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01:47 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Create_schematic documentation: Update for per-node force-place 0c99da4 https://git.io/v7OC5 (2017-07-26T01:41:41Z)
01:47 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgv7: Add 'mount_zero_level' parameter f61928d https://git.io/v7OCd (2017-07-26T01:41:30Z)
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03:45 hisforever Hi I tookall mods out of .minetest mod folder, Than opened Minetest made new world. Tnen I cleared the debug.tex. started the new world then I got these errors http://imgur.com/a/zZnDQ Why?
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05:37 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: VoxelManip cleanups (const ref, const move) + function removal (#6169) 9a17b65 https://git.io/v7Oac (2017-07-26T05:35:09Z)
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10:01 wilkgr 2017-07-26 08:40:42: INFO[Main]: Server destructing
10:01 wilkgr I'm curious what that means
10:04 sfan5 it means the server is shutting down
10:04 sfan5 more precisely that the Server classes destructor was called
10:06 wilkgr Ahh, interesting
10:06 wilkgr Thanks :)
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11:45 Milan[m] uhm... shouldn't i be able to modify the hotbar image like `player:hud_set_hotbar_selecte​d_image('my_hotbar_fg.png')`? I get an error: "Server sent wrong Hud hotbar selected image (sent value: 'my_hotbar_fg.png')
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11:51 Milan[m] oh wait i guess it's just a texturename typo -.-
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11:52 Milan[m] yea now it works ... the error msg is just a bit confusing, had to look into the code to know what actually triggers it :D
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12:46 sare_at_work Hi there, i have a little question:
12:46 sare_at_work i want to start a command in minetest via irc
12:46 sare_at_work and tried it with login <user> <pwd>
12:47 sare_at_work but getting always: Incorrect password or player does not exist
12:47 Raven262 <servername> cmd <command>
12:47 sare_at_work do i need a priv for that?
12:47 Raven262 nope
12:48 Raven262 but i would suggest opening a conversation with the server in irc
12:48 sare_at_work i did
12:48 Raven262 that way people one the server can't see what you type
12:48 Raven262 then
12:48 Raven262 you just use login name passwd
12:48 sare_at_work and the pwd is correct
12:48 sare_at_work "Incorrect password or player does not exist" :/
12:49 Raven262 you might have typed the name wrong
12:49 sare_at_work "sare"... ;)
12:49 sare_at_work not a great thing XD
12:49 Raven262 Hmm
12:49 sare_at_work but i think the problem is on my side
12:49 ThomasMonroe wait sare try your pswd for IRC
12:50 sare_at_work oh, not the minetest pwd?
12:50 Raven262 I think its the minetest pwd
12:50 ThomasMonroe mine are both the same, so idk
12:50 Raven262 if you are loging in to the server
12:50 ThomasMonroe but i had the same problem when they were different
12:50 sare_at_work i will try
12:50 Raven262 mine are different and it works
12:51 sare_at_work no :(
12:51 sare_at_work even with a brandnew account
12:51 sare_at_work strange...
12:52 Raven262 Did you set up your irc mod right?
12:52 Raven262 Maybe something else is the problem.
12:55 sare_at_work i'm not the owner, but i will talk with him, thx so far :)
12:56 lisac It is the Minetest password; not your twitter one
12:56 lisac how would MT mod even know your IRC password?
12:56 lisac maybe you mistyped it
12:57 sare_at_work i created a new account with a super simple password
12:57 lisac and it won't work?
12:57 lisac maybe you are logging in to the wrong server
12:57 Raven262 channel?
12:57 Raven262 Lemme try it
12:58 sare_at_work MMSurvival
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13:04 sare_at_work perhaps an incorrect comparison of the passwords in the irc mod?
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14:20 ThomasMonroe hey calcul0n, i see you are looking at the forum page for MM-Survival
14:27 calcul0n yes, i've seen you were talking about it, just curious :)
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14:30 ThomasMonroe :)
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17:56 melting_madness Hi. I got a problem when compiling minetest. I've installed all dependencies and everything scons couldn't find. After running cmake . -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 -DENABLE_REDIS=1 -DCURSES_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/x8​6_64-linux-gnu/libncurses.so
17:57 KaadmY melting_madness: Minetest doesn't use SCons...?
17:57 melting_madness wait... that wasn't intendet. My message wasn't complete.
17:57 Krock what the heck is scons
17:58 KaadmY Krock: CMake-like build system in Python
17:58 Krock ah
18:03 melting_madness Hi. I got a problem when compiling minetest. I've installed all dependencies and everything *cmake(Sorry for the that) couldn't find. After running cmake . -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 -DENABLE_REDIS=1 -DCURSES_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/x8​6_64-linux-gnu/libncurses.so and the make -j 2 , I get some error at that momment when linking cxx executable ../bin/minetest similar to tha
18:03 melting_madness t appearing at the end of the this pastebin https://pastebin.com/A5z07s7a
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18:04 KaadmY Hm
18:05 KaadmY I'm not sure about this at all, but it looks like you have an older/incompatible version of libcurl or libssl?
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18:06 melting_madness May be possible. I used these present in the official devuan repositories, which are a bit outdated packages.
18:06 MinetestBot [git] DS-Minetest -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Reexport the player model (#1848) 996f168 https://git.io/v7sLk (2017-07-26T18:06:29Z)
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18:14 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: TileLayer: use shared_ptr for FrameSpec vector (#6171) 3e50850 https://git.io/v7smr (2017-07-26T18:12:48Z)
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18:35 melting_madness I now see that there's no package called libcurl3-dev and that I am using libcurl4-openssl-dev instead. I was following this guide: http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest    which told me to install libcurl3-dev, but there's no package called like that according to apt-cache. apt-get uses libcurl4-openssl-dev instead.
18:35 KaadmY Hm
18:35 KaadmY I'm not familiar down Debian's (?) package manager
18:35 KaadmY Or rather, the packages
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18:38 false_chicken Hey everyone. Does anyone know of a space mod for minetest? Something that will generate planets and astroids or something? I saw some youtube videos of a guy playing in a space survival world a while ago but they neglected to mention the mod.
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18:44 Krock !mod asteroid
18:44 MinetestBot Krock: Asteroid and comet realm [asteroid] by paramat - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6674
18:44 Krock ^ false_chicken
18:44 Krock !mod moon
18:44 MinetestBot Krock: Moon Flower by MirceaKitsune - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5479
18:44 false_chicken Thanks!
18:44 rubenwardy !mod [moon]
18:44 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Moon mapgen [moon] by arpruss - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13370
18:44 false_chicken Much appreciated
18:45 Krock no, see this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6329
18:45 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6329
18:45 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Moon realm [0.11.0] [moonrealm] - Minetest Forums
18:45 Krock np
18:45 rubenwardy lol
18:45 Krock !next
18:45 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
18:45 * Krock checks logs for "ninja'd"
18:45 Krock HA NINJA'D, RUBENWARDY
18:51 melting_madness I tried installing minetest from the repository. It works, but it is version 0.4.10 , which is quite old, but it runs. Don't understand why compiling the source fails. I'll try again, hopefully this time it works.
18:53 rubenwardy melting_madness, did you try:  apt install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng-dev libjpeg-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev libgmp-dev libjsoncpp-dev
18:53 calcul0n 0.4.10 is very old afaik
18:54 calcul0n if the goal is to play debian sid is probably a better choice
18:54 rubenwardy lol, it's not even on the changelog
18:54 calcul0n :)
18:54 rubenwardy 0.4.10 was released on July 6, 2014
18:54 rubenwardy so just over 3 years ago
18:54 calcul0n sid has 0.4.16 or anything you need to compile it
18:54 rubenwardy wow
18:55 rubenwardy I've also been in the MT community for 5 years and 6 months
18:57 melting_madness yes, I did install the dependencies. It would fail much sooner if I didn't.
18:57 Fatalintent Ubuntu LTS minetest from apt IS old
18:57 rubenwardy cool
18:57 Fatalintent I ended up using launchpad repo for it: https://launchpad.net/~minete​stdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
18:58 rubenwardy 17.04 LTS has 0.4.15
18:58 rubenwardy so still old
18:58 rubenwardy well, a year
19:01 melting_madness It fails when trying to link cxx executable ../bin/minetest. I have no idea what what is wrong with this step. Here is a similar error at the end of this pastebin: https://pastebin.com/A5z07s7a
19:10 calcul0n as someone said, i think your version of openssl is too old
19:12 calcul0n or libcurl-openssl precisely
19:14 false_chicken For what its worth I just used the stable ppa on 17.04.
19:15 calcul0n ho, ubuntu, i don't know much about it
19:16 riff-IRC I use Xubuntu 16.04
19:17 melting_madness Ok. I'll look for the an updated version of openssl. Here's the original error which doesn't talk about openssl, while the other similar one does(Mine does talk about some Json::Value): https://pastebin.com/gB8Cyr3N
19:17 sfan5 tried -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1 ?
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19:20 melting_madness No, but I'll try it.
19:20 melting_madness a
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19:22 melting_madness According to dpkg -l , I am using version 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6 of openssl. If the -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1 doesn't work, I'll look for a newer version.
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19:45 melting_madness It finally created an executable file. The -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1 works. Final
19:46 melting_madness *Thanks to all!
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19:48 melting_madness And works without problems now. Thanks to all. You all have helped me a lot. Goodby.
20:01 KaadmY o/
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20:43 CalebDavis i got the dev right before the colosinbox redo but my inventory items wont spin why?
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21:12 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused Map::getDayNightDiff + fix one undefined variable in ma… 9d412dd https://git.io/v7sX5 (2017-07-26T21:11:46Z)
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21:40 GreenDimond VanessaE, could I bug you for a second?
21:40 VanessaE hm?
21:41 GreenDimond When you made the plasma ball in homedecor, were there any settings you used when you exported it?
21:41 GreenDimond Because I cant get my model to use 2 textures
21:41 GreenDimond it uses the static texture for the animated part
21:41 GreenDimond even though I told it to use the animated texture
21:41 VanessaE you just have to use multiple materials
21:41 GreenDimond And I do have multiple
21:41 VanessaE export with materials as object groups
21:42 VanessaE I think that's what I did
21:42 GreenDimond "[x] Material Groups"?
21:42 VanessaE that's the one
21:42 GreenDimond alright I hadnt done that. Lets see if that works..
21:43 GreenDimond whoops
21:43 GreenDimond reversed the texture order
21:43 VanessaE well you suck then :)
21:43 GreenDimond indeed
21:43 VanessaE also:  grep "g " <file.obj>
21:43 VanessaE (g space)
21:44 GreenDimond why?
21:44 VanessaE that'll show you the groups in the file, which more or less tells you the order of the textures in your code
21:44 GreenDimond ah
21:44 GreenDimond that makes sense
21:44 GreenDimond yay! it uses the correct textures now. Now I need to figure out why the animated texture looks wrong :P
21:45 GreenDimond ty VanessaE
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21:45 VanessaE yw, good luck
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21:57 HarvettFox96 are "CC BY" 3.0 and/or 4.0 good idea?
21:59 sofar yes, very
21:59 VanessaE for textures and sounds, definitely
21:59 sofar not for code
21:59 VanessaE for code too perhaps
21:59 VanessaE though some might prefer gpl
21:59 sofar MIT is better for code
21:59 sofar MIT for code, CC-BY for assets
21:59 sofar alternatively
21:59 VanessaE MIT works too
21:59 VanessaE or wtfpl
21:59 VanessaE or whjatever
22:00 HarvettFox96 yeah
22:00 VanessaE -j
22:00 sofar gpl for code, CC-BY-SA for assets -> more copyleft
22:01 HarvettFox96 otherwise CC BY and CC BY-SA are also compatible, right?
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22:01 VanessaE on thingiverse for my models I use cc-by-sa-nc usually
22:01 VanessaE (because people have a habit of downloading said models, claiming them as their own, and then selling printed copies)
22:05 sofar NC doesn't prevent piracy
22:05 sofar it prevents commercial use
22:06 sofar -SA has some negative issues too, but in general as an amateur / for free developer it's good for OSS usage
22:06 VanessaE exactly
22:06 VanessaE gives me something I could reasonably sue for if I have to
22:06 HarvettFox96 thus means NC as prohibits resale
22:06 HarvettFox96 *this means
22:07 VanessaE yeah
22:07 sofar commercial use (not only sale)
22:07 HarvettFox96 and possibly incompatible
22:08 VanessaE sofar: implied :)
22:10 HarvettFox96 so anyway, i'll publish into NotABug.org (git) for upcoming two variants of current Harvett Fox's skin under CC BY 3.0 nearly later
22:10 HarvettFox96 i'm outta here right now
22:17 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Remove one unused variable in Server::Receive function c8faee4 https://git.io/v7s5K (2017-07-26T22:16:20Z)
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22:24 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Noise::perlinMap2D,3D: replace a loop init with a single memset call bc1654f https://git.io/v7sdS (2017-07-26T22:24:14Z)
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