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08:30 hisforever Hi I can't seen to get my switch to match the track. is there a youtube video on it?
08:35 Krock music track? please provide context
08:39 hisforever http://imgur.com/a/59VnX  how do I get this to connect?
08:46 hisforever I git it to connect
08:47 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Chat protocol rewrite (#5117) 7ddf67a https://git.io/vQFqQ (2017-07-16T08:47:31Z)
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10:35 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: F5 debug display: Reformat and remove some information (#6125) d4cc49e https://git.io/vQFsU (2017-07-16T10:33:09Z)
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11:10 MinetestBot [git] cx384 -> minetest/minetest: Add information about the button height a54715b https://git.io/vQFGa (2017-07-16T11:09:27Z)
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11:12 MinetestBot [git] cx384 -> minetest/minetest: Add information about the button height d60434c https://git.io/vQFGK (2017-07-16T11:10:34Z)
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12:32 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Expose the formspec getter functions (#1783) e518976 https://git.io/vQFc6 (2017-07-16T12:31:34Z)
12:32 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Crafting: Remove duplicate reversed recipes (#1777) 1d5bc15 https://git.io/vQFci (2017-07-16T12:31:21Z)
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15:10 Kyll Anyone has some information about set_attach, when used on a player? The player character seems to glitch into the ground (-1 on Y) whenever I set_attach it to an entity at the same position.
15:11 Kyll There isn't much data about this in the wiki or the reference, and nothing I can find in R. Wardy's book
15:12 Krock perhaps you've set the bone position wrongly
15:14 Kyll I didn't actually set any bone... I went for "". Not sure how a bone is set, or even how it is properly defined
15:15 Krock what happens if you press F7? is the player on the wrong place or just the eye position?
15:16 Kyll That's what's weird (to me): Eye/camera position seems fine, but player model goes into the ground (using F7)
15:16 Krock you could try to set the relative Y position to "6", how it's done in the carts mod
15:17 Kyll 6? Okay, I tried 1 or 1.5 previously (to account for the player height somehow) and it didn't work well as the camera went up too. Let me check.
15:19 Krock either the position or the attachment zero offset is not as how it should be
15:21 Kyll Mh, 6 isn't enough. 10 did the trick perfectly, without any effect on the camera. Perfect, thanks a lot =D
15:22 Kyll My grappling hook is in a sort of working state now.
15:23 Krock an entire BS up? that's strange. the zero point should be the players feet
15:23 Kyll BS? Block Size?
15:24 Kyll I add_entity at the player position, then attach the player to the entity with a 10 offset on Y
15:24 Krock yes, 10.0 or "bullshit", in other channels
15:24 Kyll Nice.
15:25 Krock hint: there's the table default.player_attached which can be used to check whether the player is already attached to something
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15:25 Krock i.e. set default.player_attached[player_name]  to true when attaching that player - to help other mods
15:26 Kyll Is default a global namespace then? Will do
15:26 Kyll Also a check to add to my on_use then
15:28 Krock it's a table from the "default" mod, which is included is almost all subgames, like minetest_game, which is the subgame you most likely use right now
15:28 Kyll Indeed
15:29 Kyll Thanks for the hint, checks and setter added
15:29 Krock !next
15:29 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
15:30 Kyll =D
15:30 Kyll Now to work on the whole thing getting one flying and tunnelling. More checks...
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15:34 Kyll Oh, by the way, is there any way to pass parameters to a new entity apart from stringifying them? It's a bit weird to populate custom fields from a passed string
15:38 swift110 hey all
15:39 Kyll Plop
15:56 Krock I'm afraid you'll have to serialize and deserialize everything
16:07 swift110 hey Krock long time no see
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17:56 kuldeep anyone know if i continue digging inside, what will happen?   (will i loop at some location reaching at end  OR will i be not able to dig anymore reaching at end OR something else that i cannot imagine?)
18:06 Krock kuldeep, are you asking how the end of the world (very deep down) looks like?
18:07 kuldeep Krock, yes.
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18:08 kuldeep Krock, i could see lava and MESE blocks.
18:08 kuldeep after that the admin said that it is taking too much disk space.
18:08 Krock after drowning like 50 times in a lava lake, you'll finally reach the bottom of the world (around -31000m)
18:09 kuldeep ok, then?
18:09 Krock well, then you're 4 weeks older and depressed because there's just a solid, invisible wall with the sky color
18:10 kuldeep Krock, ah ;)
18:10 Krock check it out in singleplayer by teleporting there. it's nothing special
18:10 kuldeep Krock, "you're 4 weeks older" :p
18:10 kuldeep Krock, though digging has its own fun :)
18:10 Krock with the mods I know you don't need to dig much deeper than -1024
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18:11 SG90987 sup
18:11 Krock because that's the level where you start to find MESE blocks
18:11 Krock hi SG90987
18:11 kuldeep what are MESE block? anything special in them.
18:11 kuldeep first time i found them, i was excited that i found them first time :)
18:12 SG90987 i was in craig's server a few hours ago and was disappointed to find out that the WTC hasn't been finished yet
18:12 Krock well, they're entire MESE blocks, which gives you 9 mese ores when crafting
18:12 SG90987 it sucks seeing it stand there unfinished
18:12 kuldeep are there any other blocks type too when i go deeper?
18:12 kuldeep Krock, "gives you 9 mese ores" ?
18:13 kuldeep Krock, im curious about the world :)
18:13 calcul0n craft 1 mese block and you get 9 crystals
18:13 Krock kuldeep, not with vanilla minetest. install more mods if you want more ores. however, I don't know of any ore (besides bedrock) that would generate more often (or generate at all) after -1024
18:13 calcul0n you can do it the other way too, it's a way to take less space in your chests
18:13 Krock and you can decorate your house
18:13 Krock to look like you're rich
18:14 calcul0n and i don't think you find other types of blocks
18:14 calcul0n but you can craft them the way, with all types of ore
18:14 calcul0n *the same way
18:15 kuldeep this is my 2nd day. im not familiar with the concepts that the game has.
18:16 kuldeep all i know is selecting block and building some primitive stuffs
18:16 Krock you're on the best way when asking questions here ;)
18:17 kuldeep calcul0n, "craft 1 mese block and you get 9 crystals" what do you mean by that?
18:18 Krock take 9 crystals, fill the crafting grid, take 1 mese block
18:18 calcul0n yep, and put 1 block in the craft grid, you'll get 9 crystals
18:18 Krock if there are only 4 crafting slots, then uninstall that ugly minecraft-alike mod or ask the server admin to do it. 3x3 is the best.
18:18 kuldeep i can place as many as MESE block i want. i think the game allow me unlimited. this feature depends on the server right?
18:19 Krock ah, then disable creative mode
18:19 Krock no crafting required in this case
18:19 kuldeep what is creative mode? :)
18:19 calcul0n and no need to spend time in the mine :)
18:19 Krock place as many as MESE block i want ^
18:19 Krock it allows you unlimited access to all items
18:20 kuldeep oh
18:21 kuldeep oh now im getting? MESE block are rare. and either get them by digging OR put some some ore mixture and get a MESE block. right?
18:22 Krock yes
18:22 Krock or cheat them somehow
18:22 kuldeep heheheh O:)
18:22 Krock like abusing one of the rare item duplication bugs
18:24 kuldeep ok
18:24 kuldeep Thank you Krock calcul0n :D
18:24 Krock !next
18:24 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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18:36 kuldeep banned on Red Cat Creative server asking all these questions. :(
18:36 Krock * #minetest :You're not a channel operator
18:36 Krock aww man
18:39 kuldeep any channel of the Red Cat Creative where i can go and request?
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18:41 kuldeep "Access Denied: Reason: Banned: Expires: the end of time, Reason: So Sorry just can't"
18:44 Krock I believe that one is on inchra.net
18:44 kuldeep I was building a hideout on a beach, i guess a few block under the water :)
18:44 Krock * https://www.inchra.chat/
18:44 * kuldeep was amazed by the level of detail that were kept in the game
18:44 kuldeep water will flow in if get a path.
18:45 kuldeep soft soil collapse etc...
18:47 kuldeep Thanks Krock
18:48 Krock otherwise there are many other great servers around
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21:43 Kyll_ Well, my grappling hook is now somewhat working. Still need to test it in MP but it will do for now. Let's add a texture! Thanks Krock for the hints and help =D
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22:17 Kyll_ How come one is supposed to pass node names to the textures table whenever using register_entity?
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22:27 ernest anyone gonna be watching GoT?
22:27 ernest dont spoil it
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23:20 proller devs!  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=14&t=7864&start=200#p283862
23:25 Noxarivis[m] devs!
23:30 Noxarivis[m] proller: isn't freeminer open source? Since when do the devs need your aggrement?
23:30 Noxarivis[m] Serious question
23:33 proller since license change
23:33 Noxarivis[m] proller: crossposted in minetest-dev
23:33 Noxarivis[m] Thanks
23:34 proller thank you, i cant write to -dev
23:34 Noxarivis[m] proller: I always thought that you guys should work together
23:34 Noxarivis[m] proller: why can't you write to Dev?
23:34 Noxarivis[m] U b&?
23:34 proller #minetest-dev :Cannot send to channel
23:35 Noxarivis[m] U are b& I guess
23:36 Noxarivis[m] I'm not on IRC so I'm not 100 % sure if I can

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