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01:01 BeBo46100 Octaican?
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01:10 tumeninodes ... and that was last anyone ever heard from poor octacian :(
01:10 AntumDeluge lol
01:10 octacian heh, I was AFK
01:10 octacian BeBo46100: OK, I'm actually here. Yes?
01:10 octacian Oh, hey tumeninodes! :D
01:11 BeBo46100 Can i host my world without my IP?
01:11 tumeninodes hey octacian
01:12 octacian BeBo46100: Not really. Although you can get a sorta-domain name for free that points to your IP without having to actually give it out
01:12 BeBo46100 where?
01:12 octacian However, anyone with linux can then just type `host <youdomain>` to get your IP still
01:13 octacian BeBo46100: noip.com is a good place to start.
01:14 BeBo46100 how do i put my world out? currently it only shows Server port
01:15 BeBo46100 then i'll go to noip.com
01:16 octacian noip.com will allow you to set up your world without having to give people your IP
01:22 tumeninodes heh, noip made me think of the movie ip man :P
01:23 tumeninodes is that strange?
01:23 tumeninodes yes it is
01:23 tumeninodes shut up I wasnt talking to you
01:25 BeBo46100 Octacian?
01:25 octacian BeBo46100: Yes?
01:25 BeBo46100 i made account now what?
01:26 octacian Make sure it's set up and you can access your server through the new noip account
01:27 BeBo46100 it gave me an ipv4 do i use that?
01:27 octacian I think so...
01:27 BeBo46100 where do i add my world?
01:28 octacian BeBo46100: You don't add your world there.
01:29 octacian NoIP is just to redirect to your server without you giving out your IP
01:30 octacian You have to first set up the minetest server software on a local machine that you keep on all the time
01:30 BeBo46100 sooo do i put the ip given as my Server Port?
01:31 octacian OK, where'd you get this IP?
01:31 BeBo46100 noip
01:31 BeBo46100 well no nvm it says ip/target
01:31 octacian Ah, I see
01:32 octacian You have to get your IP address, and put it in there
01:32 octacian Only NoIP will get to see that, no-one else (unless they type that one command in linux)
01:32 BeBo46100 in where exactly?
01:32 octacian Get your IP address by simply googling the term "What is my IP"
01:33 octacian And put that IP address given in the IP/Target area
01:33 octacian You know, if you're really worried about other people getting your IP, you might just have someone else host the server for you
01:33 BeBo46100 i want someone to but all i get is no :(
01:33 octacian I take it you just want a server for a few friends to access, correct?
01:34 BeBo46100 yes with my buildings 7 mods
01:34 BeBo46100 &*
01:34 octacian So, probably no more than 5 people on at a time?
01:34 BeBo46100 i'll allow only 6max
01:34 octacian hmmm
01:35 BeBo46100 all i want is my world public for a few friends
01:35 octacian There's several people who could host such a server, however, most would charge around $5/month
01:35 BeBo46100 pft i aint got money
01:35 octacian Then you're pretty well stuck... :P
01:35 BeBo46100 maybe you could host it :D
01:36 tumeninodes sure... for $5 per mo
01:36 BeBo46100 :/
01:36 octacian lol
01:36 octacian I could, however, considering that you wouldn't be paying it wouldn't be on one of my better servers, one that has a slightly slow connection
01:37 octacian And would be relatively limited in several ways (world size, max resources that can be used, etc...)
01:37 BeBo46100 what do you mean?
01:37 octacian By resources I mean max amount of RAM/HDD space
01:37 BeBo46100 sooo can my server be hosted by someone?
01:38 octacian You may be able to get someone to host it for free, at least temporarily, however, it most definitely wouldn't perform as well as a paid server
01:38 octacian (building stuff, breaking blocks, using inventory, etc... might be slow)
01:38 BeBo46100 can you host it :D
01:39 octacian How big is the world?
01:40 BeBo46100 i have 2 buildings
01:40 octacian You know how to make a ZIP file?
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01:41 BeBo46100 i've unzipped but not zipped
01:41 BeBo46100 i right click the file then choose compress/zip?
01:41 octacian Yes
01:41 octacian So, find the world file, right-click, and ZIP it
01:41 tumeninodes howdy wilkgr
01:41 BeBo46100 what do you want me to zip?
01:41 octacian The world folder.
01:42 BeBo46100 i can still access my world then right?
01:42 tumeninodes when you zip, it just makes a compressed copy of the original file, it's safe
01:43 BeBo46100 Whats Next?
01:43 wilkgr Hi tumeninodes :)
01:44 octacian uhhh...Make the ZIP of the world directory
01:44 octacian Or did you already?
01:44 BeBo46100 not yet but how do i find the World Directory?
01:45 octacian Lemme guess, Windows
01:45 octacian ?
01:46 BeBo46100 yup
01:46 tumeninodes afk
01:46 octacian OK, go to the directory from which to launch Minetest
01:47 octacian Rather than opening Minetest, go into the worlds folder from there
01:47 octacian Then, right click on the world you want to be on a server, and ZIP it
01:47 BeBo46100 im in worlds folder
01:47 BeBo46100 ok
01:47 BeBo46100 zip & Share?
01:48 octacian Upload to some place like onedrive
01:48 octacian And then share, followed by giving me the link
01:48 octacian Then I'll see if I can host it
01:48 BeBo46100 i have multiple zip options
01:48 octacian Again, if I do, it may not be permanent.
01:48 octacian OK?
01:48 BeBo46100 ok
01:49 BeBo46100 Poop
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01:49 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Nov-26 20:57 UTC <Jordach> meow
01:51 BeBo46100 missing or invalid file zip?
01:51 octacian Wuh..?
01:51 BeBo46100 nvm i fixed it
01:52 BeBo46100 its zipped now what?
01:54 BeBo46100 Octacian you still there?
01:54 octacian Yup
01:54 BeBo46100 what next?
01:54 octacian OK, so, upload the ZIPed file to some file hosting service
01:55 BeBo46100 ok
01:55 BeBo46100 what hosting service?
01:55 octacian In the end, what I want you to do, is "Share" the file online and give me a link
01:55 octacian Whatever you want.
01:55 octacian OneDrive, dropbox, box, mediafire, up to you
01:55 BeBo46100 idk any service's
01:55 BeBo46100 ok
01:56 BeBo46100 micrsoft onedrive?
01:58 BeBo46100 Hey I'll be right back
01:58 octacian Sure
01:58 BeBo46100 gotta go pray for dinner Brb
02:00 BeBo46100 Back
02:01 BeBo46100 sooo Upload the file to Microsoft onedrive right?
02:02 octacian Yup
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02:11 tumeninodes omg, this is turning into #BeBo46100test :P
02:13 BeBo46100 XD
02:13 BeBo46100 https://onedrive.live.com/?id=​root&amp;cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E
02:14 BeBo46100 Octacian here's the Link
02:14 octacian tumeninodes: IKR :P
02:14 octacian BeBo46100: OK, we'll see at this point.
02:15 tumeninodes octacian: it's like watching some innocent victim walking past a spider trap
02:15 octacian heh
02:15 BeBo46100 tumen XD
02:16 tumeninodes you are crazy-kind, friend..., I hope BeBo46100 is extra grateful and respectful for it
02:16 octacian BeBo46100: There's nothing there
02:16 BeBo46100 there should be because the zip was there
02:17 octacian heh, We'll still see if I actually host it. If I do, I'll limit world size and it will likely only be temporary, but we'll see
02:17 octacian BeBo46100: Nope, not there
02:17 BeBo46100 gimme sec
02:17 BeBo46100 Walk me through Please XD
02:18 octacian OK, take the ZIP file that you made, and upload it to onedrive
02:19 octacian From the onedrive website, locate the file and find a "Share" button attached to it
02:19 octacian Wait
02:19 octacian Locate the file, and click the check in the upper right corner
02:19 octacian Near the top left of the page, click "Share"
02:19 octacian Copy the provided URL and paste here
02:20 tumeninodes I'm headin' out. see ya the morrow octacian... (you'll prob still be here :D )
02:20 octacian 'K, cya! :D
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02:21 BeBo46100 https://onedrive.live.com/?id=DA35E0FB9​89B1B1E%21104&amp;cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E
02:21 BeBo46100 Check now
02:22 octacian Nope, doesn't exist :P
02:22 BeBo46100 want my login info?
02:23 BeBo46100 https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah4bm5j74DXaakOVzRYwQPa18Es
02:24 octacian heh, I suppose that's an option
02:24 BeBo46100 tif its still not there then onedrive Ate it XD
02:24 octacian Although..it'd have been better had you sent it via PM :P
02:24 octacian Found it
02:24 BeBo46100 finally XD
02:24 octacian OK, good that worked fine
02:24 octacian Now, what mods did you want?
02:24 BeBo46100 now what XD
02:25 BeBo46100 uhhh
02:25 BeBo46100 are my mods not there?
02:25 octacian No, you have to list the mods separately
02:25 octacian Or, wait
02:25 octacian ZIP the `mods` folder inside the Minetest directory and upload that to OneDrive as well
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02:27 BeBo46100 zipping Rn
02:27 wilkgr Wouldn't it have been easier to use the share button?
02:27 wilkgr It always works for me :/
02:27 octacian Probably lol
02:27 wilkgr (share folder)
02:27 octacian I'm not too familiar with Windows ATM
02:33 BeBo46100 https://onedrive.live.com/?id=​root&amp;cid=DA35E0FB989B1B1E
02:33 BeBo46100 here
02:35 octacian OK, checking
02:36 octacian BeBo46100: Use the login info method, above link isn't working
02:37 BeBo46100 PWD AllforHim8 Email BeBo47100@gmail.com
02:38 octacian OK..rly should've sent that in PM
02:38 octacian Change your password in a minute :rofl:
02:38 BeBo46100 its fine i dont use onedrive
02:38 octacian I see
02:38 kaeza ...
02:38 octacian Still though...
02:38 octacian lol
02:38 BeBo46100 i know its not wise to put info public
02:39 BeBo46100 but i dont use onedrive
02:39 BeBo46100 plus i cant find your name in irc lsit
02:39 BeBo46100 List*
02:39 octacian And by login info method, I meant link related to this one: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah4bm5j74DXaakOVzRYwQPa18Es
02:39 octacian heh, Oh well
02:40 BeBo46100 still works tho XD
02:43 BeBo46100 Octacian Did It Work?
02:43 octacian Yup
02:43 octacian You have HUDPlus and HUDLib? O_o
02:44 octacian heh, so more than just 1 person other than me uses it
02:44 BeBo46100 nope XD
02:45 octacian You do have it, or you don't?
02:45 octacian Like, just in general
02:45 BeBo46100 i dont think i have it no
02:46 octacian OK, so biome lib, church, cme, ethereal, evenmoreblocks, homedecor, hud hunger, mesecons, unifieddyes, weather, moreblocks, moretrees, plantlife, quartz, unified inventory, and xdecor?
02:46 BeBo46100 yup
02:46 octacian hmm, it showed up as if you did at one point anyways
02:46 octacian 'K
02:46 BeBo46100 you can join my world too :D
02:53 octacian BeBo46100: You want creative?
02:53 BeBo46100 let me know when you've made it public
02:53 BeBo46100 yes
02:54 BeBo46100 no survival
02:54 BeBo46100 otherwise my beloved hosue is gone XD
02:54 BeBo46100 House*
02:54 BeBo46100 just creative & The Mods
02:55 octacian OK, I don't think I'll set the server to announce
02:55 octacian Otherwise you might get too many people joining so that you couldn't join yourself
02:56 octacian Or do you want the server to show in the serverlist?
02:56 BeBo46100 make it just you me & Few People
02:56 octacian You can always type the IP and port manually - it prevents people from finding it that you don't want to
02:56 octacian Sounds good
02:57 BeBo46100 you me Lone_wolf & ElMehdiben
02:57 octacian heh, IK both of those people
02:58 octacian You want me to add spawnpoint mod?
02:58 BeBo46100 you know?
02:58 octacian It's pretty useful
02:58 BeBo46100 for second i thought you said you didnt know them XD
02:58 BeBo46100 i was like :/
02:58 octacian OK, two more things to do
02:58 BeBo46100 :D
02:59 octacian What username will you play under?
02:59 BeBo46100 My Name in game?
02:59 octacian Yes
02:59 BeBo46100 Star_light85 Cuase its my Youtube Name
03:00 BeBo46100 Cause*
03:01 octacian BeBo46100: Just sent you a PM, check it
03:02 BeBo46100 i'll test it right now
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05:02 redblade7 hi VanessaE , you there?
05:02 VanessaE hi
05:02 redblade7 hey listen
05:03 redblade7 on one of my servers (creative gardens), i am using older versions of your mods dependent on pre-param2 versions of unifieddyes
05:03 redblade7 namely because i dont want to cause chaos on a server over a year old with coloredwood
05:03 redblade7 it wasn't an issue on my other two servers because they were only a few months old
05:03 redblade7 but anyway
05:03 VanessaE there are LBMs in place to convert the old format to the new format.
05:04 redblade7 i am using the older homedecor_modpack
05:04 redblade7 pre-param2
05:04 redblade7 so you can use pre-param2 dyes which dont crash beds
05:04 redblade7 but
05:04 VanessaE no.
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05:05 redblade7 upgrading to 0.4.16 still gave me the plasma blocks problem
05:05 VanessaE that's a minetest_game bug.
05:05 VanessaE the plasma blocks have been fixed.
05:05 redblade7 right
05:05 redblade7 you told me
05:05 redblade7 but i'm using the older homedecor so as not to be affected by that
05:05 redblade7 but
05:05 GreenDimond I don't suppose Napiophelios is on right now...
05:05 redblade7 is there any way to have the plasma blocks problem without breaking things/
05:06 redblade7 https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpac​k/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab
05:06 redblade7 like if i was to make those changes
05:06 VanessaE redblade7: try cherry-picking that commit and apply it to your 0.4.15 homedecor.
05:06 redblade7 and create that obj file
05:06 VanessaE but no guarantees if it'll work
05:06 redblade7 ok
05:06 VanessaE just `git checkout 0.4.15; git cherry-pick <that commit id>`  and see if it works.
05:07 GreenDimond it appears someone is going around reporting posts that dont need to be reported, and I blame Napiophelios. But I have no way of knowing >:/
05:07 redblade7 you mean this? https://github.com/minetest-mods/ho​medecor_modpack/releases/tag/0.4.15
05:07 GreenDimond I guess he claims they are "off-topic" but the ones getting deleted arent TOO off-topic and the owners of the thread are fine with the posts and such.
05:08 redblade7 i dont think i'm using something that recent
05:08 VanessaE yes, redblade7.
05:09 redblade7 does that require a param2 unifieddyes?
05:09 redblade7 because what of your mods i have on that server, i havent updated unifieddyes or any of your mods dependent on it
05:09 redblade7 i guess i can try
05:10 redblade7 i just dont want to have a situation where i can't downgrade, like i did with coloredwood on my digital farms server
05:10 redblade7 fortunately i backed up my server today so i can try using that
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05:18 redblade7 sometime i have to learn how to make minetest mods so i can fork it. every time i update homedecor i re-edit bathroom_sanitation and kitchen_furniture to allow the ancient behavior of dispensing water regardless of what's under it
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05:23 redblade7 first let me see how the 0.4.15 branch works on my server
05:23 redblade7 then i will try playing with it
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05:35 redblade7 ok i'll do the cherry-pick
05:35 redblade7 never heard of it
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05:36 redblade7 wait...git checkout 0.4.15
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05:36 redblade7 i did the tarball
05:37 redblade7 no
05:37 redblade7 i dont have a .git folder in homedecor_modpack
05:37 redblade7 i'll have to do this myself
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05:41 redblade7 homedecor_generic_plastic.png used to be homedecor_generic_plastic_black.png
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05:42 redblade7 wtf
05:42 redblade7 hexchat randomly closed
05:43 redblade7 windows sucks
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05:44 redblade7 homedecor-0.4.15 under 0.4.16 has a correctly colored plasma ball base. i'm wondering if i should just leave that alone.
05:46 VanessaE leave it alone.
05:46 VanessaE that was a bug introduced with hardware coloring that I later fixed.
05:55 redblade7 ok let's see
06:07 redblade7 looks great!
06:07 redblade7 i only made this change: https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_mod​pack/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bb​fd0aab#diff-adc917287248f285b31c65166224547b
06:08 redblade7 sorry
06:08 redblade7 https://github.com/minetest-mods/homedecor_modpac​k/commit/bd70955a9b0cc082400db11d1431bce6bbfd0aab
06:08 redblade7 you should do that to the 0.4.15 branch
06:08 VanessaE no, the 0.4.15 tag is fixed in place
06:08 redblade7 oh
06:09 VanessaE and I don't support old versions anyway
06:10 redblade7 well i still got stuff to do tonight so thank you
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08:17 sigz I played a bit with the intllib mod, works very well for translations, I made some new integration in some mods, I was wondering if dev would accept intllib integration in mods from minetest_game base (because in my opinion, these mods must be translated)
08:27 Hijiri sigz: I would guess probably not, but you can ask in #minetest-dev
08:27 Hijiri or even open a PR if you already have the code anyway
08:27 Hijiri if not you could open an issue
08:35 sigz hmm
08:35 sigz ok
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09:27 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest: Fix arm inertia limit case 48cd217 https://git.io/vQZBo (2017-06-27T09:26:37Z)
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09:57 MinetestBot [git] adrido -> minetest/minetest: Fix msvc annoyances (#5963) d7343b6 https://git.io/vQZzH (2017-06-27T09:54:40Z)
10:00 IhrFussel does the "not" condition in Lua fire in both cases? (false/nil)
10:01 IhrFussel Oops wrong channel
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10:34 MinetestBot [git] nybble41 -> minetest/minetest: Fix for empty key/value when reading item string with wear but no met… 85d7b18 https://git.io/vQZwW (2017-06-27T10:34:11Z)
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11:12 Thekiller916 hi everyone
11:12 red-001 hi
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11:33 red-001 hi ThomasMonroe
11:33 ThomasMonroe hi red
11:41 Nox[Matrix] H E Y  E V E R Y  O N E
11:41 ThomasMonroe hi Nox
11:43 Nox[Matrix] Geets
11:44 Nox[Matrix] using ipfs for minetest could be cool
11:44 * red-001 reloads Nox
11:45 * Nox[Matrix] Drops due the reloading process
11:45 Nox[Matrix] x-x
11:46 Nox[Matrix] (Please wait.... 3%)
11:46 red-001 at least I didn't revolve you
11:46 Calinou Nox[Matrix]: that isn't exactly realtime-friendly
11:46 Nox[Matrix] (Please wait.... 7%)
11:46 Nox[Matrix] (Please wait.... 20%)
11:47 Nox[Matrix] (Please wait.... 35%)
11:47 Nox[Matrix] (Please wait.... 60%)
11:47 red-001 crtl^c
11:48 Nox[Matrix] (Terminating.....)
11:48 * red-001 is glad it's not vim
11:48 * Nox[Matrix] returns 0
11:49 red-001 ./skynet
11:49 Nox[Matrix] No such file or directory
11:51 red-001 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd
11:51 PureTryOut[m] What the hell are you guys doing lol
11:51 Nox[Matrix] flash_eraseall: command not found
11:53 * Nox[Matrix] sent a long message: Nox[Matrix]_2017-06-27_11:53:39.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/down​load/matrix.org/uSIfndOYKbwHYxofDydiuvAO>
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11:57 Nox[Matrix] logging out red-001
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12:00 red-001 hey
12:00 red-001 someone got k-line
12:02 red-001 /ignore *!*@*.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
12:02 * Calinou shrugs
12:03 red-001 huh I had no idea calcul0n was an op here
12:03 ruskie those are best ops - ones you don't know exist
12:06 lumidify Posting what I accidentally posted on #minetest-hub:
12:06 lumidify Hmm, about my message yesterday about MT always aborting on OpenBSD - in GDB it mentions something with "No such file or directory", so I'm wondering if it's somehow related to this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/965
12:06 lumidify My problem seems to be related to that issue, but that issue was fixed, so I'm not sure what's wrong...
12:07 lumidify GDB only gives me this: https://pastebin.com/fAaBfn0v
12:07 Fuchs yes, oddly enough spam tends to lead to k-lines :p
12:08 red-001 bt
12:08 red-001 surely there is some sort of backtrace
12:09 lumidify Nope, it just crashes right away and even with debugging symbols only gives me that tiny thing :(
12:10 lumidify 0.4.15 works fine, but 0.4.16 and 0.4.16-dev both have this weird problem
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12:29 lumidify I recompiled but there's still only that little message (other than the usual stuff): https://pastebin.com/6B4pFRj9
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12:35 red-001 why havn't you run bt or bt full?
12:36 * lumidify has no idea about gdb :P
12:36 lumidify Sorry
12:36 * lumidify shall do that
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12:43 lumidify This is with bt: https://pastebin.com/Wy3eB6tn
12:43 lumidify Something with threading... no idea what though
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12:48 sfan5 spam-highlighting the whole nick list including freenode staff has to be another level of dumb
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12:51 Out`Of`Control KKK group
12:51 Out`Of`Control wtf
12:51 lumidify \whois Out`Of`Control
12:51 lumidify Whoops, just checking random people, sorry :P
12:51 Out`Of`Control lumidify:  next time use status tab
12:52 lumidify checking meaning I'm just curious about everyone
12:54 lumidify Doing /whois is something I do when I'm bored :(
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13:37 lumidify Oh well, I guess for now I'll just keep around a linux laptop for MT as long as the new versions don't work on OpenBSD.
13:44 IhrFussel Guys is math.random() in Lua not a good way to generate random numbers? I have an event on my server and it seems to fire a lot at 30% chance...is that just bad luck?
13:46 * ndjdjksisksk just tried to join a server on FreeBSD and got an error involving mutex.cpp
13:46 ndjdjksisksk https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6065
13:48 red-001 lumidify, the issue happens when you try to start a singleplayer game right?
13:48 red-001 not when starting the main menu
13:51 sfan5 lumidify: my guess is that there is some openbsd specific bug/race condition in the threading code
13:57 red-001 I think this is an example of why the size of posts should be limited https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopi​c.php?f=47&amp;t=17978&amp;p=280066
13:59 sfan5 red-001: no, that's a prime example of why shitposters should be banne
13:59 sfan5 d
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14:14 lumidify red-001: sorry, I was afk - if I compile without -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug, it aborts immediately, if I compile it with that, it aborts as soon as I try to start a game or join a server.
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14:39 lumidify sfan5: were any major changes done to threading between 0.4.15 and 0.4.16 though? 0.4.15 works for me on OpenBSD if I compile it (the version in the repositories is still 0.4.14).
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14:42 sfan5 pthread wrappers were removed
14:42 sfan5 now only C++11 threads are used
14:42 sfan5 or was that after 0.4.16?
14:42 sfan5 wait nvm that was afterwards
14:42 sfan5 no idea
14:43 lumidify Yeah, I think I'll just keep around another OS for Minetest :)
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15:44 IhrFussel How do I have to understand this parameter in the ore definition "clust_scarcity = 17*17*17," ?
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16:24 cx384 IhrFussel, I think clust_scarcity tells you how large is the distance between ores. clust_scarcity = 17*17*17 means that one ore is generated every 4913 nodes. https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4387
16:26 IhrFussel cx384, what? That can't be I just found several of the same ore inside the exact same cave ... or you mean every 4913th ore will be that one?
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16:26 ThomasMonroe you also have to look at how many ores are in the cluster
16:27 IhrFussel ThomasMonroe, I found multiple spots with the same ore..they weren't in the same cluster AFAIK
16:27 cx384 It will be that one?
16:28 IhrFussel "that one" = the ore I register
16:28 ThomasMonroe hmm
16:28 cx384 then yes
16:29 IhrFussel A player actually found more of the 17*17*17 ores in the cave than 11*11*11 ores...so is that just bad luck?
16:30 ThomasMonroe ok i think ik what happened
16:31 ThomasMonroe 17x17x17 is the box in which the cluster sits
16:31 cx384 do you consider clust_num_ores ?
16:31 ThomasMonroe a smaller box means the closer the clusters
16:31 cx384 yes
16:32 ThomasMonroe also the clusters dont sit directly in the middle of the box, they can be anywhere in the box
16:32 ThomasMonroe so it wont be always 17*2 nodes away
16:32 ThomasMonroe to the next cluster
16:34 IhrFussel But the player found ~ 50 17*17*17 ores and only ~ 20 11*11*11 ... that doesn't seem right
16:35 IhrFussel clust_num_ores = 3, clust_size = 3,
16:35 ThomasMonroe in a cave though, the cave may have intersected more of the 17x17x17 clusters than the 11x11x11
16:36 cx384 The minetest api tells us "This value should be *MUCH* higher than your intuition might tell you!".
16:39 IhrFussel That's very helpful..not
16:40 IhrFussel I checked other ore definitions...mithril has 11*11*11 so I thought 17*17*17 should mean "barely generated" but guess I was wrong...I increased it to 19*19*19 now
16:43 cx384 for mese blocks it is 36 * 36 * 36
16:44 ThomasMonroe for my exotic ores mod i have many of my ores generating at higher than 20x20x20
16:51 red-001 !seen DabbetulArz
16:51 MinetestBot red-001: Sorry, I haven't seen dabbetularz around.
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16:52 ShadowBot red-001: I haven't seen DabbetulArz in #minetest.
16:54 ThomasMonroe how do you create a pull request for MTG?
16:56 red-001 you need to fork the repo first
16:57 ThomasMonroe ahh ok, i'll try that
16:57 red-001 https://github.com/minetest/min​etest_game#fork-destination-box
16:58 ThomasMonroe i had the crazy stupid idea of adding more ores, but it changed into new uses for tin
16:59 ThomasMonroe other than just making bronze and tools that werent valuable
16:59 red-001 fork the repo
17:00 red-001 create a branch in your copy
17:00 red-001 and make your changes
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17:01 red-001 http://dev.minetest.net/Git
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17:03 DS-minetest click on the fork button, clone the minetest repo (not your fork) to your games folder, rename the new folder, open there the terminal again, $git checkout -b <branchname>, add commits, $git push <forkaddress> <branchname>. that would be my way
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17:07 ThomasMonroe thanks red-001 i made my pull request
17:07 VanessaE DS-minetest: actually, he should clone his fork, not the minetest repo.
17:08 ThomasMonroe right VE
17:08 ThomasMonroe thats what i did, er figured out to do
17:08 VanessaE otherwise default would be to try (and fail) to push to upstream
17:08 ThomasMonroe because i dont have write acess
17:08 ThomasMonroe correct?
17:08 VanessaE yep
17:09 DS-minetest my way isn't the best one but it works for me
17:10 ThomasMonroe np Ds
17:11 ThomasMonroe i gtg eat brb in a couple of hours
17:13 red-001 test
17:14 DS-minetest another test
17:14 Raven262 And one test more.
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17:19 antims Any tips on finding lava in a v7-mapgen MTG map? (Without clip or creative mode or anything.)
17:19 antims Lava used to be just everywhere in some of the earlier mapgens. (Like, somewhere between a third and half of underground caverns had lava.) Now, it seems pretty difficult to find.
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17:20 antims (I'm guessing it's not uncommon to "get lucky" and see lava everywhere when you're not looking for it, but that's not been the case for me.)
17:22 antims I've done a good amount of digging down to roughly -1300, and explored a couple-dozen caverns well below the -273 (nice reference, by the way) threshold.
17:25 Krock uhm.. dig straight down?
17:25 Krock the lava lakes will occur more often in the depths
17:26 antims Ah. 'k. So it's not just that they don't occurr above -273 and below -273 they're "common" (whatever that means). They do get more common as you dig down well below -273?
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17:27 Krock well sure, there's a limit for the generation near the surface
17:27 Krock but I'm not sure how deep this limit is
17:27 antims Ok. I guess I'll keep going down, then. That helps. Thanks. :)
17:27 Krock !next
17:27 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
17:27 antims Oh. According to the wiki, it's -273 (-32 for the v6 mapgen, -273 for all others.)
17:28 antims http://wiki.minetest.net/Lava
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18:19 rdococ Minæ Testæ!
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19:37 jcalve sometimes I find some of my crops are gone, do they die after a while or do farm animal mobs eat them?
19:43 calcul0n jcalve, some mobs eat them yes
19:43 jcalve ok thanks -_-
19:44 calcul0n small pesky bugs :)
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20:00 KaadmY Any idea why this is happening now? https://pastebin.com/y9BJ4JH0
20:01 KaadmY I don't remember than happening in 0.4.15, and the error is calling `next` (which I assume is a Lua call for iterating tables), which I don't use anywhere
20:02 KaadmY Hm
20:03 KaadmY Also the data from get_list and the data passed to set_list are the same (except one containing an ItemStack and the other is an item table)
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20:34 swift110 hey all
20:35 ThomasMonroe hey
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21:09 ThomasMonroe well i gtg play for the afternoon cya tonight
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21:47 red-001 ~seen tumeninodes
21:47 ShadowBot red-001: I saw tumeninodes in #minetest 19 hours, 27 minutes, and 10 seconds ago saying "I'm headin' out. see ya the morrow octacian... (you'll prob still be here :D )"
22:06 swift110 ok
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22:09 tumeninodes red-001: you rang?
22:10 red-001 not really
22:11 tumeninodes okie dokie
22:11 red-001 I was just checking did I not notice you or where you just not on today
22:11 tumeninodes I think I only logged in once today for a few but got called away, then logged off
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22:27 tumeninodes bigfoot: howwwdy ho
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22:28 Ruslan1 Hello hello
22:28 tumeninodes Hi
22:29 Ruslan1 Do you have server
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22:29 Nox[Matrix] Ruslan1: I have boneless pizza
22:30 tumeninodes Me? no I'm not into sadomasochism
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22:30 tumeninodes boneless pizza?
22:31 Ruslan1 Some server is not working for me
22:31 AntumDeluge I've noticed that the mod 'pipeworks' has a boolean setting 'liquid_finite'. This setting doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. Does anyone know if this setting is related to Minetest itself, or is it specific to 'pipeworks'? Perhaps this is a deprecated setting?
22:34 Ruslan1 Ok
22:34 tumeninodes sorry Ruslan1. you're looking for help with a server?
22:34 Ruslan1 Why pizza server is not working for me
22:35 tumeninodes no idea
22:36 tumeninodes could be a number of reasons. Best to try to contact the server admin
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22:37 Ruslan1 How
22:39 Ruslan1 tumeninodes how
22:39 tumeninodes I have no idea who runs that server
22:40 Ruslan1 Can you try
22:40 tumeninodes try what?
22:40 Ruslan1 Pizza server
22:42 Ruslan1 It working
22:42 tumeninodes you're all set now then?
22:42 Ruslan1 Did you fix it
22:43 tumeninodes dude, I can't fix it, I don;t own nor run it
22:43 tumeninodes sometimes you just need to wait a bit then try again... it's magic
22:44 Ruslan1 I'll try it works for me
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22:48 tumeninodes AntumDeluge: I think that is deprecated. Not positive though
22:48 Ruslan1 Pizza server is not working for me
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22:50 AntumDeluge Thank you for the response tumeninodes. I noticed that of all the mods I have installed, only 'pipeworks' uses it.
22:50 Ruslan1 Hey hello
22:51 tumeninodes it does not impact it loading though correct?
22:51 Ruslan1 hello hello
22:52 AntumDeluge Nope. Works fine.
22:53 tumeninodes Ruslan1: I wish I could help you but, I am not an expert with servers. I will repeat though, this could be for numerous reasons.
22:53 AntumDeluge The reason I ask is because I'm trying to put all available mod settings for my server into a 'settingtypes.txt' file. Just couldn't find any information on 'liquid_finite'.
22:54 Ruslan1 AntumDeluge can I join your server
22:54 tumeninodes AntumDeluge: oh, ok... well looks like you can just skip liquid_finite then :P
22:54 AntumDeluge Sorry Ruslan1, it's not public. I just run it for my kids.
22:55 Ruslan1 Ok
22:55 tumeninodes I "think" liquid finite was prior to the current water code / settings
22:56 tumeninodes Ruslan1: have you tried to log into any other servers? Or do you only use Pizza server?
22:57 tumeninodes try another. maybe pizza server is at it's max for players, or down for some service, or who knows
22:57 AntumDeluge Ah, okay. So new water code has taken care of what 'liquid_finite' was meant to accomplish. From what I could find, it looks like it was by mods to prevent griefing.
22:57 Ruslan1 It not working for me
22:58 AntumDeluge Ruslan1, are you talking about the server called "FREE PIZZA SERVER"? I just tried it & it works for me.
22:58 tumeninodes so you could either simply leave the code in pipeworks as is, or strip it out, or comment it out. I would just leave it
22:59 AntumDeluge I'll leave it for now as it would might affect 'pipeworks'. But I will notify that the dev that it is probably not needed anymore.
23:00 Ruslan1 FREE PIZZA SERVER is not working for android
23:00 tumeninodes ok : )
23:00 AntumDeluge Oh, Ruslan1, what happens when you try to connect on Android?
23:01 Ruslan1 It was errors
23:01 AntumDeluge Does the client act like it is connecting, then crashes?
23:01 Ruslan1 Yeah
23:02 tumeninodes afk
23:03 AntumDeluge Do you know how much RAM your Android device has? The Minetest client has some issues with RAM, I would expect even more so with heavy server that might require more.
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23:05 AntumDeluge Ruslan1, did you see my message?
23:05 AntumDeluge "Do you know how much RAM your Android device has? The Minetest client has some issues with RAM, I would expect even more so with heavy server that might require more."
23:05 Ruslan1 Where
23:06 AntumDeluge The Minetest client for Android has some issues with RAM.
23:06 AntumDeluge It can be especially hard to connect to servers if your Android device has then 2GB of RAM.
23:06 Ruslan1 How to find it
23:07 AntumDeluge It looks like the pizza server may be especially heavy, so maybe even a device with 2GB might have trouble connecting.
23:07 AntumDeluge Hang on, I'll try to remember how to find the RAM. What device are you using?
23:07 Ruslan1 Hold on I need find settings
23:08 AntumDeluge Ya, in settings menu, go to 'Memory'. It should tell you 'Total memory'.
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23:10 AntumDeluge Should look something like this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/i0e​ZUt1HMTY/maxresdefault.jpg
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23:18 kaeza !server pizza
23:18 MinetestBot kaeza: FREE PIZZA SERVER!! | 24.208.202.9 | Clients: 5/32, 3/5 | Version: 0.4.15 / minetest | Ping: 121ms
23:18 kaeza it seems to be up
23:18 kaeza :P
23:18 kaeza <3 MinetestBot
23:18 MinetestBot <3 kaeza
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