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01:06 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv5/v7/fractal: Add 'large_cave_depth' parameter to replace fixed value b823709 https://git.io/vQU7G (2017-06-21T00:58:04Z)
01:06 MinetestBot [git] nybble41 -> minetest/minetest: Inventory: Make addItem for empty ItemStacks respect max stack size e6a9e60 https://git.io/vQU7Z (2017-06-21T00:53:57Z)
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01:56 AntumDeluge To de-register/delete an item from the game, is all I have to do is remove it from the 'minetest.registered_items' & 'minetest.registered_craftitems' tables? Or is there more to it? The only method that I found is 'minetest.override_item', but that registers the same item name with a different definition. I want to completely remove an item from the game without having to modify the original mod that created it.
02:06 AlexYst AntumDeluge: Deleting them from the tables isn't enough. Hold on, I think I saw the function you need. I'll look it up.
02:07 AlexYst AntumDeluge: minetest.unregister_item(name)
02:08 * KaadmY stares
02:08 AlexYst Don't even bother with the tables, that function will clean all that out for you when it does the rest of its thing.
02:09 AlexYst KaadmY: Hmm?
02:09 KaadmY Oh, just the name seemed kinda obvious in hindsight :P
02:10 AlexYst Ha ha, yeah, I just searched the doc file for "unregister". I was fairly certain that's what the name was, but wanted to be sure before giving any advice.
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02:11 AntumDeluge Thank you AlexYst, I guess the wiki isn't up to date?
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02:11 AlexYst AntumDeluge: Yeah, the wiki's not up to date. I've been running into outdated information in the wiki too, but there doesn't seem to be a way to register an account there to update it.
02:12 AntumDeluge Thank you, I appreciate your help.
02:12 AlexYst Yeah, no problem.
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03:12 tumeninodes can anyone help this user on an android build? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&t=17937
03:13 tumeninodes not sure if they know how t connect to irc. so I am asking for them. has no sun or moon in sky
03:15 tumeninodes and is not using skybox mod. thank you
03:15 Miner_48er Are they using the official app? If so what version?
03:16 tumeninodes Miner_48er, I am not sure. I know zilch regarding the android build. I mentioned for them to come here but, they may not know how.
03:17 tumeninodes they are asking for help on the forum post
03:24 tumeninodes Miner_48er, thank you. nite
03:24 Miner_48er ok posted a link to the IRC
03:25 Miner_48er thank you
03:25 tumeninodes sounds like a really odd issue
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03:26 bigfoot547 Lol tumeninodes doesn't have a IRC client
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03:31 tumeninodes bigfoot547, thpltpltpltplt :D
03:32 bigfoot547 bhlsib
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03:34 tumeninodes not nice to poke fun at the elderly :P
03:34 bigfoot547 Ur elderly?
03:34 tumeninodes nah, just lazy
03:34 bigfoot547 lol
03:34 bigfoot547 Me too
03:34 tumeninodes lazy rules!
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03:36 bigfoot547 Hi
03:36 wilkgr hi
03:36 tumeninodes registering split personalities?
03:36 bigfoot547 Maybe
03:37 bigfoot547 but they would be named something like this
03:37 tumeninodes wait... don;t do i.... uh, nvm
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03:38 bigfoot547 Yep
03:38 tumeninodes maybe I'll use tumeninads
03:39 bigfoot547 You can't have a hidden host besides *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.*
03:39 tumeninodes I am so obsolete, I have not used irc since last around 2009
03:40 bigfoot547 So *!*@gateway/web/freenode/* and *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/* are quieted on #minetest-dev
03:42 tumeninodes well, ya can't have a bunch o nuts poppin in and out of -dev
03:43 bigfoot547 Yep
03:43 tumeninodes wait??? then how do devs get in there?
03:43 tumeninodes :D
03:44 bigfoot547 They use an IRC client and an unaffiliated cloak/hidden host
03:44 tumeninodes sneaky buggers
03:44 bigfoot547 Just go onto #freenode and ask for an unaffiliated cloak/
03:44 bigfoot547 Then you can be cool
03:45 bigfoot547 ~bigfoot54@unaffiliated/bigfoot547
03:45 tumeninodes is too lazy to be cool
03:45 tumeninodes I was already cool once...
03:45 bigfoot547 Naw, it's not hard
03:47 bigfoot547 Because you might not want ~smuxi@2601:18c:cf7f:a640:c566:b87c:2bbb:8c55 to be your hidden host
03:47 tumeninodes but that's mah name
03:47 bigfoot547 smuxi?
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03:48 tumeninodes it was supposed to be schmuck but... wouldnt allow it
03:48 tumeninodes haha
03:48 tumeninodes smuxi would be a cool name though
03:50 bigfoot547 2601:18c:cf7f:a640:c566:b87c:2bbb:8c55 must be some sort of encryption key
03:50 tumeninodes not sure, never used smuxi before
03:52 tumeninodes I can't remember which client I used back in 2009
03:53 bigfoot547 hexchat!
03:53 tumeninodes I don't think so
03:54 tumeninodes man my brain is so fried :P
03:54 tumeninodes it would have been the default for PCLinuxOS back then
03:55 bigfoot547 xchat
03:55 tumeninodes this smuxi may be a bit more than what I need
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03:57 tumeninodes possibly
03:57 bigfoot547 Just ask for an unaffiliated cloak for schmuck. They'll hook you up ;)
03:57 tumeninodes hahahaha
03:58 tumeninodes they must be a bit more reserved regarding names now though, compared to back then
03:58 tumeninodes freenode was a bit more laid back then
03:59 bigfoot547 Yeah, they were a bit more laid
03:59 bigfoot547 back then
04:00 tumeninodes weren't we all???
04:00 bigfoot547 loool
04:00 tumeninodes o_o
04:02 tumeninodes did you ever try smuxi?
04:03 bigfoot547 Did you ever try google feud?
04:03 tumeninodes no
04:03 bigfoot547 Oh,
04:03 bigfoot547 I'm sorry for your loss :(
04:03 tumeninodes family feud
04:04 bigfoot547 http://www.googlefeud.com/
04:04 tumeninodes ha I guessed well, kinda based on the idea of family feud
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04:06 bigfoot547 Well, this is good night!
04:06 tumeninodes late here... and old folk gotsta sleep
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04:08 tumeninodes ttyl
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05:51 MinetestBot [git] Ezhh -> minetest/minetest: Fix console resize issue when maximising game window (#6023) 76074ad https://git.io/vQTvy (2017-06-21T05:50:57Z)
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06:06 MinetestBot [git] Dumbeldor -> minetest/minetest: C++11 cleanup on constructors dir client (#6012) af3badf https://git.io/vQTf6 (2017-06-21T06:04:45Z)
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06:29 MinetestBot [git] Dumbeldor -> minetest/minetest: C++11 cleanup on constructors dir network (#6021) 8daf5b5 https://git.io/vQTUe (2017-06-21T06:28:57Z)
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08:34 sigz I found a "language" option in minetest.conf, I changed it to "fr" but it didn't changed language in gui. What is this parameter intended for ? (is there a way to change the default gui language?)
08:35 Calinou sigz: is your build compiled with gettext support? if not, only English is supported
08:35 Calinou else, many more languages are supported (including French, which should be automatically used if it's the system language)
08:37 sigz I used the archlinux build
08:38 sigz I didn't compiler anything
08:38 sigz compiled
08:38 sigz I have no idea if it's compiled with gettext
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08:49 MinetestBot [git] juhdanad -> minetest/minetest: Fix render order of overlays (#6008) 12aad73 https://git.io/vQTs6 (2017-06-21T08:47:31Z)
08:55 sfan5 sigz: the archlinux build should support gettext
08:56 sfan5 and it definitely works for me
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09:21 sigz ok the aur/minetest-git package works with translations for me
09:22 sigz but not the community/minetest
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09:31 sfan5 i have the community package and it works
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09:51 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Cpp11 initializers: last src root changeset (#6022) 1425c6d https://git.io/vQTlg (2017-06-21T09:51:29Z)
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14:32 Raven262 Hello MinetestBot
14:32 MinetestBot Hey Raven262.
14:33 red-001 bye MinetestBot
14:34 Raven262 MinetestBot doesn't want to go it seems.
14:34 Raven262 .seen red-001
14:34 Raven262 !seen red-001
14:34 MinetestBot Raven262: red-001 was last seen at 2017-06-21 14:33:36 UTC on #minetest
14:34 Raven262 hmmm
14:34 Raven262 !seen Amaz
14:34 MinetestBot Raven262: amaz was last seen at 2017-06-02 17:18:39 UTC on #minetest
14:34 Raven262 thats been 19 days since he left :/
14:44 Raven262 !seen it here either. maybe you should check here, there and
14:44 MinetestBot Raven262: Sorry, I haven't seen it around.
14:44 Raven262 damn
14:44 Raven262 why are you so much more advanced than that UtterlyUseless bot?
14:45 red-001 because someone though about english grammer injection
14:46 Raven262 :P
14:46 Raven262 *grammar
14:49 lisac !seen
14:49 MinetestBot lisac: Need a nickname to search for...
14:49 lisac !seen test
14:49 MinetestBot lisac: test was last seen at 2017-03-16 04:10:45 UTC on #minetest
14:49 lisac omg omg
14:50 Raven262 we are onto something
14:50 lisac I know! Penguins have done it.
14:50 red-001 !seen Lord_buckethead
14:50 MinetestBot red-001: lord_buckethead was last seen at 2017-06-13 16:59:58 UTC on #minetest
14:50 red-001 ~seen Lord_buckethead
14:50 ShadowBot red-001: I haven't seen Lord_buckethead in #minetest.
14:50 red-001 ...
14:51 DS-minetest ShadowBot is blind
14:51 ShadowBot DS-minetest: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:51 DS-minetest ShadowBot: i didn't write to you, I wrote about you… :P
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16:21 Nexus24680 Hello?
16:22 rubenwardy hi
16:22 Nexus24680 I'm having a problem with Minetest
16:24 Nexus24680 Before we talk, is this irc bugged or answers really take ages to come?
16:24 Nexus24680 It's just a question
16:24 Nexus24680 Not trying to be rude
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16:24 VanessaE it's working fine, Nexus24680
16:25 VanessaE just a slow day is all
16:25 Nexus24680 Well, my Minetest problem is:
16:25 Nexus24680 I can see the sun or moon
16:25 Nexus24680 *can't
16:25 Nexus24680 I can only see sunrise and sky and clouds
16:26 Nexus24680 I've changed my subgame and texture and reinstalled and everything
16:26 Nexus24680 I'm on Android if that helps
16:26 red-001 I do seem to recall something like that being an issue
16:26 red-001 I could be wrong
16:27 Nexus24680 Any ideas on how can this be fixed?
16:27 red-001 it was something to do with openel
16:27 red-001 dunno try searching github for that issue
16:28 red-001 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3155
16:28 red-001 yeah old issue
16:28 red-001 !title
16:28 MinetestBot red-001: Moon, Sun and Stars on Android · Issue #3155 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
16:29 red-001 even 200$ can't convince anyone to fix it
16:29 Nexus24680 So I'm just gonna have to live with it?
16:29 Nexus24680 😥
16:29 red-001 I suppose so
16:29 Nexus24680 Anyone else knows how to fix this?
16:31 Nexus24680 I even changed the texture pack to one that has sun and moon to no avail
16:31 red-001 I think anyone that knows a fix would be quite eager to get that 200 dollar bounty
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16:34 Nexus24680 Aw man
16:35 red-001 huh
16:35 red-001 I can't find where sun.png is
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16:40 Nexus24680 I download another texture pack that has them
16:40 Nexus24680 It's called Vattic Faithful 32x
16:40 Nexus24680 It's for Minetest
16:41 bigfoot547 That is a good texture pack.
16:41 bigfoot547 It was converted from a minecraft one
16:41 Nexus24680 I know 😀
16:42 PureTryOut[m] Faithful is lovely
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16:44 bigfoot547 The guy who made another tpack for minecraft 1.12 w/ all different textures but the same idea is possibly even better
16:45 bigfoot547 Have you seen that one?
16:45 bigfoot547 Vattic stopped updating the textures at 1.8
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16:46 Nexus24680_ And it has sun and moon
16:46 Nexus24680_ .png
16:46 Nexus24680_ Files
16:46 Nexus24680_ But Mineteat for Android doesn't recognize them
16:48 Calinou there's unofficial updates of Faithful 32x by the way
16:48 Calinou some go to 1.11 at least
16:49 Nexus24680_ So (going back to my problem) it doesn't have a solution?
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16:52 Nexus24680_ Hey TumeniNodes
16:53 tumeninodes #Hi
16:53 Nexus24680_ Unfortunately, there's no solution
16:53 Nexus24680_ 😥😥😥
16:53 tumeninodes so, sounds like a rendering issue for android
16:53 tumeninodes sorry
16:54 Nexus24680_ Does any of you has that in PC?
16:54 tumeninodes do you still get the day night cycle though? just no sun and moon textures?
16:54 Nexus24680_ Yep
16:55 Nexus24680_ Full Day Night Cycle
16:55 Nexus24680_ But no Moon or Sun
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16:55 tumeninodes well, you could pretend it's just very cloudy :P
16:55 Nexus24680_ But cloudy everyday?
16:55 tumeninodes hey! I just saw bigfoot!
16:55 Nexus24680_ 😕
16:56 tumeninodes maybe you live in U.K.?
16:56 Nexus24680_ BTW I have another problem
16:56 tumeninodes uh oh
16:57 Nexus24680_ Everytime I generate a new map, I end up on a desert or a snow desert with no trees
16:57 Nexus24680_ I don't know if that's is a mapgen issue
16:58 tumeninodes it's just where you're spawning, I don't know anything about the Android build
17:00 Nexus24680_ Well, the forum and this are very alike
17:01 Nexus24680_ I didn't got a solution in any of them
17:01 Nexus24680_ And responses are a little bit faster on here
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17:01 Raven262 do try to change the seed.
17:01 rubenwardy you say that, tumeninodes
17:01 rubenwardy but I've yet to see a cloud
17:01 rubenwardy other than a puff
17:02 Nexus24680_ OK, I have a question
17:02 tumeninodes rubenwardy I wish I lived in the U.K. to be honest
17:02 rubenwardy tumeninodes, https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/2gSIrIyOC.jpg
17:02 Nexus24680_ Does anyone knows how to find villages (mg_villages mod)?
17:02 Raven262 Don't you spawn in one when the game starts?
17:02 Nexus24680_ Nope
17:03 Raven262 Hmmm
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17:03 Nexus24680_ Not for me
17:03 Raven262 Strange, are you sure that the mod is enabled?
17:03 rubenwardy 32°C right now, tumeninodes
17:03 tumeninodes omg that's a beautiful scene
17:03 rubenwardy 90°F
17:03 rubenwardy :)
17:04 rubenwardy it's Bristol gorge
17:04 Raven262 https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=13589 try this one
17:04 rubenwardy wait no, Avon gorge (in Bristol)
17:04 tumeninodes hahaha you're lost
17:05 Nexus24680_ Yes, it's activated
17:05 tumeninodes North East coast of U.S. we've had "off" weather
17:05 rubenwardy tumeninodes, that photo was taken from this bridge: http://visitbristol.co.uk/imageresizer/?image=%2Fd​msimgs%2Fsuspension-3.jpg&action=ProductDetail
17:05 Nexus24680_ You know why this happens to me?
17:05 Nexus24680_ Because I'm Bat...Bugman
17:05 Raven262 lol
17:06 Raven262 I don't know if the mg_villages mod itself spawns the villages on the player spawn but the modpack maybe does.
17:06 Raven262 *village
17:06 Raven262 SInce i never used mg_villages alone
17:07 tumeninodes omg I'm droolin
17:07 tumeninodes closest I have to me is the French King Bridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_King_Bridge
17:07 tumeninodes one of my favorite spots to go
17:08 Raven262 Hello MinetestBot
17:08 MinetestBot sup Raven262.
17:09 Raven262 !seen lisac
17:09 MinetestBot Raven262: lisac was last seen at 2017-06-21 14:50:27 UTC on #minetest
17:09 Raven262 ah
17:09 rubenwardy pretty :)
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17:09 tumeninodes I used to be able to get under it on a maint. bridge which runs under but they have gated it off
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17:12 tumeninodes we have some nice things here but nothing compared to the U.K. as far as architecture
17:12 Raven262 Guess why
17:12 Raven262 UK has history
17:13 tumeninodes Raven262 this is true
17:13 Nexus24680 Guys, what subpack you recommend me if I want Minetest to be only survival with no monsters
17:13 Raven262 That is basically why i would never want to live in the US.
17:13 Nexus24680 Just survival
17:13 Raven262 Hunger mod
17:14 Nexus24680 But with animals ofc
17:14 Raven262 YOu can enable animals without monsters afaik
17:14 Raven262 thats in mobs_redo
17:15 Nexus24680 BTW Is there any way modifying CarboneNG or AdventireTest to not have monsters
17:16 Raven262 also i would recommend: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12845
17:16 Raven262 Ask the makers of those
17:16 Raven262 i think Calinou made carbone
17:17 Calinou Nexus24680: there's minetest.conf settings you can set
17:17 tumeninodes I like Carbone
17:18 Nexus24680 Well, maybe all of you know already, but I'm a newbie
17:18 Raven262 also if you like jumping/traps and scifi bases you can use: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=15199
17:18 Nexus24680 I know the basics and how to install subgames and everything
17:19 Raven262 minetest.conf is not that hard to find
17:19 Raven262 its location depends on your OS
17:20 Raven262 in linux its ~/.minetest/
17:20 Raven262 in windows its in your minetest folder
17:20 Nexus24680 Yeah, but I mean removing monsters down to the code of the mob
17:20 Nexus24680 Like recoding the mod again
17:20 Raven262 No need to do that
17:21 Raven262 there is a setting in minetest.conf which enables monsters, just set it to false instead of true and it'll work
17:21 Raven262 though i think you'll need to run carbone once for it to appear in the conf
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17:24 tumeninodes I have not checked but, did someone change the settings for destroy while in creative? seems extremely fast suddenly in 0.4.16
17:25 tumeninodes been meaning to ask that
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17:26 Nexus24680 Little question
17:26 Nexus24680 Does everyone sees your IP here?
17:26 Raven262 Possibly
17:26 Raven262 Depends on your client/settings
17:26 Raven262 Mine can be seen i think
17:26 Raven262 alternatively you can use /whois
17:28 tumeninodes Raven I live in US and wish I didn't. More due to not liking US society much :P
17:28 Nexus24680 Like this?
17:28 rubenwardy Nexus24680, yes
17:28 rubenwardy the only way to stop people from seeing your IP is using a bouncer
17:28 rubenwardy you'll see that I'm using one currently
17:29 rubenwardy rubenwardy@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xuafqyuciksqnnyl
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17:29 tumeninodes I'm gonna use my neighbor's IP
17:29 rubenwardy you can hide you IP by getting a cloak, but it's still possible to get the IP
17:29 Raven262 tumeninodes, how so? I think there are some good people anywhere, you don't have to be friend to all of them.
17:29 rubenwardy so a bouncer (or VPN) is the only way
17:29 Nexus24680 BTW is there a way to place blocks without having to doubleclick
17:29 Nexus24680 I mean double tap
17:29 Nexus24680 Android
17:29 Raven262 Yes, use PC
17:29 Raven262 xD
17:30 Nexus24680 Funny, but seriously, is there any way?
17:30 Raven262 When i make a server, I'll most likely ban android clients.
17:30 Raven262 I don't know if there is a key bind
17:30 tumeninodes Raven, just mostly immature, follower type personalities
17:31 Raven262 tumeninodes, thats everywhere
17:31 Raven262 thats actually how i would describe these people here
17:31 Raven262 :P
17:31 Raven262 Not all, but almost all.
17:31 tumeninodes true, it's moreso just society as whole these days ha
17:32 Raven262 Its how it always was
17:32 tumeninodes android is a tough customer
17:32 Raven262 Why do you people think that your time is so special?
17:32 Nexus24680 BTW Any subgames to make this behaving more like MC
17:32 Raven262 It is like any other time, and will be remembered like any other time.
17:32 tumeninodes sorry, I switch back n forth in convo
17:32 Raven262 Yes, Nexus24680, moment i'll send you a link
17:33 Raven262 https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407
17:34 rubenwardy ^
17:34 rubenwardy that's a good one
17:34 tumeninodes I have met people from many places, and find most Americans are definitely more obnoxious than others
17:35 tumeninodes yep, Wuzzy's doing really good job with that
17:35 Nexus24680 Does it has villages?
17:36 Raven262 Seems so.
17:37 Nexus24680 Because I'm looking for one that has villages and I can't find one
17:38 Raven262 That one should have it
17:38 Raven262 I think.
17:39 Nexus24680 OK.
17:39 Nexus24680 Let me mod that mod then
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17:39 IhrFussel Raven262, you were probably joking but if I were you I wouldn't want to exclude ~75% of the user base on my server
17:39 Raven262 Yes, i know
17:40 Raven262 Its probably 80% of clients in all of the server combined
17:40 tumeninodes Im not sure Mineclone2 has villages as of yet
17:40 Raven262 *servers
17:40 Raven262 Well if it doesn't
17:40 Raven262 try combining it with that villages modpack
17:40 tumeninodes there's a few villages mods
17:40 Raven262 the Sokomine's one is probably the best one
17:40 Raven262 if there are any others
17:41 IhrFussel 90% of them don't know what the heck they are doing...they don't even know that they are playing on a MT server since their app is most likely a clone ... but a few of them can actually be very cooperative and willing to learn about the whole scamming situation
17:41 tumeninodes yes, there is a new one released the other day seems nice
17:42 Raven262 IhrFussel, on craig's server, there was this specific clone players really used often, it was based on an outdated version of minetest.
17:42 Nexus24680 I have installed like 5 villages mods and none of them work
17:42 Raven262 Craig's server used unified inventory or something
17:42 Raven262 that would crash their client instantly
17:42 tumeninodes https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=17915 ErrorNull's work
17:42 Raven262 guess how we found the people who used the client
17:43 Raven262 ErrorNull has done nice work on villagers, rather than villages
17:43 tumeninodes I've been corrected, sorry :P
17:44 Raven262 xD
17:44 IhrFussel The app will crash in many situations on Android due to low RAM and too many other apps running in the background ... it can happen during connect, when opening inventory, when entering a loaded area etc
17:45 tumeninodes Sokomine's work has been very good
17:45 IhrFussel By loaded I mean many nodes placed especially mesh nodes are deadly on Android
17:46 Raven262 RIP homedecor and moreblocks then
17:46 rubenwardy moreblocks doesn't have that much
17:46 rubenwardy mostly homedecor and technic :)
17:46 Raven262 yes, i forgot technic
17:47 Raven262 That is probably one of the best mods out here, massive work has been put in it
17:47 tumeninodes Imagine the Android devices of tomorrow
17:48 IhrFussel There are already Android phones/tablets with 2+ GB RAM ... those have zero issues with MT servers...but look at the price of those "flagship" devices
17:48 Raven262 And android on them lol
17:48 Raven262 Better install some linux
17:48 tumeninodes they're just running the same course as pc's did
17:49 IhrFussel You get a smartphone with 512 MB RAM for $30 ... want 1 GB? Expect to pay at least $50 ... 2 GB RAM starts at $150 I think
17:51 Krock or 3 gigs for $120, if you find an used phone which is still in good condition
17:51 tumeninodes you know someone, somewhere has an android device with 16Gb ram, some unworldly processor, etc... just biding their time to hit the shelves
17:51 Raven262 Thats actually quite common here, the 2Gb RAM on android
17:51 Krock my phone has actually 2x more cores than this PC here..
17:51 Raven262 At least i have had a tablet with 1Gb
17:52 Raven262 lol RIP PC
17:52 Raven262 specs?
17:52 tumeninodes I bought the Nexus7 when it originally came out for my kid
17:52 IhrFussel They are holsing back the CPUs/RAM chips because they know they can trick the customers...many people think "this is the best technology you can have in phones" NOO it's not
17:52 IhrFussel holding*
17:53 tumeninodes the screen got cracked at a friend's house so I took it away and forgot about it actually
17:53 Raven262 Of course its not, their evolution is a bit too slow looking from this perspective.
17:53 tumeninodes now I find to replace the screen will cost 1/2 what I paid for it...
17:54 Raven262 Buy a new device, of course, only way with those :P
17:54 Raven262 Its all only a big evil plan on how to get money out of your pockets :P
17:54 tumeninodes of course they do that... they think consumers are dumb..., and they are right
17:54 Raven262 Those who need a phone with 2Gb ram quite are
17:55 Raven262 I don't see a use for such a device
17:55 tumeninodes and they know people will always pull out the almighty plastic to have all they cannot actually afford to have, to show off to and or keep up with their friends
17:55 Raven262 yes.
17:56 IhrFussel I still wonder WHY in this day and age NOBODY supposedly came up with a new battery tech ... it's kinda hard to believe
17:57 Raven262 Storing energy is a bit hard, you have to place it somewhere, which depletes a little, and you have to store it, which depletes it a little over time, then you have to use it, which also depletes it during the transition and actual use.
17:57 tumeninodes well, they did come out with the battery / incendiary device
17:57 IhrFussel All phones use Li-Ion or Li-Poly AFAIK...since 2000 or so
17:58 Raven262 Most of the lightweight devices do
17:58 Raven262 Like drones
17:59 tumeninodes you also have people who leave the device plugged in almost 24/7, which puts strain on these batteries
17:59 Raven262 I was told that those batteries should be recharged only when completely empty
18:00 Raven262 And that that makes the battery's life longer
18:00 tumeninodes you could tell people that numerous times per day... and still they will not care
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18:01 IhrFussel Raven262, umm that is actually wrong...the best way to charge them is 30 - 70% ... as oon as they reached 70% unplug and use till 30%
18:01 Raven262 Thanks for the info, IhrFussel
18:01 red-001 I'm starting to think batteries are black magic
18:01 Raven262 But i don't have an android device myself
18:02 IhrFussel What you remember applies to the very old batteries
18:02 * rubenwardy leaves his on charge overnight
18:02 red-001 everyone has a diffrent thing to say about how you are suppose to charge them
18:02 red-001 I guess it's because of all the diffrent types of chargers and batteries
18:02 IhrFussel But pretty much all agree on "don't leave the device charged at 100%"
18:03 Raven262 Cause it can burn, explode or worse.
18:03 tumeninodes I usually only charge mine, when someone calls my land phone to say they have been trying to callme, and I say "woops my cell is dead"
18:03 Raven262 xD
18:04 Raven262 𓆣
18:04 rubenwardy it's 2017
18:04 Raven262 DId anybody see that scarab there?
18:04 Raven262 𓆣
18:05 * Raven262 thinks he got the number right
18:05 rubenwardy it should be able to disconnect itself from the battery at 100%, and just not draw power
18:05 tumeninodes <--- misses pagers... you could throw them so much farther and not as expensive
18:05 bigfoot547 Nope, I just saw replacement char
18:05 tumeninodes I see it
18:05 Raven262 tumeninodes, which OS?
18:05 IhrFussel AFAIK the lifetime of the Li-Ion/Poly batteries increases if you don't fully charge them... I read that you can charge them only 500 times before they lose capacity if you always charge 0-100% ... if you only charge 50-100% they last 1,500 charges, if you charge them only 30% each time they last over 5,000 and so on
18:05 tumeninodes Minty :P
18:05 Raven262 Damn, seems that only mint can see it
18:06 Raven262 I recently installed peppermint and can't see it anymore
18:06 tumeninodes cuz Mint ROCKS!
18:06 Raven262 Yeah probably
18:06 tumeninodes why did you do that?
18:06 Raven262 Drivers
18:06 Raven262 Needed to recompile kernel
18:06 tumeninodes and... how's that workin out for ya?
18:06 tumeninodes :D
18:06 Raven262 nice
18:06 Raven262 games work better
18:07 tumeninodes but how much better
18:07 Raven262 and i can't see scarabs :P
18:07 Raven262 Much much better, no more funny textures in dota2 and tf2
18:07 bigfoot547 I just have old fonts
18:07 Raven262 i wonder how do i install the whatever makes me see the scarabs
18:08 tumeninodes ummm.... Mint?
18:08 tumeninodes :P
18:08 Raven262 Nah, not going back there
18:08 tumeninodes clem will be upset
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18:09 Raven262 i had my screen stop rendering for a few seconds every few seconds on mint
18:09 Raven262 got weird lags
18:09 tumeninodes uh oh... I think Ive been getting that 18.2?
18:09 tumeninodes *1
18:11 Raven262 yes thats the one i've been using
18:11 Raven262 Oo
18:14 tumeninodes hmmmm
18:15 Raven262 * - the character that when used with apt install makes your life much easier or unimaginably harder.
18:16 Raven262 dat depends on the prefix/suffix that you used with it that is
18:18 red-001 apt-get remove *
18:18 Raven262 o,5 Gb of font related packages, might solve my problem :P
18:18 Raven262 *0,5
18:18 Raven262 that won't work that easily, red
18:19 Raven262 and who is still using pat-get?
18:19 red-001 0.5 for those not in continetal europe
18:19 Raven262 *apt
18:19 tumeninodes that is one thing Mint has down well..., fontz
18:19 Raven262 xD
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18:20 tumeninodes hahaha, I'm thinking "wth is pat -get? 0_o
18:20 Raven262 xD
18:20 Raven262 its cause of my keyboard that i make all of these mistakes (yea sure)
18:20 Raven262 okay, maybe cause i'm typing too fast
18:21 tumeninodes it's a peppiment kb
18:21 tumeninodes all sticky
18:21 Krock IhrFussel, well, the optimum would be to keep them around 4.0 volts per cell but that's hardly reachable
18:21 Raven262 xD
18:22 Raven262 reboot...
18:23 tumeninodes Krock..., is there an app for that? :P
18:24 IhrFussel Battery Monitor Widget
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18:24 IhrFussel Displays battery temp, volt, current and much more
18:24 tumeninodes well now my joke isn;t funny
18:25 Raven262 𓆣
18:25 Raven262 these scarabs are just so... pixelated
18:25 Raven262 odd
18:25 Raven262 maybe i should change to some less pixelated font
18:25 tumeninodes looks fine to me
18:25 tumeninodes reminds me of space invaders
18:26 Raven262 Oh antialiasing makes it look better :D
18:26 tumeninodes there ya go
18:26 IhrFussel Also Krock many phone manufacturers increase the volt limit on purpose...Samsung phones for example peak at 4.4 volts when they reach 100%
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18:27 tumeninodes that's why they blow up
18:27 tumeninodes run hot
18:27 Krock you simply don't charge a Li-Ion cell above 4.2V
18:27 Natechip lol
18:27 Natechip BOOOMMM
18:28 Krock boom. hand lost
18:28 tumeninodes or ear
18:28 IhrFussel But the manufacturer chooses the volt limit..my current Huawei phone peaks at 4.3 volts
18:28 Natechip then court :D
18:28 tumeninodes international standards time
18:28 Raven262 𓂀
18:29 tumeninodes or worse if in your pocket O_O
18:29 tumeninodes HEY! that's a cool one Raven
18:30 * Raven262 searches trough ancient hieroglyphs
18:30 Raven262 xD
18:30 Raven262 u0131a3 is a scarab
18:30 tumeninodes Maybe I'll make a Peanuts font :P
18:30 Raven262 you can also type scarabs
18:30 Raven262 ctrl + shift + u and type 0131a3
18:31 tumeninodes 𓆣
18:31 Raven262 there :D
18:31 tumeninodes muahahahahahahaaaaaa
18:32 tumeninodes first step in my plan for world domination is completw
18:32 tumeninodes *e
18:32 Raven262 yea
18:33 Raven262 scarabs must have much to do with it xD
18:33 tumeninodes nah, just my meds wearing off... nvm
18:33 Raven262 xD
18:35 tumeninodes well, gotta go get summer camp stuff worked out for the rugrat. see yas
18:35 Raven262 see ya
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19:36 Sokomine five village mods? really that many? most afaik didn't get far. one that works nicely is societies. and of course nores mg mapgen. but that's what turned into mg_villages eventually...
19:43 Raven262 Yea, Sokomine, your villages mod really is the best :D
19:44 Raven262 Do you use worldedit schematics for houses?
19:47 Sokomine worldedit schematics are supported as well. but most houses are .mts files now. you can use those with worldedit as well - with /mtschemcreate and /mtschemplace. or with my handle_schematics mod
19:47 Sokomine the societies-mod is pretty nice. it's a very small village type but feels very comftable and fitting
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19:50 Raven262 Wb tumeninodes
19:50 Raven262 What are .mts files?
19:50 tumeninodes Howdy
19:51 Sokomine minetest schematic format. a binary format also used for decoration in mapgen
19:51 tumeninodes schematic files
19:51 Raven262 Ah
19:51 tumeninodes Hi Sokomine
19:51 Sokomine just another way of storing things efficiently
19:51 Raven262 How do i export in that format?
19:51 Sokomine hi tumeninodes :-)
19:52 Sokomine use //mtschemcreate filename    instead of   //save filename   in worldedit. or use my handle_schematics mod by placing a handle_schematics:build   chest in front of what you want to save
19:52 Raven262 Okay, thanks for the info.
19:53 tumeninodes I'm wondering if for 0.5.0 there can be a way to include updating MT from settings page
19:53 rubenwardy only for Windows
19:53 tumeninodes bummer
19:53 rubenwardy really we should automate the install builder
19:53 Raven262 I'm wondering if devs are going to add coloured lightning in 0.5, but probably not.
19:54 tumeninodes that would be nice
19:54 Raven262 Minetest will probably never have it, sadly.
19:54 tumeninodes don;t understand why though, users are still getting the old 0.4.13 build with ubuntu derives
19:55 tumeninodes I thought est31 fixed that
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19:59 tumeninodes I know the PPAs are current but why is Ubuntu still using 0.4.13 ?
20:01 red-001 how would I know
20:02 red-001 maybe their package manager moved to the bahamas or something
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20:04 tumeninodes Hi red-001
20:05 tumeninodes maybe their PM needs a kick to the bum
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21:50 tyng how do i set myself in creative mode on my server?
21:52 Sheba_S tyna, just yourself?
21:52 Sheba_S tyng *
21:52 tyng yes
21:52 Sheba_S grant yourself creative
21:53 tyng \/grantme creative -> unknown privilege: creative
21:54 Fixer !tell Wuzzy interesting mapgening here https://i.imgur.com/HnCFdEh.jpg
21:54 MinetestBot Fixer: I'll pass that on when Wuzzy is around
21:54 Fixer !tell Wuzzy2 interesting mapgening here https://i.imgur.com/HnCFdEh.jpg
21:54 MinetestBot Fixer: I'll pass that on when Wuzzy2 is around
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21:55 tyng Sheba_S: when i run "/grantme creative" it says "unknown privilege: creative"
21:56 Sheba_S no
21:56 tyng i have "creative_mode = true" in my server configuration file
21:56 Sheba_S try /grant youruserhere creative
21:57 tyng it does the same thing
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22:00 Sheba_S :/
22:01 Sheba_S tyng, what is your server's name?
22:04 tyng oh wait i just noticed the creative button in my inventory..
22:05 tyng i guess i should have played the game before trying to setup a server
22:06 Sheba_S lol, yes
22:16 swift110 hey all
22:28 kaeza wtf, now i.imgur.com also requires JS?
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22:33 Calinou for GIFVs probably?
22:33 red-001 gifvs are embedded mpg4 files right?
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22:35 Fixer wtf it requires js?
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22:36 Fixer github is down?
22:37 Fixer is back
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22:45 kaeza I have to allow cloudflare, otherwise it shows just a blank page
22:46 kaeza I thought the `i.` subdomain only served the files?
22:47 kaeza guess I'll switch to another image hoster then :(
22:50 rubenwardy using imgur as an image hoster seems weird to me, for forum stuff
22:50 rubenwardy it's an image social network
22:51 Fixer yeah
22:51 Fixer i moved to posting directly on forum
22:51 Fixer i have problems with github :/
22:51 Fixer still can't post pictures on it for some reason
22:52 kaeza cloudflare issues again?
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22:52 kaeza haven't tried posting images on GH, but the site loads fine for me
22:52 Fixer can't post for long time
22:52 Fixer says can't upload or smth
22:52 Fixer it was working before :/
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22:55 kaeza no issues with uploads here :/
22:55 kaeza but looks like GH uses AWS, not CF
22:57 kaeza had to temporarily enable some amazonaws.com subdomain for it to work, though
22:58 kaeza is it just me or is Web 3.0 or whatever just shit?
22:58 Fixer kaeza: in some ways yes, in some not
22:58 Fixer kaeza: but it is heavy shit for sure
22:59 Fixer kaeza: some sites are loading like on dialup...
22:59 Fixer dat heavy
22:59 rubenwardy is web 3.0 spdy?
22:59 rubenwardy or did you make up web 3.0
22:59 rubenwardy !g web 3.0
23:00 rubenwardy MinetestBot!
23:00 MinetestBot rubenwardy!
23:00 rubenwardy :3
23:00 kaeza <3 MinetestBot
23:00 MinetestBot <3 kaeza
23:00 kaeza probably made up. still shit
23:01 kaeza and will be shittier
23:01 kaeza http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/
23:01 rubenwardy web 3.0 is about decentralising services like search, social media and chat applications that are dependent on a single organisation to function.
23:01 rubenwardy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web#Web_3.0
23:02 rubenwardy yeah, I like minimal sites
23:02 rubenwardy which also know their purpose
23:02 rubenwardy compromise
23:02 Fixer http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/
23:03 Fixer or slackware site
23:07 rubenwardy Fixer, that site looks awful
23:07 Fixer rubenwardy: yet fast
23:07 rubenwardy still awful
23:07 Fixer gamma is not the bast
23:08 rubenwardy you can make nice looking websites which aren't slow
23:08 wilkgr Shall I provide my own examples?
23:09 Fixer go ahead
23:10 Fixer rubenwardy: but imagine how this kind of site would look under web 2.0 paradigm, I expect clusterfuck
23:11 rubenwardy web 2.0 isn't related to the design of a site
23:12 Fixer many still relate
23:13 rubenwardy it wouldn't be hard to make that site look a lot better, and be more usable
23:13 Fixer web 1.0 is dialup era, static sites, few js, java applets, flash, web 2.0 - all the craze, fat, heavy on js and other
23:13 rubenwardy nope
23:13 rubenwardy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0
23:13 rubenwardy also, implying that java and flash applets aren't far
23:13 rubenwardy *fat
23:14 rubenwardy or slow
23:16 rubenwardy the generic jumbletron bootstrap craze where you have to scroll loads to get any information is bad
23:16 rubenwardy but designing sites in a way that doesn't look shit isn't
23:21 Fixer 1 m y r i agr am
23:21 Fixer hmmm
23:22 wilkgr The slowest thing to load are the screenshots, which aren't integral to the website. http://wilkgr.altervista.org/mw/
23:23 wilkgr (I do need to fix the captions for the images though)
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23:46 rubenwardy wilkgr, pretty good, needs some more attention to margins/paddings though
23:46 rubenwardy especially the truncated sidebar
23:57 rubenwardy nice fieldset here: http://wilkgr.altervista.org/
23:57 rubenwardy background's on point too
23:58 wilkgr Hover over the sidebar, and it expands
23:58 wilkgr But yes
23:58 wilkgr It's still a WIP
23:58 rubenwardy it expands way too far, and would be fine as full expanded to start off with :)
23:59 wilkgr I do have a version of the CSS like that :)
23:59 wilkgr I just haven't uploaded it to the server yet
23:59 rubenwardy bookmarked that page, I'll check the game out at some point - it looks good
23:59 wilkgr Have you seen Ravenfield?

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