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00:01 Errante Ive 250k DOGEs on the testnet which I would like to make rain through a minetest world. But I cant get even irc mod to work
00:03 Errante irc mod is on mod's folder and luasocket at bin folder. when loading a world with irc mod enabled the game closes
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07:35 frostsnow Egh all of my Stone Bricks are auto-facing North whereas they used to be dynamically placed... is there a button I can hold down so they don't auto-face?
07:36 frostsnow "dynamically placed" as in their direction was dependent on how I placed them
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07:53 frostsnow Okay, I just commented out 'place_param2 = 0' in the Stone Brick definition.  That'll do for now.
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08:22 tumeninodes !tell frostsnow paramtype2 = "facedir",
08:22 MinetestBot tumeninodes: yeah, sure, whatever
08:23 tumeninodes pffff whatevs MinetestBot, nice attitude
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08:31 frostsnow I definitely like having facedir, just not the default facedir.
08:31 MinetestBot frostsnow: Aug-25 08:22 UTC <tumeninodes> paramtype2 = "facedir",
08:31 frostsnow Since I already have all of my roads facing West
08:32 frostsnow It's either redo thousands upon thousands of road blocks or use hundred of screwdrivers fixing future roads
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08:37 hisforever I'd like to do a poat of error code but
08:38 hisforever i don't see where to et the url to copy it in here
08:42 hisforever sorry I'll try this again. I copyed my degug.txt to Pastebin.com. I don't see where to post it, to get the url to put the link in here?
08:55 Krock uhm.. look at the address bar?
08:55 hisforever ty Krock
08:55 Krock Pastebin -> Ctrl + V into the text field -> Create New Paste -> Do Captcha -> Copy URL
08:56 Krock can't be more difficult than that
09:01 hisforever ok her we go https://pastebin.com/FyJL51Xk
09:02 hisforever When this crash accoured I was using the Digtrom.
09:08 Krock what crash? I don't see any
09:09 Krock there are just plenty of mod name conflicts
09:09 hisforever humm ok thats interisting
09:10 hisforever love to know how to resolve those texture errors
09:10 Krock grep "tile_images"
09:13 hisforever sorry I'm not good at this code stuff. I'm disabled and slow at most things. I eas born with Ceberal alsey
09:13 hisforever was =eas lol
09:13 Krock doesn't matter how long it takes if you get it right finally
09:14 hisforever true :)
09:14 hisforever palsey - asy
09:15 Krock are you sure there's no further information in your debug.txt about this crash? From what I see the process was just killed instantly
09:16 hisforever to to my knoledge
09:17 hisforever Sorry I have to go get some Sleep its 5:16 here and I have a octore visit at 11:00 God bless
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10:01 Tirifto Hello all!
10:02 Tirifto Question: In (advanced) game settings, does “block” more likely refer to a block or to a node?
10:03 Tirifto (What I mean by “block” here is 16×16×16 nodes.)
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10:16 Krock block is a block, otherwise it would be called node
10:16 Krock and if it's called block but means a node, then it's documented wronly
10:17 Tirifto Got it; thanks!
10:19 Tirifto Also, is “mapblock” the same thing as block, then?
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10:53 Krock http://dev.minetest.net/Terminology yes, Tirifto
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11:16 MinetestBot [git] Ekdohibs -> minetest/minetest: Translations: prevent remote crash with invalid translations 6761e21 https://git.io/v5YqB (2017-08-25T11:06:59Z)
11:18 Tirifto Krock: Ah, thanks for the link, that'll be useful. :)
11:21 MinetestBot [git] juhdanad -> minetest/minetest: Overlays for wield and inventory images (#6107) f6a33a1 https://git.io/v5Yqb (2017-08-25T11:20:53Z)
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11:32 Megaf celeron55, Are you subscribed to this channel? https://www.youtube.com/chan​nel/UCU9SoQxJewrWb_3GxeteQPA
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12:22 celeron55 Megaf: yes, altough i'm not sure if i like it
12:26 Megaf I am in the same situation
12:26 Megaf I like EEVBlog and that guy that fixes apples
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13:05 jas_ Ferouz796 punches object 30626: LuaEntitySAO at (-242.768,-2.38419e-08,-3.232), with precision!
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13:56 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Network cleanup  (#6310) 3cea7a3 https://git.io/v5YR1 (2017-08-25T13:53:56Z)
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14:01 Grossam_Mynetest Hi ! I'm trying to upgrade my client to latest version, but I'm in trouble
14:02 Grossam_Mynetest Could someone help me please ?
14:03 sfan5 just describe your problem, maybe someone is able to help
14:04 Grossam_Mynetest OK ! I just get no exe in the /bin directory and some error messages when doing 'make'
14:05 Grossam_Mynetest First I use git pull to update the sources : all seems fine
14:05 Grossam_Mynetest Then :
14:07 Grossam_Mynetest cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE
14:08 Grossam_Mynetest And I've several message like this one : Could NOT find LuaJit (missing:  LUA_LIBRARY LUA_INCLUDE_DIR)
14:08 sfan5 i'd suggest you just put the error messages you got on a pastebin
14:08 Grossam_Mynetest A pastebin ? (I'm an IRC noob)
14:09 sfan5 pastebin.com
14:10 Grossam_Mynetest here it is : https://pastebin.com/dHJn8J2P
14:11 Dumbeldor Grossam_Mynetest: https://github.com/minetest/m​inetest#compiling-on-gnulinux
14:11 Grossam_Mynetest I upgraded twice from that source dir and all went well…
14:12 Dumbeldor Go install package ;)
14:12 Grossam_Mynetest I miss some dependancies ?
14:13 Dumbeldor Yes i think
14:13 Grossam_Mynetest I had them all last time. So there are new deps ?
14:14 sfan5 no this should work fine
14:14 sfan5 which errors do you receive when you do `make`?
14:14 Grossam_Mynetest Or maybe I should upgrade my installed packages ?
14:14 Grossam_Mynetest here's the terminal : https://pastebin.com/dHJn8J2P
14:16 sfan5 i'm asking about `make` not `cmake`
14:16 Grossam_Mynetest Oh sorry !
14:17 Grossam_Mynetest Here : https://pastebin.com/PgGstz56
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14:19 Grossam_Mynetest Apparently somehing to do with that Json thingy…
14:19 Grossam_Mynetest OK ! My OS is updated now.
14:20 sfan5 try adding -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1 to the cmake line
14:21 Grossam_Mynetest so a second option ?
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14:22 Grossam_Mynetest Like this ? cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1
14:24 Grossam_Mynetest Seems beetter : https://pastebin.com/DNktp4wk
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14:29 Grossam_Mynetest Should I try the make now ?
14:31 Dumbeldor Yeah try :P
14:31 Grossam_Mynetest OK let's go !
14:31 Grossam_Mynetest Everything's green so far…
14:33 Grossam_Mynetest 50% and still green
14:34 Grossam_Mynetest Mistakes : ! https://pastebin.com/mSb1zXyq
14:35 Grossam_Mynetest This time I've got a binary but it crashes as soon as opened
14:35 Dumbeldor "Erreur de segmentation" you are french ? :P
14:36 Grossam_Mynetest I'm !
14:36 Grossam_Mynetest debug.txt : https://pastebin.com/H2Z7wyHg
14:41 Grossam_Mynetest Stop me if I'm wrong : I'm trying to compile the 0.5.0 ? I'd like ti get the 0.4.16, maybe a part of the problem ?
14:44 Dumbeldor Yeah for compile minetest 0.5 you need GCC 5.1 minmal
14:44 sfan5 lul
14:44 Dumbeldor minimal *
14:44 sfan5 Grossam_Mynetest: you need to install a newer compiler
14:44 sfan5 yours can't deal with minetest sources
14:44 Dumbeldor :p
14:45 Grossam_Mynetest Oh ! And how could I uprgrade to 4.16 ? From github ?
14:46 Grossam_Mynetest There are only the dev version sources ?
14:46 Dumbeldor Upgrade your gcc
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14:47 Grossam_Mynetest how do i do that ? What the name of the package I need ?
14:47 sfan5 try installing gcc-4.9
14:47 sfan5 if that works then you also need to call cmake like    CC=gcc-4.9 CXX=g++-49 cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE
14:52 Grossam_Mynetest I think I was already in 4.9…
14:52 Grossam_Mynetest Let's try it again
14:53 Dumbeldor Yes you have 4.9 :D
14:53 Dumbeldor But if you want compile minetest 0.5 you need gcc 5.1 minimal
14:53 Grossam_Mynetest so I absolutely need 5.1 ?
14:53 Grossam_Mynetest OK
14:54 Grossam_Mynetest But where is the 0.4.16 sourcecode ?
14:55 Dumbeldor I think you can
14:55 Grossam_Mynetest Hey ! It just worked !
14:56 Dumbeldor Yeah ! Good job :D
14:56 Grossam_Mynetest 0.5.0 is now opened !
14:56 Dumbeldor Oh, you compile minetest 0.5.0 with gcc 4.9 ?
14:56 Grossam_Mynetest I did !
14:56 Dumbeldor :d
14:57 Grossam_Mynetest It seems to work !
14:58 Dumbeldor Good :)
14:58 Grossam_Mynetest I don't understand : I di apt-get install gcc-4.9 and add a reply "4.9 is already the most recent version"
14:58 Grossam_Mynetest Anyway I tried to compile again, and it woeked !
14:58 Dumbeldor Haha
14:59 Grossam_Mynetest Bur now gcc is marked as "installed manually" so it won't upgrade anymore with apt-get ?
15:01 Grossam_Mynetest Will it ?
15:04 Grossam_Mynetest OK ! gtg ! Thank you Dumbledor and sfan5 for your precious help.
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16:02 Errante does anyone use windows? Im trying to install irc mod, but cant get it working. kaeza's special setup for windows isnt helping since his custom luasockets arent avaliable nor the makefile
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19:55 Megaf celeron55, subscribed to ben heck show too? He have been trying to make a N64 portable for months already, several episodes and dead N64 after he finally managed to make one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bgALYHtsXw
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20:57 celeron55 Megaf: well eevblog certainly sucks, lol
20:57 celeron55 that guy should get the "most annoying guy in the world" award
20:59 celeron55 ben heck show seems too amateur for me
20:59 celeron55 i like to watch stuff that is actually difficult done by pros
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21:08 Krock celeron55, out of interest: are you more into Analog or Digital electronics?
21:10 celeron55 neither
21:10 Krock oh?
21:10 celeron55 i'm into electronics that has a purpose and does it well
21:10 sofar I think he's into organic entities
21:10 sofar possibly the female type
21:10 celeron55 that too
21:10 celeron55 but i think we're talking about youtube
21:11 celeron55 diagnostic videos are interesting
21:12 celeron55 the more complex the system that is broken, the better
21:12 Krock audio amplifiers always are an interesting theme, as it can be done on many different ways and is easy to debug, even with poor man's equipment
21:13 Fixer celeron55: smth like this crap? https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup/videos
21:13 Krock finding problems and fixing them is a real challenge :)
21:13 Fixer CREATING PROBLEM AND FIXING THEM
21:14 Fixer *light rays*
21:14 celeron55 Fixer: i think i saw that channel at some point but don't remember why i didn't like it
21:14 Fixer celeron55: apple
21:14 celeron55 the video thumbnails seem annoying
21:15 Krock Fixer, nah, that's boring. you'd know where the problem is
21:15 Krock "TWO MINUTE BOARD REPAIR", 6:29
21:16 Fixer high tech @ low life
21:17 Fixer cyberpunk is today
21:20 celeron55 South Main Auto Repair and Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics make very nice automotive diagnostic and repair videos
21:22 celeron55 them being in northern US makes an interesting environment for electronics
21:22 celeron55 everything corrodes and rusts and just falls apart
21:23 celeron55 (pretty much like in finland, but somewhat worse)
21:24 celeron55 you really see the laws of physics and chemistry and all that at work
21:25 celeron55 of course if you're a city person and don't care about cars, then you're probably not very interested
21:27 Megaf celeron55, I kinda like EEVBlog, he knows what he is talking about, well, at least when he is talking about electronic components and physics
21:27 celeron55 engineering becomes most fun after someone engineered something, someone bought it and put it in use and then you look at it years later
21:28 Fixer eevblog guy voice is horrifying
21:28 celeron55 the eevblog guy is like a teacher; he's good at talking bullshit to people that don't know anything
21:28 celeron55 he hasn't even worked in the industry for a long time
21:29 Megaf I have to agree in the teacher part
21:31 celeron55 AvE and bigclivedotcom are very interesting
21:31 celeron55 they work in the industry also
21:35 celeron55 then there's eric the car guy, but i never watch his main channel, i just watch his meta channel "ETCG1"; there are some interesting philosophies and stuff in there sometimes
21:36 celeron55 more tech channels i watch: KREOSAN, bosnianbill, Techmoan, Rinoa Super-Genius
21:37 celeron55 LGR
21:37 celeron55 Hydraulic Press Channel has some videos with more science than you'd expect
21:37 Megaf AvE is very nice yes
21:37 Megaf bigclivedotcom is dumb sometimes
21:38 Megaf Techmoan is epic
21:39 celeron55 Model 3 Owners Club is fun if you want to watch 50 year old tesla fanboys being really hyped
21:41 Megaf I want this car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMb3CwK809w
21:41 celeron55 california car videos are boring; it's so easy mode there
21:41 celeron55 same thing for australia
21:42 celeron55 nothing rusts, super old cars are like new, it never even rains
21:42 Megaf mighty car mods :)
21:42 Megaf I watch lots of Australian and New Zeeland channels
21:42 Megaf well, time to go to bed
21:42 Megaf cya
21:42 celeron55 i don't watch videos that don't have anything difficult in them 8)
21:42 Megaf right
21:42 Megaf you should watch mighty car mods then
21:43 Megaf good night
21:43 celeron55 i think they just break cars
21:43 celeron55 it's stupid
21:43 celeron55 night
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22:18 MinetestBot [git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Mushroom spread: Optimise and make overridable bcf98df https://git.io/v5OBl (2017-08-25T22:07:19Z)
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