakedFury so kikaz cant spam us with it
00:40 OldCoder Yep
00:40 Should be time limited
00:41 iqualfragile i have just added a bit of code so i can talk to it in private
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00:43 OldCoder iqualfragile, that is good of you
00:43 iqualfragile oldcoder: added a timezone-feature
00:43 !date cairo
00:43 moltenbot Sa 1. Dez 00:43:58 cairo 2012
00:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, now we need !stallman command or something
00:44 iqualfragile what should it do
00:44 OldCoder I was half joking but let me ask...
00:44 iqualfragile search for prop. content in the channel?
00:44 OldCoder Ah
00:44 He left
00:44 :-(
00:44 I'll ask him if he comes back
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00:49 iqualfragile i guess im gone go& sleep now, good night
00:51 OldCoder anunakki, Hi!
00:53 iqualfragile !die and good night everybod
00:59 berome ok, good nignt guys ! glad to read you !
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01:16 Doc22_ Hey guys
01:16 Kick Doc22
01:16 i double logged
01:16 lol
01:16 again
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01:18 Doc22_ VanessaE can you give me link to version 4.4
01:18 and hey babyface1031
01:18 babyface1031 hey Doc22_
01:18 Doc22_ hey
01:19 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi! Doc22 you 2
01:19 Doc22_ hey
01:19 oc can yo point me to 4.4
01:19 babyface1031 hey OldCoder
01:19 Doc22_ you*
01:19 I need the download for it
01:21 OldCoder where is download for 4.4
01:21 I tried google
01:21 and main site
01:22 NakedFury give me a sexc
01:22 sec
01:22 Doc22_ ok
01:22 thanks
01:22 and are you interested in making mesecons machines
01:22 I will host
01:22 NakedFury http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minet[…]-655bb52-win32.7z
01:22 Doc22_ thanks
01:23 OldCoder Doc22, I don't do 4.4 yet
01:23 Doc22_ o
01:23 ok
01:23 would you do it on 4.3
01:23 NakedFury not a mesecon engineer. I mostly build in old coders server.   you can play 0.4.3 on 0.4.4
01:23 Doc22_ all right
01:25 kaeza are you interested in making mesecons machines?
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01:40 NakedFury old coder server 30k is down I think
01:45 OldCoder NakedFury, Need to omit space for me to see that
01:45 Checking now
01:45 17:23:31: ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd not found
01:45 NakedFury, I have been getting those recently
01:45 Advice from people would be appreciated
01:45 Hold on
01:45 I'll fix it
01:50
01:50 NakedFury ok im on standby then
01:50 OldCoder NakedFury, still working
01:50 See error abovfe
01:50 See error above
01:51 NakedFury we need an error wiki, it would explain all errors the game can produce
01:51 Doc22_ yeah
01:52 NakedFury all I can see from that error is perhaps something about player
01:53 RealBadAngel propably some1 changed somethin there lately
01:53 and commited a bug
01:54 OldCoder
01:54 NakedFury, Done
01:54 NakedFury, it works now
01:54 RealBadAngel in deSerialize method in player function
01:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, files are truncated
01:54 to zero on shutdown
01:54 That is what is happening
01:54 RealBadAngel, BTW glad to see you
01:55 RealBadAngel u2
01:55 its not about files
01:55 deserialize is an internal function to convert contenst to string
01:56 well, back actually
01:56 from string back to the structure
01:57 but error can be on both ends
01:57 OldCoder Yep
01:57 But some files are going to zero length
01:57 Replacing them usually fixes the problem
01:58 RealBadAngel its about players skins?
02:00 if a file is zeroed propably creating it, read serialize failed
02:00 so like i started
02:00 so deserialize can not proceed
02:09 OldCoder Hmm
02:09 I suspect there is a problem with shutdown
02:09 That resets the files
02:09 I have already encountered this with env_meta.txt
02:10 Added a workaround for that. May build in a fix for the players as well.
02:19 Dogzilla131 does a mining laser do affect to another person or player
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02:26 Doc22_ idk
02:26 wanna play with me Dogzilla131
02:26 on my server
02:26 worldedit, mesecons
02:30 Dogzilla131 yeah
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02:35 Doc22_ ok
02:35 ill pm u ip
02:36 NekoGloop Or we can /whois Doc22_
02:36 Doc22_ lol
02:36 Dogzilla131 port and adress
02:36 Doc22_ i pmed it
02:36 NekoGloop Webchat has a nasty habit of revealing your ip address to whoever wants it.
02:48 Gah. Someone say something dammit.
02:49 OldCoder Hi
02:49 ^ Something
02:49 Quiet tonight!
02:49 NekoGloop, how are you?
02:49 NekoGloop Bored.
02:49 Hopefully the server for this FPS doesnt lag like hell now ^^"
02:50 Earlier today i couldnt even join a game.
02:56 OldCoder k
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03:17 kaeza NekoGloop: what are you playing?
03:19 NekoGloop kaeza: Shadowgun: Deadzone
03:19 kaeza oh
03:20 nvm
03:20 I want to play some CS 1.6
03:20 but on my favs there are only bots at this hour
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04:07 jordan4ibanez Found weird issue
04:07 on_rightclick(self, clicker)
04:07 which ever you put first is the only one that is used
04:07 wether it be self or clicker, one or the other, it's strange
04:08 kaeza night ppl
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04:09 jordan4ibanez Never mind I'm just retarded
04:14 Doc22_ im getting a nasty bug
04:14 its with mesecons wire crossing
04:18 hrmm ill try rebuilding it
04:18 its so strange...
04:18 something about content-ignore
04:18 Dogzilla131 this is random, but who knows slender man is
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04:25 Doc22_ google him
04:25 i think hes from a game
04:25 lol
04:27 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTRb6-C-9rg
04:38 Dogzilla131 i know him, im asking you'all
04:55 jordan4ibanez Heyguiseguesswhat
04:58 BOATS ALPHA 1 ARE ALMOST DUNNNNNNNNNN
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05:37 jordan4ibanez Wow making this was easier than i thought
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05:50 bulletrulz who wants to be in my review of minetest 0.4.4?
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06:22 jordan4ibanez lol webchat works on xbox
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06:37 OldCoder Good night
06:37 bulletrulz night
06:38 Calinou lolxbox
06:40 * VanessaE peeks in
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06:53 Calinou hi
06:53 VanessaE morning
06:53 Calinou 20 days until minetest 1.0 :D
06:54 VanessaE heh
06:54 ecube :O
07:13 VanessaE ok, bedtime
07:13 night all.
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07:21 Ragnar_ hi
07:22 hi VanessaE
07:23 hi Sfan!
07:40 sfan5 .sv
07:40 MinetestBot sfan5: dise's server [0.4.3] | dise-minetest.no-ip.org:30000   up (84.915%)
07:41 RealBadAngel .sv
07:41 MinetestBot RealBadAngel: PlanetMinetest Creative Server | planetminetest.com:30000   down
07:41 RealBadAngel cool
07:43 sfan5: can you compile this for windows? https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest
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08:06 Calinou someone's using windows
08:06 RealBadAngel strange, but some folks still does ;)
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08:10 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/823429[…]4.x-changelog.txt < changelog updated
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08:22 * Jordach is getting 2mb+ on a torrent#
08:23 Calinou loltorrents
08:23 seems legit, what are you torrenting? :P
08:24 Jordach Calinou - on occasion utorrrent suggests free album releases
08:24 Calinou utorrent is adware
08:24 Jordach (which the artists partner with them)
08:25 Calinou - DIGAF
08:25 Calinou no, but i do.
08:25 Jordach lol.
08:25 Calinou use ubuntu and see, you will give a fuff :>
08:26 Jordach ike
08:26 ikr
08:26 ubuntu needs a colonoscopy
08:27 (laymans terms: removing all the shit inside)
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08:31 * Calinou got his 154 comment karma back on reddit
08:31 Calinou people keep hating on me whenever I talk about steam, 2 weeks ago I did a post which had -20 points
08:31 :>
08:32 Jordach Calinou - be fair, some of the best games are coming to linux
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08:34 Jordach and let the flooding begin
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08:37 sfan5 I have 145 comment karma :(
08:38 Jordach lolReddit
08:39 KikaRz I tahre
08:39 how are yu pipolZ?
08:40 Jordach huh, no freaking way! A MC GPL LICENSED TOOL!
08:40 KikaRz ИФФФ
08:40 ©мþ
08:42 Calinou Jordach> Calinou - be fair, some of the best games are coming to linux
08:42 drm'd proprieary games != best games
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09:22 Jordach thomas - having irc problems?
09:23 thomas not anymore
09:23 irssi was being an ass
09:24 Jordach ah
09:25 thomas it decided it didn't like joining 120 channels on connect
09:25 so i had to tinkier with the lag timeout.
09:25 tinker even
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09:25 Jordach <thomas> it decided it didn't like joining 120 channels on connect. 120 channels!?!
09:26 oh my
09:26 thomas mhmm
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09:29 Ragnar_ hi
09:30 Zeg9 Hi
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09:31 Ragnar_ oh hey zeg :D
09:31 im making a webpage for PythonServ...
09:31 wanna help?
09:31 * Jordach is working on another texture pack
09:31 * Ragnar_ is waiting forward to it
09:32 Ragnar_ zeg!
09:32 Zeg9: Hey you wanna help me with my webpage?
09:33 Zeg9 I could
09:33 Ragnar_ great :D
09:33 1. open Minetest, 2. Make a picture of the sunset :D
09:33 without your HUD!
09:33 Zeg9 Ok, wait
09:33 Ragnar_ can you?
09:33 thanks :D
09:33 Zeg9 What size?
09:34 Ragnar_ any...
09:34 im gonna use it as a banner, so im gonna scale it myself :D
09:46 Jordach lol, netsplit
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09:47 KikaRz poor VanessaE
09:48 Welcome Back!
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09:57 Jordach good morning celeron55
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10:07 KikaRz good morning ~perttu (celeron55)
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10:25 KikaRz Going to turn on my server 0.4.4
10:25 Ragnar_ hi KikaRz
10:27 KikaRz hi Ragnar_
10:27 Ragnar_ hey KikaRz...you wanna cyber than xD
10:28 KikaRz what?
10:28 cyber what?
10:28 Ragnar_ LOL
10:28 youre...21, 22?
10:28 and you dont know what cyber-ing is :d
10:29 KikaRz lol
10:29 22
10:31 Ragnar_ John_Minetest!
10:31 john_minetest hi
10:31 KikaRz Ragnar_ wants to cyber with  you
10:31 .
10:31 xd
10:31 Ragnar_ NO!
10:31 i wanted to ask, that why did he name his game Project Perabird...
10:31 Zeg9 my*
10:32 Ragnar_ really?
10:32 why do i have to ask john then :d
10:33 Zeg9 Because the name cames from him
10:33 lol
10:33 Ragnar_ ow :D
10:33 Zeg9 came*
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10:35 KikaRz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3910
10:35 This mod sucks.
10:35 sorry for teelling this
10:38 Jordach hello john_minetest
10:39 john_minetest hi
10:41 Ragnar_ hi Jordach
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10:43 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:43 john_minetest hi
10:46 KikaRz Jordach
10:46 you cheater...
10:46 you did a x-ray texture pack
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10:46 KikaRz http://minetest.com/2012/03/xray-by-jordach/
10:46 Jordach hey PilzAdam
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11:24 KikaRz hey
11:24 whats lava source giveme id?
11:25 and fire?
11:25 going to test one thing in my server
11:25 PilzAdam default:lava_source fire:basic_flame
11:26 KikaRz error: cannot  give an unknown item
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11:27 KikaRz going to find a bucket of lava
11:32 i guess i go t a lava protection
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11:55 KikaRz who its johny ingame?
11:55 17:55:54: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
11:55 In thread b77a1700:
11:55 /root/minetest-0.4.3/src/main.cpp:1741: int main(int, char**): Assertion '0' failed.
11:55 Debug stacks:
11:55 DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD b77a1700:
11:55 #0  int main(int, char**)
11:55 (Leftover data: #1  Dedicated server branch)
11:55 (Leftover data: #2  virtual void ServerMap::save(ModifiedState))
11:55 (Leftover data: #3  virtual void ServerMap::saveBlock(MapBlock*))
11:55 (Leftover data: #4  void ItemStack::serialize(std::ostream&) const)
11:55 Aborted
11:55 hate that bugs
11:59 got a problem
12:01 who's there?
12:01 Zeg9?
12:04 john_minetest coming
12:08 berome kikaRz:(you are talking about Zegaton ?)
12:08 KikaRz no
12:08 berome ok
12:08 KikaRz problem fixed
12:08 berome :-) nice
12:09 (I must go)
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12:10 NekoGloop Meow~
12:11 KikaRz Who can try to enter?
12:11 Purr...
12:11 m13.servegame.com:30001
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12:14 KikaRz who can try to enter?
12:14 m13.servegame.com:30001
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12:43 KikaRz Welcome Back Zeg9
12:46 Zeg9 Thanks.
12:46 o_o I just discovered what caused my minetest crashes...
12:46 KikaRz what ?
12:46 Zeg9 Is it possible that xchat notifications make minetest crash ?
12:46 KikaRz No...
12:46 Zeg9 Because it just crashed when you said that ..
12:46 KikaRz windows?
12:46 Zeg9 And it also happened when people was sending me pms
12:47 KikaRz a sec
12:47 Zeg9 And no, I'm on arch linux...
12:48 Can you highlight me ?
12:48 just to test
12:48 KikaRz Zeg9, you're cute.
12:48 Zeg9 Okay, it wasn't that...
12:48 Then it might be because someone died on the server
12:49 I'll do some testing, brb
12:50 Ok, when someone dies on my server, all 0.4.4 client crash
12:55 john_minetest btw, on zeg's server there is a problem with the lightmaps. when you remove a glowstone lamp the light stays there, if you place a new lamp it won't give light
13:00 KikaRz 18:57:04: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...4.3/bin/../games/minetest_ga​me/mods/default/init.lua:1359: attempt to concatenate field 'item' (a userdata value)
13:00 18:57:04: ERROR[main]: stack traceback:
13:00 In thread b7774700:
13:00 /root/minetest-0.4.3/src/main.cpp:1741: int main(int, char**): Assertion '0' failed.
13:00 Debug stacks:
13:00 DEBUG STACK FOR THREAD b7774700:
13:00 #0  int main(int, char**)
13:00 (Leftover data: #1  Dedicated server branch)
13:00 (Leftover data: #2  virtual void ServerMap::save(ModifiedState))
13:00 (Leftover data: #3  virtual void ServerMap::saveBlock(MapBlock*))
13:00 Zeg9 o_o it looks weird when you come back to 0.4.3 without trilinear filter
13:00 thexyz learn to use pastebin.com
13:00 KikaRz (Leftover data: #4  void ItemStack::serialize(std::ostream&) const)
13:00 Aborted
13:01 I got that problem
13:01 when some one enters the server
13:01 thexyz, pastebin is too laggy
13:01 thexyz then gist.github.com
13:01 anything
13:01 KikaRz I cant use.
13:01 thexyz except pasting in into chat
13:01 Zeg9 KikaRz, try to update your minetest_game
13:01 thexyz then somebody will mute you =(
13:01 KikaRz Zeg9, it's 0.4.3
13:01 Zeg9 Since when does it do this?
13:04 Sudi there are no monsters yet right?
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13:09 * Jordach wonders why i used /ignore KikaRz all
13:09 Jordach s/i/jordach
13:18 sfan5 lol.
13:19 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/m[…]0d6fde7af61aa0bee
13:19 what nodes in the default game should be attached?
13:19 IMO junglegrass, torch, dry shrub, sign, sapling, rails, apples
13:19 -apples
13:19 Jordach yes yes yes yes yes yes
13:20 +apples
13:20 PilzAdam the attachment code looks at the node under the apples
13:20 <thexyz> hm.. let me check some apple trees photos...
13:22 * Jordach panic()s
13:25 PilzAdam heh, i started to look a video on youtube, paused it to merge the attached_nodes thing and forget to look further
13:29 Jordach s/a video/at a video/
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13:43 testeree image minetest like this,it would be pure awesomeness ;)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs
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13:56 Sudi testeree: for what reason? thats just a 3d desktop enviroment
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13:57 Sudi testeree: and as you can see hard to control...you are way faster with alt+tab than by walking to the screen^^
13:58 testeree Sudi: just to play and work simultaneously :P, hoping it won't spoil the fun :P
13:59 Sudi get a second monitor...besides...actually playing and working at the same time not possible^^
14:00 FreeFull testeree: That would be horrible for actually getting things done
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14:23 thexyz anyone willing to add examples to wiki? http://wapi.minetest.ru/Category:MissingExample
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14:45 Jordach hey guys, has anyone noticed that we are at the same progression stage as minecraft was during indev/infdev
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14:48 simion314 hi all
14:48 NakedFury I thought we were more into early beta
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15:07 OldCoder Good morning
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15:09 NakedFury morning
15:09 babyface1031 morning
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15:13 simion314 i am trying to debug a mod, i am new to lua, how can I fix this call "print("314 turning on node at pos "..pos.tostring); "  it seems pos.tostring is nil or i need to do tostring()?  ?
15:15 Zeg9 I think it's more tostring(pos) than pos.tostring, then I never used that function, so...
15:15 PilzAdam simion314, there is a function minetest.pos_to_string(pos)
15:16 or you can use dump(pos)
15:16 KikaRz good afternoon OldCoder
15:16 simion314 thx
15:16 PilzAdam dump() converts everything into a string
15:16 but the output of minetest.pos_to_string() is better readable
15:17 in most cases i use dump() for debug output because im too lazy to type the other thing
15:17 and it also doesnt crash if the field it nil
15:19 OldCoder KikaRz, Hi
15:19 babyface1031, Hey
15:20 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
15:20 OldCoder NakedFury, how are you this fine day?
15:20 NakedFury fine
15:20 super
15:20 Jordach good morning OldCoder
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15:28 OldCoder Jordach, Hi!
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15:33 rubenwardy hi all
15:43 simion314 anyone here is familiar with the mesecons code? i am trying to debug an issue, when moving an item with a piston ,it's powered state is not updated
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15:44 Doc22_ 'ello
15:45 KikaRz are you interested in making machines?
15:45 KikaRz yep
15:45 Doc22_ mesecons
15:45 ok
15:45 KikaRz yep
15:45 Doc22_ ill give you ip
15:45 KikaRz :)
15:45 Doc22_ its 1.4
15:45 4.4*
15:45 KikaRz 1.4.4 ?
15:45 0.4.4?
15:45 Doc22_ yes
15:45 KikaRz xd
15:45 Doc22_ yes
15:45 lol
15:45 KikaRz let me make on e thing in my server first
15:45 Doc22_ http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minet[…]-655bb52-win32.7z
15:45 here is download for 4.4
15:46 KikaRz no thanks
15:46 i dont use that.
15:46 no OpenGL support
15:46 i got a custom one
15:46 Doc22_ thats my server version
15:46 oh ok
15:46 KikaRz Doc22, its the same
15:46 Doc22_ well is your version compatible
15:46 KikaRz thexyz compiled me one
15:46 Doc22_ oh nvm
15:46 lol
15:47 im lucky I get computer parts this christmas so that I can build custom pc
15:47 it is going to be awesome, and it wont lag
15:47 a change from the old 2000 pc
15:47 lol
15:48 2ghz
15:48 1gb ram
15:48 KikaRz wait
15:48 Doc22_ lol
15:48 Jordach doc22_ a) it probably will on a home connection, b) mesecons is always laggy, c) it's 0.4.4-dev
15:48 KikaRz let me make here one thing
15:48 Jordach
15:48 as i said yesterday:
15:48 Doc22_ ok
15:48 KikaRz FUTURE 0.4.4 = 0.4.4 -.-
15:48 Doc22_ lol
15:48 I know mesecons is laggy
15:49 its not that bad on my server, and mesecons is awesome
15:49 im making ram modules right now :D
15:49 then I will make a processor
15:49 and a screen...
15:49 KikaRz im uploading to my server a thing
15:49 Jordach doc22_ dont expect them to work
15:49 Doc22_ ok
15:49 I just finished a good ram design
15:50 it works.
15:51 KikaRz lol
15:51 i made a mini fridge
15:51 that connects usb to the computer
15:51 and computer powers him up
15:52 Doc22_ lol
15:52 KikaRz so cool to put the water there
15:52 or the coca cola
15:52 or a salad...
15:52 soon ill make a microwave.
15:52 Doc22_ ok so far I have a partial-five bit address selector
15:53 and I have 4 bits of data for each address
15:53 I will be expanding
15:53 OldCoder Doc22, hi
15:54 Doc22_ heo oldcoder
15:54 hey*
15:54 KikaRz Doc22_ , in few moments ill be free
15:54 Doc22_ ok
15:54 ill pm ip
15:54 KikaRz Doc22_, can you send me ip and port in pm?
15:54 ok
15:54 Doc22_ XD
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15:55 rubenwardy Minetest is really improving
15:56 OldCoder rubenwardy, Indeed
15:56 rubenwardy, Your own work will help
15:57 rubenwardy I would help in the C++, but i have no idea where to get started
15:58 * PilzAdam too
15:58 rubenwardy https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/branches  lots of choice
15:59 "on demand visuals" does that mean textures are only loaded when they are needed?
16:01 Jordach wait, when did minetest have shaders https://github.com/celeron55/m[…]8253cc96eedd054b2
16:01 PilzAdam the shaders_v4 branch is aweseome
16:01 just tried
16:02 Jordach can i has pics?
16:02 PilzAdam sure
16:02 Jordach cheers, i might write a shader just like sonicethers
16:02 KikaRz that can lag...
16:02 Jordach (and glistening water)
16:03 rubenwardy when will shaders be in master? How laggy are they?
16:03 Sudi wow how many people are working on this project...its amazing how active it is here
16:03 Jordach this is what the modding api should be like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE
16:03 PilzAdam Jordach, http://www.zimg.eu/i/3772979522
16:04 there are 2 test shaders
16:04 jin_xi im in ur loopz eating your rams
16:04 PilzAdam rubenwardy, it doesnt lag for me; i get >200 FPS with max view in current upstream, so...
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16:05 rubenwardy cool, what about dependancey and older systems?
16:05 OldCoder Calinou, Hi
16:05 Jordach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE  Calinou - we need this for minetests apu
16:05 api
16:05 KikaRz lol
16:05 rubenwardy if it does not work on older systems, can you turn it of and it still works?
16:05 KikaRz apu its from simpsons
16:06 rubenwardy as in minetest still runs
16:06 KikaRz i can test
16:06 PilzAdam rubenwardy, yes, shaders will be configureable
16:06 KikaRz i got a old system
16:06 and graphics card
16:06 Calinou KikaRz: accelerated processin unit :p
16:06 processing*
16:07 OldCoder I will be backing and rebuilding worlds today. Does anybody wish to suggest changes or updates?
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16:12 KikaRz guys
16:12 how i turn a unknown file into a directory?
16:12 Sudi KikaRz: mkdir^^
16:13 KikaRz Sudi
16:13 I DONT WANT TO CREATE A FOLDER
16:13 Calinou you have to remove the file first :p
16:13 KikaRz <KikaRz> how i turn a unknown file into a directory?
16:13 Calinou, cant
16:13 Calinou unknown file? what unknown file?
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16:13 Sudi yeah that doesn't make sense
16:13 if the file is unknow
16:13 how do you know its name
16:14 Doc22_ its a government conspiracy
16:14 lol
16:14 Calinou CONS-PIRACY!
16:14 Sudi constant piracy
16:14 i see
16:14 ...
16:14 Doc22_ NO!
16:14 ther must be no arranging of 1s and 0s
16:14 KikaRz WHAT?
16:14 Calinou const-correct piracy
16:14 Doc22_ if that thing is "Copy-Righted"
16:14 Sudi haha
16:15 right
16:15 Doc22_ Contsipation-piracy
16:15 hrmm
16:15 well i gave it a try
16:15 lol
16:16 Sudi yeah...
16:16 Doc22_ :/
16:16 why do I make stupid puns
16:18 simion314 anyone here is familiar with the mesecons code? i am trying to debug an issue, when moving an item with a piston ,it's powered state is not updated
16:18 Doc22_ is protectors mod in
16:18 it causes glitches
16:19 if a protector blocks is placed 5 blocks away from the block being moved
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16:20 PilzAdam Jordach, andother screenshot by c55: http://misc.minetest.net/scree[…]ot_1463910756.png
16:20 *another
16:21 * Jordach does not see any difference
16:21 KikaRz i did...
16:21 SHIT :D
16:21 deleted the whole server
16:22 Doc22_ lol
16:22 * Jordach wants motion blur
16:23 KikaRz hey
16:23 whats the first thing to do when we compile a server?
16:23 cmake . RUN what?
16:23 PilzAdam -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
16:24 KikaRz not that
16:24 thats not for server
16:24 PilzAdam -DBUILD_CLIENT=0
16:24 KikaRz DBUILD_SERVER=1 ?
16:24 PilzAdam thats default
16:25 default is CLIENT=1 and SERVER=1
16:25 KikaRz building server.
16:29 john_minetest The privs problem on zegathon seems to be admin account hackage. although the admin didn't join in the time where the rights were granted it was in the grant message. strange but maybe ghosting through a shell. admin passwords are now more complicated.
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16:38 Jordach ah, ctrl + tab, so loving in a tabbed browser :(
16:38 -( +)
16:40 Calinou PilzAdam: looks like less intense smooth lighting
16:41 PilzAdam it makes the top part one step brighter than the rest
16:41 Calinou like in minecraft 8D
16:42 * Jordach now notices the changes
16:42 Jordach FUCK.
16:43 it should also follow the sun, just like sonic ethers shader mod
16:43 ;)
16:44 Doc22_ oh yeah, that mod looks awesome
16:44 Jordach doc22_, THESE ARE NOT MODS.
16:44 Doc22_ I support that kind of change
16:44 i know
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16:44 Doc22_ i meant that implementing something like it would be good
16:44 Garp Hi.
16:44 Doc22_ hi
16:45 Jordach good, and also correct using 4.4 instead of 0.4.4 (remember, the 0.x.x is good.)
16:45 Doc22_ i meant that sonic ethers shader mod looks awesome
16:45 all right
16:45 Jordach yeah, thats what i hope on making
16:45 Doc22_ it looks awesome
16:45 good feel for blocky world
16:46 Jordach (i could just use lighting at everyhour, so thats 24 different angles
16:46 PilzAdam Doc22_, it looks much more awesome in game!
16:46 Jordach )
16:46 Doc22_ less... bland.
16:46 jin_xi http://i.imgur.com/sNyNn.jpg with shaders
16:46 Doc22_ yeah I bet it does
16:46 wow
16:46 that looks awesome
16:46 Calinou shaders for lighting are not very useful
16:46 PilzAdam the water is also MCish
16:46 Calinou nodeboxes still don't support smooth lighting :(
16:46 Garp Question: Under debian squeeze, ran the server with "minecraftserevr" under some user. Truybed to connect localhost 30000 but always timeout on client side. However teh server can see the connection, but the client dont. Any aidea? Thanks.
16:46 Doc22_ something that could be implemented
16:46 KikaRz guys
16:47 got a problem
16:47 WARNING: system-wide share found at "/root/minetestserver2/minetest-0.4.3/bin/.."
16:47 22:46:34: ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found.
16:47 Calinou Garp: minecraftserver?
16:47 Doc22_ is small waves on the water
16:47 Calinou KikaRz: do not host a server as root
16:47 Jordach sfan5 - can you compile shaders_v4 branch please in celeron55/minetest?
16:47 Calinou are you crazy?
16:47 KikaRz Calinou
16:47 im not hosting
16:47 sfan5 Jordach: maybe
16:47 Garp Calinou: sorry. /usr/games/minetestserver
16:47 KikaRz im testing
16:47 Calinou Garp: try 127.0.0.1 port 30000
16:47 Jordach sfan5 thanks. I wanna toy with this stuff
16:47 KikaRz i got that problem
16:47 WARNING: system-wide share found at "/root/minetestserver2/minetest-0.4.3/bin/.."
16:47 22:46:34: ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found.
16:47 who can help me?
16:47 Garp Calinou: I cannot tape '7' in the server boxc
16:47 Doc22_ oh i know
16:48 Garp Could not find EKEY_CODE, using orig. X11 keycode instead: 16
16:48 Any number works, but 7
16:48 Calinou that happens when you use non-qwerty layout
16:48 probably azerty here
16:48 like me 8)
16:48 Doc22_ you need to put in the minetest-0.4.4/games/ the world file
16:48 I think
16:48 Garp Yes.
16:48 Any workaround?
16:48 Calinou solution: switch to qwerty temporarily
16:48 Doc22_ err
16:48 Calinou :>
16:48 KikaRz world file?
16:48 Doc22_ the game settings
16:48 KikaRz it generates
16:48 if its not
16:48 Doc22_ ill email it
16:48 or something
16:48 KikaRz ah
16:48 Garp OK. I'll try.
16:48 Dont have time now, let you know :)
16:48 Doc22_ you know what I speak of?
16:48 KikaRz need to use the minetest_game
16:48 Doc22_ yes
16:49 Garp See ya and thanks for the help and the work :)
16:49 Doc22_ put the file in /games
16:49 Calinou Garp: no idea what de you use, but in xfce it takes like 10 seconds to change layout
16:49 menu > settings > keyboard > layout > english..
16:49 you could also set up a shortcut, like alt+shift
16:50 Doc22_ he left lol
16:50 KikaRz Doc22
16:50 Doc22_ yes
16:50 KikaRz forget.
16:51 Doc22_ ohkay...
16:51 ill just work on my ram modules then
16:52 lol
16:52 KikaRz Doc22_
16:52 Doc22_ ?
16:52 KikaRz im installing the minetest_game
16:52 Doc22_ ok
16:52 * Jordach has worked out how to save 512k in mc redstone modules
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16:52 Garp Hi.
16:52 Doc22_ [09:49] <Calinou> Garp: no idea what de you use, but in xfce it takes like 10 seconds to change layout [09:49] <Calinou> menu > settings > keyboard > layout > english.. [09:49] <Calinou> you could also set up a shortcut, like alt+shift
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16:54 Garp Fastest and works better than keyboard layout: vi ~/.mintest/mintest.conf edit the server entry.
16:54 Thanks again, have to go.
16:56 KikaRz Doc22_ just need mesecons?
16:56 Doc22_ and worldedit
16:56 KikaRz and tht?
16:57 Doc22_ yes
16:57 KikaRz and creative?
16:57 Doc22_ ja
16:59 just make a new world if you want
16:59 sfan5 .sv
16:59 .c 1+1
17:00 jin_xi sfan5: its 2
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17:00 Jordach .sa
17:00 sfan5 jin_xi: i know
17:00 Jordach .sv
17:00 sfan5 .sv
17:00 MinetestBot sfan5: NotObamaLand | notobama.freedns.mobi:30000   up (98.305%)
17:00 Jordach: M13's Server (0.4.3) | m13.servegame.com:30001   down
17:01 Jordach .c 3.142 * (E * r)
17:01 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
17:01 NakedFury the command .sv shows a random server?
17:01 Jordach yes
17:01 NakedFury would it be possible to say .sv jordacH to shows his server ?
17:02 Jordach no
17:02 NakedFury ok then possible so it doesnt repeat a server before going through them all?
17:03 Calinou <Garp> Fastest and works better than keyboard layout: vi ~/.mintest/mintest.conf edit the server entry.
17:03 lolvi
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17:03 Jordach hehehe, this t-flip-flop ram works brilliant with mesecons
17:04 OldCoder Zeg9, wb
17:06 rubenwardy OldCoder: https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Website
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17:13 KikaRz Guys, who got a good minetest.conf for a server?
17:13 (creative mesecons server)
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17:15 simion314 I think i found the fix for my mesecon update problem, I submited a commit with the fix
17:28 OldCoder KikaRz, I do
17:28 Hold on
17:29 KikaRz you do what?
17:29 ah
17:29 i need a non laggy one
17:29 because im not with a minetest.conf file
17:29 in the vps
17:29 OldCoder Yes
17:29 One moment
17:30 http://minetest.org/minetest-conf.txt
17:30 Maybe that with creative mode added
17:30 Hold on
17:31 KikaRz OldCoder
17:31 did you entered the vps?
17:31 OldCoder http://minetest.org/veritas-conf.txt
17:31 How about that one?
17:31 KikaRz, you mean now?
17:31 I could
17:31 KikaRz 23:31:49: ACTION[ServerThread]: KikaRz times out. List of players: Doc
17:31 23:31:53: ACTION[ServerThread]: Doc times out. List of players:
17:31 everyone timed out
17:31 OldCoder KikaRz, it is probably the network
17:31 Hold on
17:32 KikaRz i restarted it
17:32 need to add the minetest.conf
17:32 OldCoder All right
17:32 KikaRz the server is too glitchy without it
17:32 OldCoder CPU load is low
17:32 Hold on
17:33 KikaRz CPU Load of?
17:33 OldCoder Hang on
17:33 Where did the folder move to
17:33 KikaRz of my server? (m13)
17:33 m13 server and mine
17:34 OldCoder Am I on the wrong VPS?
17:34 PM
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17:44 Jordach hey NekoGloop
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17:47 NekoGloop Meow.
17:48 Jordach nearly there with my tp
17:48 * Jordach exhales
17:48 Jordach and i've got foooooooooddddd!
17:48 ah yes, the microwave "beep! beep!"
17:49 john_minetest foooooooddddd??? brainzzzzzzz!!!!
17:49 * john_minetest is a zombie
17:53 * KikaRz kills john_minetest with a bottle of lava in the head
17:53 continues: and some TNT from Creeper Heart.
17:53 * john_minetest growls and tries to reach KikaRz
17:53 * KikaRz runs
17:54 * john_minetest attracts other zombies towards the situation with his growls
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18:01 PilzAdam http://www.zimg.eu/i/3294693692
18:01 KikaRz That is?
18:01 Give us a description
18:01 PilzAdam A screenshot
18:01 :-p
18:03 KikaRz whats Sand-Blasted Stone Brick ID?
18:03 PilzAdam its either an old version of Minecraft or the latest Minetest with shaders and MC TP
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18:05 NekoGloop PilzAdam: Minetest. You can tell because of the tree shapes.
18:06 Octupus hi
18:06 PilzAdam and the water textures
18:06 Zeg9 The fog, too
18:06 Or...
18:06 VanessaE hi all.
18:07 Zeg9 Hello!
18:07 OldCoder hi
18:07 NekoGloop Meow to one and all! :3
18:07 OldCoder hey
18:07 PilzAdam VanessaE, seen the screenshot: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3294693692
18:07 VanessaE NekoGloop: wtf do YOU want!???
18:07 ;)
18:07 Octupus hi vanessae
18:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: saw it.  Not bad.  Sure a far better look than the default orange sand :)
18:07 NekoGloop VanessaE: I didnt HL you immediately like i do every time i come on.
18:07 Octupus hi OldCoder
18:08 VanessaE PilzAdam: also saw the "shader" one with the water being not quite 1 block high.  nice.
18:08 OldCoder Hi
18:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: just playing :)
18:08 NekoGloop Er, like i get HL'd all the time immediately when i come on.
18:08 Octupus im going to start my mod now
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18:13 Jordach hey john_minetest
18:13 john_minetest hi
18:17 Jordach VanessaE, PilzAdam this is what i wish to do with the shaders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgXVYCy73tc
18:18 PilzAdam Jordach, we all do....
18:18 VanessaE Jordach: glwt.
18:23 NakedFury if minetest does ever have such visuals we should throw a party
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18:26 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDZA1Js1zqs VanessaE - your pack with dat shader
18:27 (think of you pack)
18:27 your
18:27 NakedFury really awesome
18:27 VanessaE looks nice
18:28 NakedFury I like how that shader makes the vegetation move
18:28 VanessaE but won't such fancy stuff kill performance?
18:28 Jordach at the end of the video you can see the player model shadow
18:29 VanessaE I see it.
18:30 Jordach VanessaE - i now get 60fps dead with the latest git on windows
18:30 with the fancy stuff on
18:31 VanessaE cool
18:31 performance for me has been improving lately too
18:31 brb
18:31 Jordach (i dont know what causes this, but it works a lot better on 6 year old hardware)
18:35 KikaRz Hi VanessaE
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18:37 Fabiter213 Hey! :)
18:37 Is anybody here? :)
18:42 john_minetest hi
18:45 Fabiter213 Hey! :)
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18:53 Doc22_ hey Octupus
18:53 are you interested in mesecons machines
18:53 Octupus hi
18:53 Doc22_ im making a computer
18:53 aww but i got to go now
18:54 ill talk later about mesecons machines
18:54 KikaRz lol
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18:59 babyface1031 sorry Octupus i was cooking D:
18:59 Octupus o well its ok
18:59 KikaRz What?
19:00 I love cooked chicken
19:00 and porkshop
19:00 *chop
19:00 dislike McDonald
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19:15 KikaRz Hi Muadtralk :D
19:19 Fabiter213 Hey guys, can anybody help me?
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19:21 Garp Hi.
19:22 PilzAdam hi
19:22 Fabiter213 Hey. :9
19:22 Can someone help me pleas?
19:22 * OldCoder is AFK for about half an hour on errands
19:23 jin_xi fuck yeah i fixed the screen flicker issue on my laptop!
19:23 PilzAdam Fabiter213, just ask your question
19:23 Garp Question (debian squeeze): when I run minetest standalone, things seems fione. When I run a serveur (minetestserver) on one side and connect a client. Things are funny: I can fly, cross through matter withouyt any problem, strange. Any idea? Thanks.
19:23 PilzAdam nobody will answer to stupid questions like "can someone help me?"
19:23 OldCoder Fabiter213, state question please
19:23 Fabiter213 Yeah, i see
19:24 If i close Minetest, and restart it, i allways spawn under the erth, can i fix this?
19:24 OldCoder Yes
19:24 neko259 VanessaE: Do you want to push anything else to my nature mod? I'm going to try refactoring it and releasing a version with your latest commits...
19:24 OldCoder You can edit the player file that records the position
19:24 neko259 And my vines don't work after those changes.
19:24 jin_xi PilzAdam: do you know a way to force update light?
19:24 PilzAdam Garp, in the singleplayer the fly mode is disabled in default
19:24 OldCoder It will be in one of two places
19:25 Either in the minetest.conf file or in a file in the players folder
19:25 PilzAdam Garp, but on servers you maybe have the fly priv and can fly
19:25 OldCoder Fabiter213, ^
19:25 Fabiter213 Okey.. :) Thank you.
19:25 PilzAdam jin_xi, place a node
19:25 with light_source ~= 0
19:26 Fabiter213 OldCoder ^^*
19:26 Garp PilzAdam: and cross through matter? What are the options to set things as on single mode on the server ?
19:26 KikaRz people
19:26 Here's a tip if you're a boy
19:26 leo_rockway jin_xi: the walking light mod used an invisible node that forced the light update.
19:27 PilzAdam Garp, with "K" you can switch fly mode
19:27 leo_rockway but it glitched a bit
19:27 KikaRz tell your girlfriend: I Hate my Nose. Because, it makes me get hungry, it makes me get annoyed... it makes me get with water in the mouth.
19:27 jin_xi problem is light in large buildings
19:27 KikaRz Just one thing... i love my nose because i can smell your beauty.
19:27 jin_xi i might give walkable light thing a try
19:27 Garp PilzAdam: so the client can decide about the physics on the server side? Hum.. I'll see, thanks.
19:27 KikaRz thats a good thing to tell to your girlfriend
19:27 :P
19:28 Calinou Garp: you need fly privilege to fly :p
19:28 PilzAdam Garp, the client needs the "fly" privilege wich is set by the server
19:28 Calinou and fast privilege to move faster
19:28 KikaRz use:
19:28 default_privs = fly, fast, interact, shout
19:28 in your minetest.conf
19:28 Garp I dont want to fly...
19:28 leo_rockway fly privileges also allow you to walk through solid objects
19:28 KikaRz lol
19:28 its like noclip
19:29 Calinou it IS noclip
19:29 PilzAdam wtf is noclip?
19:29 Fabiter213 How can i set up a server? :)
19:29 PilzAdam ./minetestserver
19:30 Garp default_privs = interact, shout
19:30 (on server side)
19:30 Fabiter213 I cant understand your awnsers, what you mean.. :(
19:30 KikaRz just change to fly, fast, interact, shout
19:30 Garp default_game = minetest
19:31 (I dont understand if that's meaningful or just a string)
19:31 KikaRz Fabiter213, just compile the game
19:31 Octupus what are we talking about
19:31 KikaRz in the vps
19:31 and ./minetestserver
19:31 cd bin
19:31 ./minetestserver
19:31 Fabiter213 Sorry, my question was bad, i mean, how or can i setup a server, who i can play in multiplayer*
19:31 My bad
19:32 KikaRz Fabiter213
19:32 PilzAdam .wik Server
19:32 KikaRz First: OS?
19:32 MinetestBot "Setting up a server in such a way so that others may connect to it via the internet takes some time, and a little technical know-how." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Server
19:32 KikaRz OS = Operating System
19:32 PilzAdam Fabiter213, go to the link the bot mentioned
19:33 Fabiter213 Yeah, thanks, did this work with a real Server too?
19:33 A root Server?
19:35 PilzAdam whats a "root server"?
19:35 Fabiter213 Do you know what a VServer (Virtual Server) Is?
19:36 Other wise, a root Server is a computer, onley used to be a server.
19:37 KikaRz LOL
19:37 .wik root
19:37 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Root
19:37 KikaRz lol
19:37 .wik Server
19:37 Jordach anyways, im heading off to a friends, night all
19:37 MinetestBot "Setting up a server in such a way so that others may connect to it via the internet takes some time, and a little technical know-how." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Server
19:37 Jordach (ill be back about 4pm gmt+0)
19:37 Calinou PilzAdam: noclip is flying through walls
19:37 KikaRz ok
19:38 a/b
19:38 .c 85/43*2
19:38 MinetestBot 3.95348837
19:38 Calinou (or well, walking through walls too)
19:38 KikaRz .c pi
19:38 Calinou .c 1/3
19:38 MinetestBot 3.14159265
19:38 0.333333333
19:38 KikaRz .c pi
19:38 MinetestBot 3.14159265
19:38 Calinou only 9 digits :(
19:38 KikaRz *-*
19:38 love pi.
19:38 Calinou . 2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^
19:38 KikaRz 3.14159265
19:38 Calinou c. 2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2
19:38 KikaRz fail
19:38 Calinou :p
19:38 PilzAdam if you like pi you may also like e
19:39 Calinou bot didn't reply
19:39 KikaRz .c 2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2
19:39 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
19:39 KikaRz you did the account wrong
19:39 its .c
19:39 not c.
19:39 or .
19:39 Calinou k
19:39 .c -1²
19:39 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
19:39 KikaRz .c e
19:39 MinetestBot 2.71828183
19:39 Calinou .c 2²
19:39 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
19:39 Calinou no ²? :(
19:39 .c sqrt(-1)
19:39 MinetestBot i
19:39 Calinou lol
19:39 PilzAdam .c 2^2
19:39 MinetestBot 4
19:39 Calinou "sqrt(-1) love you!" < minecraft splash
19:39 KikaRz .c 5,34*106
19:39 MinetestBot 566,04
19:40 KikaRz COOL
19:40 but not 106
19:40 Calinou .c KikaRz+PilzAdam
19:40 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
19:40 Calinou :<
19:40 KikaRz :(
19:40 .c Calinou+pi
19:40 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
19:40 KikaRz xd
19:40 .help
19:40 no help command :(
19:40 .g KikaRz+Calinou
19:40 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-11-19
19:41 KikaRz ohohohoho
19:41 .g celeron55+Doc22
19:41 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-11-17
19:41 KikaRz Doc22, are you there?
19:42 Calinou .c raspberry*pi
19:42 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
19:42 KikaRz .c pi*e*pi+e
19:42 MinetestBot 29.5466481
19:42 leo_rockway .wik mobs
19:42 MinetestBot "Minetest had very few mobs before the 0.4.0 version." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mobs
19:42 KikaRz .wik Calinou
19:42 Calinou .c e
19:42 MinetestBot 2.71828183
19:43 "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Calinou
19:43 leo_rockway thank you, MinetestBot
19:43 Calinou .g MinetestBot
19:43 PilzAdam .wik celeron55
19:43 MinetestBot Calinou: No results found for 'MinetestBot'.
19:43 Calinou lol
19:43 MinetestBot "celeron55 leads quite a private life and so not much is known about his early life." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Celeron55
19:43 KikaRz lol
19:43 .g Minetest
19:43 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://minetest.net/
19:43 Calinou you highlighted him..
19:43 KikaRz .d hp
19:43 leo_rockway I like the idea of fireflies...
19:43 the walking light mod should use fireflies in a jar
19:43 KikaRz .q test
19:43 .o test
19:43 what are this bot commands?
19:44 .g KikaRz
19:44 MinetestBot KikaRz: http://steamcommunity.com/id/KikaRz1
19:44 PilzAdam .tw github
19:44 KikaRz Ok, i know that i have steam
19:44 MinetestBot We'll be performing network maintenance tomorrow, Saturday 12/1, at 6am Pacific. Impact, if any, is expected to be brief. (@github)
19:44 KikaRz .tw Calinou
19:44 MinetestBot Raspberry ketones, miracle fat burner? If Dr. Oz says so  http://www.actermites.com/chec[…]98grahamwilliams/ (@Calinou)
19:44 KikaRz lol
19:44 .tw MichaelJackson
19:45 MinetestBot THRILLER ALBUM RELEASED 30 YEARS AGO TODAY! What is your favorite song from the album? #Thriller @michaeljackson pic.twitter.com/ijjbWVC5 (@MichaelJackson)
19:45 KikaRz That's strange... it continues tweeting...
19:45 XD
19:45 Calinou .tw minetest
19:45 MinetestBot hi this is me (@minetest)
19:45 KikaRz .tw JustinBieber
19:45 Calinou KikaRz: i am not on twitter 8)
19:45 MinetestBot the whole team is here. TORONTO today....u wont forget! #BELIEVEtour #Homecoming #STADIUMstatus (@JustinBieber)
19:45 KikaRz AAAAAAAAA!
19:45 Calinou .tw linux
19:45 KikaRz Justin Bieber isnt deaaaaaad!
19:45 MinetestBot Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" released! #Ubuntu #Linux (@linux)
19:45 KikaRz AAAAAA!
19:45 Calinou lol
19:46 KikaRz .tw ubuntu
19:46 Muadtralk .tw shutup
19:46 Calinou old news
19:46 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/shutup?1354391162.14 (@shutup)
19:46 Don't  miss the last webinar of the #cloud series #OpenStack and #Ubuntu: #Dreamhost #public cloud on #Openstack http://bit.ly/SSYJEL (@ubuntu)
19:46 KikaRz LOL
19:46 Calinou .tw amazon ads
19:46 MinetestBot Calinou: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id
19:46 KikaRz .tw sex
19:46 ups.
19:46 MinetestBot ╲╭━━━━╮╲╲╭━━━━━━━━━━━╮ ╲┃╭╮╭╮┃╲╲┃~30 AutoFOLLOWBacks ┗┫┏━━┓┣┛╲╰┳╮@http://twitclub.com ╲┃╰━━╯┃━━━╯╰━━━━━━━━━╯ ╲╰┳━━┳╯─►http://6.ly/gy9 (@sex)
19:46 Calinou stop spamming :p
19:46 gtg, bye
19:46 KikaRz Ohohohoho...
19:46 Calinou nice slashes you have there MinetestBot
19:47 KikaRz not from minetestbot
19:47 but yes from @sex twitter
19:47 xd
19:47 .t minetest
19:47 Muadtralk .tw CommieWaffles
19:47 KikaRz .tw Portugal
19:47 MinetestBot Hey, @chetplease, look what I found. http://yfrog.com/obr7zoej (@CommieWaffles)
19:47 Chegou o frio. (@Portugal)
19:47 KikaRz lol
19:48 Chegou o frio = Cold arrived here
19:48 .tw Spain
19:48 MinetestBot @joebertl  Whenever you want! Take care! Best! (@Spain)
19:48 KikaRz .tw UnitedKingdom
19:48 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/UnitedKingdom?1354391297.31 (@UnitedKingdom)
19:48 KikaRz .tw USA
19:48 MinetestBot So along with your friends and family, wish everyone the heartiest thanks. Happy Thanksgiving Day! (@USA)
19:48 Calinou .tw twitter
19:48 MinetestBot The Twitter Fiction Festival begins tomorrow: http://blog.twitter.com/2012/1[…]l-selections.html. Everyone can participate! Tell your story with #twitterfiction. (@twitter)
19:48 PilzAdam .tw MinetestBot
19:48 KikaRz .tw VenomExtreme
19:48 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/MinetestBot?1354391328.2 (@MinetestBot)
19:48 I liked a @YouTube video from @venomextreme http://youtu.be/N3gr5fTb4Cw?a Sobrevivente - ZombiU (@VenomExtreme)
19:49 KikaRz My uncle *-*
19:49 VenomExtreme is my uncle :)
19:49 Muadtralk .tw VerminSupreme
19:49 KikaRz better: Eduardo Faria
19:49 MinetestBot "All politicians are vermin, and I'm the best vermin of them all" #VerminSupreme #AnarchistRunningForPresident (@VerminSupreme)
19:49 KikaRz .tw xchat
19:49 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/xchat?1354391378.29 (@xchat)
19:49 KikaRz .tw office
19:49 MinetestBot Flash Fill means you can get more done in less time. Take a look at this new feature in #Excel 2013. http://msft.it/6011pjCJ #OfficePreview (@office)
19:49 KikaRz Let me see...
19:49 Calinou .tw windows
19:50 MinetestBot Have you tried Snap in @Windows 8 to use two apps at once? See more tips and tricks here: http://bit.ly/Win8101 #Windows8 (@windows)
19:50 Calinou roflcopter
19:50 KikaRz .tw windowssucks
19:50 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/windowssucks?1354391407.85 (@windowssucks)
19:50 KikaRz lets create a twitter
19:50 nick: windowssucks
19:50 .tw BillGates
19:50 MinetestBot On World Aids Day, it’s important to remember that if we stay the course we can end this epidemic. http://b-gat.es/11sGbRM (@BillGates)
19:52 KikaRz last twee
19:52 .tw joaoadriano3
19:52 MinetestBot @Feromonas_ A livestream está muito boa para um Computador que esta a morrer (como o meu estava antes de o limpar) e um pc fraco.. (@joaoadriano3)
19:52 KikaRz thats my brother
19:52 NakedFury could you stop the crap. you did the same stuff yesterday
19:52 KikaRz ... i said:
19:52 last TWEET
19:52 .
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20:04 KikaRz Hey
20:04 who got IRCBot code?
20:04 i want to enable it in my server
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20:22 Garp Question: When I start minetestserver and connect with the client, I get a working environement. If I quite the client and reconnect, I'm only abel to get a full black window where the landscape should be; why? Thanks.
20:23 PilzAdam Garp, maybe you spawned in a node
20:24 Garp PilzAdam: I connected using a new user and it seems to be "night"
20:24 thexyz what minetest version are you on?
20:25 Garp PilzAdam: (I saw stars)
20:25 thexyz: the one from debian squeeze
20:25 21:18:46: ACTION[main]: minetest with SER_FMT_VER_HIGHEST=20, VER=0.3.1 RUN_IN_P
20:25 thexyz you should better compile newer one yourself, this one is quite old
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20:26 Garp thexyz: I just realized that :(
20:26 PilzAdam compiling is easier than installing a package
20:26 Garp Sorry to have bothered you. I'll do that first and the complain again if needed ;)
20:26 PilzAdam: I dont think so however. Installing is just "aptitude install minetest minetestserver"
20:27 compiling will at least requiere several other steps
20:27 PilzAdam compiling is just: make . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 && make -j16
20:27 and at the first run you have to install the dependencies
20:27 but the command for that is for ubuntu/debian in the README
20:28 Garp PilzAdam: Si I at least have to read the README ;)
20:28 thexyz s/make/cmake/
20:28 PilzAdam oh, yea typo
20:29 Garp which version should I download? latest stable or more recent ?
20:29 PilzAdam latest git version
20:29 babyface1031 RealBadAngel you on?
20:30 Garp PilzAdam: OK, lets live dangerously !
20:33 Where is the install doc? (I'm lazy, sorry)
20:33 thexyz README
20:33 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/mi[…]er/README.txt#L78
20:34 Garp Thanks :)
20:35 Pretty detailed steps, thanks.
20:36 KikaRz thexyz :D
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20:39 thexyz are there any modding tutorials except jeija's & rubenwardy's ones?
20:40 Garp (building)
20:40 Octupus MinetestBot,define juice
20:41 Muadtralk joined #minetest
20:43 KikaRz Octupus, define (sqrt-1)
20:43 Octupus ?
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20:46 neko259 VanessaE: Nevermind, I've already commited.
20:46 STHGOM joined #minetest
20:48 Garp Nice :) Thanks, seems to work :)
20:48 PilzAdam so you run 0.4.4-dev now?
20:49 Garp Yes, that's what my client says
20:54 simion314 hpw do i set fly privilage in single player creative?
20:55 PilzAdam simion314, /grant singleplayer fly,fast
20:56 OldCoder Hi
20:56 Back for a while
20:56 KikaRz Hi OldCoder
20:57 Zeg9 Hey OldCoder
20:57 PilzAdam Hi OC the OP
20:57 kaeza joined #minetest
20:58 kaeza hello
20:58 got to wrong channel :(
20:58 Zeg9 ...
20:58 OldCoder Zeg9, I was delayed but will restart Zegaton now after removing Teleport as John requested
20:58 kaeza now that's better
20:58 OldCoder kaeza, hi
20:58 kaeza hey OldCoder
20:58 Zeg9 OldCoder, did you just disable recipe or the teleporters entirely ?
20:58 kaeza what's up?
21:00 OldCoder Zeg9, I have not made the change yet; wished to ask you what you'd prefer
21:01 What was it John was requesting?
21:01 kaeza, I am preparing to rebuild the worlds
21:01 Changes are welcome
21:01 Backups will be made too
21:01 Zeg9 Well, I agreed with john to only disable the crafting recipe, so people can only have teleporters if admins trust them.
21:01 kaeza OldCoder: ok
21:01 Zeg9 Btw, the mod is ready
21:01 KikaRz guys
21:02 how to give permissions to run into a sh app?
21:02 in linux?
21:02 Zeg9 chmod +x <file>
21:03 kaeza ermm... KikaRz
21:03 KikaRz ok
21:04 kaeza packmod.sh already has +x
21:04 KikaRz no
21:04 it hasnt
21:04 kaeza GAWD!
21:04 KikaRz i need to give it permissions
21:05 thats a big problem for your lua thing
21:05 kaeza hmm... wait
21:05 let me test it
21:05 OldCoder Zeg9, all right
21:05 Zeg9, you may email or http://sendspace.com/ it if you wish
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21:08 Zeg9 OldCoder: http://ompldr.org/vZ2l5cw
21:08 Please remove inv_skin, both are not compatible with each other
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21:12 OldCoder Zeg9, all right ty
21:12 Dogzilla131, Hi!
21:12 Dogzilla131, is moreflags working for you?
21:12 Dogzilla131, the new blog of flags seems to be unknown blocks ATM
21:12 Dogzilla131 Hi Oldcoder
21:13 lem met check
21:13 MiJyn hi
21:13 Dogzilla131 *let
21:13 hi
21:13 Octupus hi Dogzilla131
21:13 MiJyn how is everyone?
21:13 Octupus hi Mijyn
21:13 Dogzilla131 ho octu
21:13 Zeg9 Hello.
21:14 MiJyn wow, I guess I have started a "hello" party lol
21:14 Octupus :)
21:14 Zeg9 Yes.
21:14 STHGOM hi
21:14 Zeg9 See?
21:14 Octupus hi PilzAdam
21:14 PilzAdam sup
21:15 Octupus nada mucho
21:15 STHGOM i am sparky
21:15 babyface1031 Octupus i have to get off for a bit i never got a responce back from rba i dont think he is on right now
21:16 Dogzilla131 oh yeah
21:16 Octupus he might be at work and see ya later face
21:16 Dogzilla131 hey oldcoder the mod
21:17 is okay, is just in version 0.2 has words not numbers
21:17 kaeza hey Dogzilla131
21:17 Dogzilla131 i got more organize so i chenge the name of the png files so then it turns to an unknown
21:18 hi kaeza
21:18 kaeza hey Octupus
21:18 Octupus hi kaeza
21:18 kaeza what's up?
21:20 Dogzilla131 the sky
21:21 kaeza wrong
21:21 Octupus XD lolz
21:21 kaeza the first floor
21:21 :)
21:21 OldCoder Dogzilla131, so you can fix the flags block?
21:22 Zeg9 Have to go, bye all!
21:23 STHGOM bye
21:25 kaeza slow
21:29 YAY! just got my 100th forum post!!1!!eleven!!!
21:29 KikaRz ..
21:30 * PilzAdam got over 1000...
21:30 OldCoder All the worlds will shut down for a bit for updates and backups
21:30 STHGOM I don't have any
21:30 OldCoder Doc22, Dogzilla131 warn the others if any on your world
21:30 KikaRz updates of what, OldCodeR'
21:30 ?
21:30 OldCoder KikaRz, minor fixes
21:30 No big deal
21:30 KikaRz what bugs?
21:31 OldCoder They are mostly in Zegaton world
21:31 kaeza PilzAdam: I'll see you when I have my 1000th and you have like 176485 posts :)
21:31 PilzAdam anyone want a hacked client to be able to sprint? https://github.com/PilzAdam/mi[…]c1ea1ecc90b7351f9
21:32 KikaRz No thanks PilzAdam
21:32 NakedFury add that to normal game. the ability to sprint and player stamina
21:32 would be appreciated
21:32 KikaRz just to X Ray
21:32 XD
21:32 OldCoder 17:37:37: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd not found
21:33 I could really use advice
21:33 ALL the worlds are doing that ATM
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21:34 OldCoder
21:34 About 15 worlds are reporting that error
21:34 It may take a while to clean this up
21:34 Ideas would be appreciated
21:34
21:34 KikaRz ok
21:34 I want to give one idea
21:35 OldCoder Feel free
21:35 KikaRz every world got a block symbolizing it.
21:35 john_minetest there is cracking somewhere but i cant find out how it is made. if we knew we could prevent cracking. :/
21:35 NakedFury same error again
21:35 OldCoder NakedFury, yes
21:35 I will fix it but wish to prevent it!
21:38 Worlds are down while I clean this up
21:42 KikaRz Guys
21:42 tell me a ubuntu best editor
21:42 that is more used to edit minetest.conf and other files
21:42 PilzAdam vim for the win
21:42 KikaRz ...
21:42 thexyz PilzAdam: +1
21:43 also try emacs, some people prefer it over vim
21:45 OldCoder PilzAdam, thexyz, NakedFury no thoughts on the corruption I assume
21:45 STHGOM hello?
21:45 ok
21:45 nvm
21:45 how do you make a password?
21:46 PilzAdam OldCoder, you said you want to patch minetest to prevent this
21:46 OldCoder Yes
21:46 PilzAdam and?
21:46 OldCoder Actually the server framework
21:46 It will take about 4 hours for that
21:46 So not today
21:46 Wish to find actual cause if possible
21:46 My fix will be a workaround
21:48 thexyz OldCoder: on players files corruption?
21:48 i can only suggest you to `smartctl -a /dev/sda`
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21:51 OldCoder thexyz, it is a VPS but ty
21:52 thexyz, the issue is truncation to zero length on shutdown
21:54 kaeza .c 1
21:54 MinetestBot 1
21:54 kaeza good
21:54 KikaRz .c 1+1
21:54 MinetestBot 2
21:54 KikaRz GOOD DOG!
21:54 now... 2+2 ?
21:54 .c 2+2
21:54 MinetestBot 4
21:54 kaeza .c fact(3)
21:54 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
21:54 KikaRz Good job... now this is a hard one!
21:54 .c 4+4
21:54 MinetestBot 8
21:54 kaeza .c factorial(3)
21:54 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
21:54 KikaRz OMG, YOU'RE AMAZING
21:54 kaeza how do you do factorials?
21:54 KikaRz final question...
21:55 .c 99999999999999999+999999999999999999999999*2
21:55 MinetestBot 2.0000001 × 10^(24)
21:55 KikaRz you got 59333 QI
21:55 kaeza .c 1e-4
21:55 MinetestBot 0.0001
21:55 KikaRz .c 1pi-4
21:55 MinetestBot -0.858407346
21:55 KikaRz .c 1pi-3
21:55 thexyz OldCoder: well, that basically means i can't suggest anything
21:55 MinetestBot 0.141592654
21:55 thexyz now stop
21:55 FreeFull .c phi
21:55 MinetestBot 1.61803399
21:55 KikaRz thexyz
21:55 whe are just testing bot
21:55 :P
21:55 FreeFull .c tau
21:55 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
21:55 thexyz this is not #bottest
21:56 KikaRz Not my faul
21:56 *fault
21:56 NakedFury completely your fault
21:56 thexyz i'll have to +q you
21:56 KikaRz ... thexyz, kick the bot so.
21:56 NakedFury you keep just messing with it
21:56 kaeza thexyz: is this yours or from sfan?
21:56 KikaRz ... who started? kaeza
21:56 <kaeza> .c 1
21:56 <MinetestBot> 1
21:56 <kaeza> good
21:56 <KikaRz> .c 1+1
21:56 <MinetestBot> 2
21:56 <KikaRz> GOOD DOG!
21:57 kaeza KikaRz: yeah, but I just tested it, not FLOODED it
21:57 NakedFury yes kaeza did it and then you kept doing it
21:57 KikaRz ... kaeza, this is not #bottest
21:57 NakedFury you go over the limit
21:57 KikaRz as thexyz said.
21:57 OldCoder Not this again
21:57 thexyz, ty
21:57 I am busy repairing 15 worlds
21:57 No bot battles please
21:58 kaeza thexyz: is this yours or from sfan?
21:58 KikaRz away
21:58 sfan i guess
21:59 kaeza; your irc bot (minetest) feedback: ill give a 2,3/10
21:59 Reason: Having a LOT of bugs and problems in installing
21:59 kaeza it's not a bot
21:59 KikaRz ...
21:59 IRCBot.
21:59 kaeza and your copy of cmake is broken
21:59 KikaRz no its not.
22:02 RealBadAngel, why you and mesecons mod creator, dont make a fusion and make 2 in 1?
22:03 kaeza KikaRz: because not everybody wants technic?
22:03 KikaRz kaeza, i didnt talked to you.
22:03 kaeza ...
22:07 Garp Are there really some monster at night ?
22:07 I never saw anything yet ?
22:07 KikaRz No
22:07 Just in Caves
22:07 and in 0.4.1 +++ versions are rare
22:08 Garp Is there any tip to find coal and metal ?
22:09 thanks for your anwsre :)
22:09 NakedFury coal and metal= iron I guess are very common
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22:10 Garp Have to read more ;)
22:11 the website doesnt give much informations about gameplay
22:11 NakedFury coal can spawn up to 64+ levels
22:11 kaeza Garp: monsters or "mobs" were removed since 0.4.2 I think
22:11 they are part of mods now
22:12 search the forums for "Animals", "MOB Framework", "Simple Mobs", and "Slimes"
22:13 Garp kaeza: is there a "supported" or "standard" list of mods ?
22:13 kaeza the "standard" mods are part of "minetest_game"
22:14 Garp What appends when adding mods in an already existing world ?
22:14 kaeza depends
22:14 some mods act at map generation phase
22:14 PilzAdam kaeza, not since 0.4.2 but since early 0.4-dev
22:14 kaeza PilzAdam: yes
22:14 sorry
22:15 Garp: other mods act through "ABMs"
22:15 PilzAdam ABM = active block modifier
22:15 kaeza or Active Block Modifiers. i.e: they work in realtime
22:16 Garp I see
22:16 PilzAdam the spawning is the only downside of my Simple Mobs mod
22:16 kaeza yet others provide global things like new chat commands
22:16 PilzAdam after some time your whole world is full of sheep
22:17 kaeza PilzAdam: yeah :)
22:17 PilzAdam and Im currently too lazy to implement something on mapgen
22:18 kaeza Garp: If you're looking for recommendations
22:18 I suggest farming farming_plus, plantlife, moreblocks, moreores
22:18 PilzAdam I suggest to wait until farming is upstream
22:19 kaeza If you're into FPS-ish things (something like Ace of Spades) I suggest gunmod and rifle
22:20 PilzAdam: what's new in farming? haven't checked in a while
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22:20 OldCoder Dogzilla131, is there a new moreflags?
22:20 PilzAdam kaeza, nothing
22:20 kaeza oh
22:21 Garp: you still there?
22:22 Garp Yes, a bit lost ;)
22:22 I just would like some bad stuff to get a reason to build things against
22:22 kaeza so was I my first time in MT
22:23 NakedFury right now only players would be bad stuff for you
22:23 no monsters yet
22:23 Garp OK, I see.
22:23 Then I'll connect to existing servers to see
22:23 NakedFury doesn't mean there won't be
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22:24 PilzAdam if you are paranoid you dont need mobs...
22:24 Garp Well, hom many lines would change a sheep into something able to do damage like a player ?
22:24 lol PilzAdam
22:24 kaeza vombies and dungeon masters do
22:24 OldCoder U.S. worlds work is proceeding. Would anybody like new mods or fixes?
22:25 PilzAdam Ill got to sleep now
22:25 kaeza OldCoder: is there a PvP server?
22:25 OldCoder c u
22:25 PilzAdam bye
22:25 kaeza bye Adam
22:25 OldCoder kaeza, several IIRC
22:25 jordan4ibanez joined #minetest
22:26 kaeza now checking...
22:26 OldCoder: can you recommend one?
22:28 OldCoder kaeza, Octuworld was intended to be a battle world and has an arena
22:28 Right now the people build and don't fight
22:28 But drop in and ask them about the arena
22:28 world is 30004
22:28 at minetest.org
22:28 Shut down for a while longer ATM
22:28 I am fixing corruption
22:29 kaeza OldCoder: thank you
22:29 OldCoder np
22:32 kaeza Garp: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629
22:34 Garp kaeza: thanks. What is a "reasonable fast machine" ?
22:34 kaeza IDK
22:34 Garp WARNING: you need a reasonable fast machine with enough memory for animals. Minetest behaves REALLY bad if you hit the limits of your machine! GitHub Issue 229
22:34 kaeza I have an Intel E5700 Dual-Core @3.1 GHz(x2)
22:35 Garp I'll try :) lets see
22:37 john_minetest gtg, bye
22:37 Garp Well. I'm downloading some zip archive. I'll still have to see what to do with it
22:37 milleja46 joined #minetest
22:37 STHGOM bye
22:40 Garp Adding animal creeper
22:40 Seems to do something
22:40 opticlove joined #minetest
22:41 Garp 23:40:13: ACTION[ServerThread]: MOBF: BUG!!! didn't find a way to stop mob at(388.75,-23.00000038147,128.22668457031) from running into water or dropping
22:41 kaeza that's common
22:41 don't mind it
22:42 oh and beware of big balls at night :)
22:42 Ssssssssssssssss... KABOOOMM!!!
22:43 Garp I got hit by stuff
22:43 Dont know what
22:43 oes it come from ground or above ?
22:44 kaeza Garp: the balls?
22:44 Garp the stuff. Id didnt saw what it was
22:44 just got red flashes
22:45 kaeza they are meant to mimic these things: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/Creeper
22:45 except they are big balls :)
22:46 Garp I read...
22:47 top
22:48 STHGOM joined #minetest
22:48 Garp eat a lot of cpu !
22:49 kaeza unfortunately yes :(
23:03 .sv
23:03 ummm...
23:03 STHGOM quiet
23:04 kaeza oh
23:04 STHGOM is zeg9 server off?
23:05 kaeza dunno
23:05 STHGOM i cant join
23:06 could we do voice chat?
23:06 not that i want to right now...
23:07 kaeza Skype :)
23:08 STHGOM lol
23:08 I don't have Skype
23:08 OldCoder
23:08 All U.S. worlds are restarted
23:08 Please report problems. There are some important changes!
23:09 NakedFury ??
23:09 OldCoder More Flags has been updated. That is a minor one.
23:09 NakedFury, Mostly under the hood
23:09 NakedFury what do you mean by flags?
23:09 OldCoder NakedFury, I have an experiment fix for the player corruption problem
23:09 More Flags
23:09 is Dogzilla mod
23:09 That is a minor issue. Just a mod update.
23:09 * experimental
23:09 NakedFury is it as simple as adding flags as in nation flags for looking nice or something else?
23:10 kaeza OldCoder: I'm gonna test it
23:10 OldCoder NakedFury, Adding nation flags to decorate
23:10 NakedFury, Not one of the "important changes"
23:10 kaeza, ty
23:10 STHGOM zeg9 server is in france i think
23:10 OldCoder STHGOM, No
23:10 NakedFury ok
23:10 OldCoder STHGOM, Zeg9 server is me now
23:10 STHGOM ohh
23:10 OldCoder Lots of Zeg9 changes today
23:10 STHGOM you can call me sparky if you want to
23:11 OldCoder Zeg9 players please report problems
23:11 O.K. sparky
23:11 STHGOM thats who i am im minetest
23:11 OldCoder k
23:11 STHGOM STHGOM stands for: sparky the happy girrafe on minetest
23:11 OldCoder STHGOM, yes I see you in Zegaton
23:11 Feel free to join other worlds here
23:11 STHGOM is in on?
23:11 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
23:11 It is on now
23:11 STHGOM minetest.org?
23:12 OldCoder Yes
23:12 http://minetest.org/ has list
23:12 STHGOM wow you type faaaaaaaaast
23:12 OldCoder He is port 30015
23:12 No slow
23:12 hand is injured
23:12 so very slow these days
23:12 STHGOM zegs?
23:12 ?
23:13 kaeza anyone interested? https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc
23:13 OldCoder R
23:14 Oh yes
23:14 STHGOM ok I'm on minetest.org port 30015
23:14 just to let everyone know...
23:14 OldCoder STHGOM, Yep
23:14 kaeza, Very interested!!
23:14 kaeza OldCoder: what is "R"?
23:14 you keep saying that
23:14 OldCoder R is for reading or reviewing
23:14 kaeza ok sorry
23:14 OldCoder Code looks useful
23:15 Shall we make mods and gateway the worlds to their own channels?
23:15 kaeza join #minetest-irc-testing to see a demo
23:15 OldCoder kaeza, Shall I start adding it?
23:15 How far has it been tested?
23:16 I wish to try this now
23:16 Proceeding
23:17 kaeza the README may be a bit out of date
23:18 OldCoder It is
23:18 Explain install and we will proceed right now
23:19 kaeza, ^
23:19 kaeza open up a cmd prompt/terminal
23:19 OldCoder I have done cmake and make
23:19 What next?
23:19 kaeza ok
23:20 OldCoder I am familiar with builds :-)
23:20 kaeza now ./packmod.sh or packmod.bat depending on os
23:20 OldCoder Have done 10,000s of them
23:20 Error: Couldn't find luasocket lib.
23:20 Did you compile before running this script?
23:20 kaeza you may have to chmod +x it
23:20 OldCoder I did compile
23:20 The script? No
23:20 It works
23:21 kaeza umm... that's strange
23:21 KikaRz had the same problem
23:21 OldCoder I will need to review further I guess
23:22 kaeza see if there's a src/luasocket/luasocket.dll or so
23:22 OldCoder .so
23:22 The script is wrong
23:22 Reviewing
23:22 Fixed it
23:22 Now what?
23:23 Copy irc folder to mods folder?
23:23 Where is channel specified?
23:23 kaeza yes
23:23 in init.lua
23:23 OldCoder Where is channel specified?
23:23 k
23:24 kaeza CHANNEL=...
23:24 local CHANNEL = ...
23:24 OldCoder Got it
23:24 Doc22, kaeza tell people on octuteam world I am restarting to add a fun feature
23:25 kaeza I'm not in currently
23:25 sorry
23:25 OldCoder k
23:26 kaeza OldCoder: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10000[…]ot_1489004061.jpg
23:26 OldCoder R
23:26 Yep
23:27 thexyz shaders are now in master, nice, before: http://i.imgur.com/GzThO.png, after: http://i.imgur.com/CBqtf.png
23:27 kaeza thexyz: cool
23:27 NakedFury very cool
23:28 going forward smoothly. after shaders is sun shadows
23:29 STHGOM bye
23:30 Dogzilla131 joined #minetest
23:30 OldCoder kaeza, thx but not working in Octuteam world
23:30 Dogzilla131, hi
23:30 kaeza hey Dogzilla131
23:31 OldCoder kaeza, I changed the channel and copied the irc folder into the mods folder
23:31 Restarted the world
23:32 Nothing happens with the mod
23:32 local CHANNEL = "##octuteam";
23:32 I did that
23:32 kaeza wait until it stops reading the MOTD
23:32 OldCoder I did
23:33 kaeza look if there is an "mt_game" user in "##octuteam"
23:33 OldCoder k
23:33 Reentering
23:33 No
23:33 kaeza hmmm
23:33 wait
23:33 OldCoder Client is not in world
23:34 minetest/games/octuteam_game/mods/irc
23:34 Mod folder is there
23:34 ftp.lua   irc.lua                LICENSE.txt  smtp.lua
23:34 http.lua  libluasocket.so        ltn12.lua    socket.lua
23:34 init.lua  LICENSE-LuaIRC.txt     mime.lua     tp.lua
23:34 irc       LICENSE-luasocket.txt  README.txt   url.lua
23:34 Those are contents of irc mod folder
23:35 Dogzilla131 hi
23:36 Uberi joined #minetest
23:36 Dogzilla131 hey to you put sound in the game
23:37 how
23:39 Uberi simion314: hey
23:39 simion314 Uberi: hi
23:39 thx for the fix
23:40 was this a regresion? it is strange this was not reported
23:40 Uberi well not really
23:40 frankly, the old behavior was far worse
23:40 you could potentially crash the server with one of those things
23:41 simion314 Uberi: do you mean with my build? it is  comon to push piston with other pistons
23:42 I am wondering why it updated properly if I cut then fix the wire, is other update function?
23:42 Uberi simion314: yeah, there are a bunch of other places that can update it
23:42 simion314 hard to maintain that
23:43 Uberi indeed
23:43 needs a refactor, in my opinion
23:43 simion314 I imagine is hard to do the block updates, the order of updating seems important
23:44 Uberi not too significant, there's a checked list that makes sure each node is on;y recalculated once
23:44 simion314 I am new to lua, could it be posible to make the code more OOP?
23:46 Uberi there isn't too much point to it, IMO
23:47 the mesecon namespace is encapsulation enough, if you ask me
23:47 simion314 Uberi: any idea if an ABBA switch can be program in the microcontroler? or I have to use the delayers?
23:47 Uberi simion314: please elaborate
23:47 a T-FF?
23:48 simion314 not sure, turn A on then turn B on, then turn B off then A off
23:48 it needs delays ,not sure if those can be programmed
23:48 Uberi hmm, there are a few bugs with uc's after(), so you might need to use an external clock source and an internal state machine
23:49 you can do it with two nodes though
23:49 lemme give it a try
23:51 jordan4ibanez Lol i created the quarry from buildcraft in minetest
23:52 simion314 ABBa is used when you push a piston with other piston, first piston extends, then the second one and later you need second piston to pull first then the first one
23:52 Uberi oh making a double piston extender?
23:52 I have one in a 2x2 configuration
23:52 simion314 I love making hidden dors and stuf like that with pistons but I hate that theis things requiere a lot of space and wires or redstone on the floor
23:53 jordan4ibanez Idea: Wireless mesecons
23:53 Uberi jordan4ibanez: v0.4 had them, but the mesecons rewrite broke it :(
23:53 it's on my todo list right now
23:53 jordan4ibanez Use signs to make them, like the bukkit mod
23:55 STHGOM joined #minetest
23:55 Uberi simion314: http://www.pasteall.org/37687
23:55 STHGOM hallooo
23:55 Uberi hey STHGOM
23:56 kaeza simion314: try this: on(A)on(B)if(C)off(B)off(A)
23:56 then connect either A or B to a delayer or a micro with after()
23:56 Uberi kaeza: nah, that needs delays to work
23:56 kaeza and make it connect to C
23:56 Uberi kaeza: the schematic I pasted above does that :P
23:57 except it has some additional logic to make sure it correctly pulls the last node
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