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04:01 jay_ hello
04:02 jay_ anyone know a good document to help me start coding my own mods?
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06:13 wrcwpk Hey guys question, I'm using itemstack:get_name() and the api says it should return something like "default:dirt" but instead I am getting "table: 0x<hexcode>" can't figure out how come. any tips?
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06:21 jas_ Invref then itemstck then getname
06:22 wrcwpk[m] Sorry could you elaboorate on that, i'm quite new to minetest dev
06:27 wrcwpk[m] This is being used in a tools on_place(...) method so I don't have an inventory to reference
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06:45 Lukc The player’s, probably.
06:46 jas_ Show code? On_place(itemstack) ?
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06:50 jas_ on_place(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing)
06:50 wrcwpk[m] http://paste.ubuntu.com/25406034/
06:50 jas_ K
06:51 jas_ Is it the curly brackets?
06:52 wrcwpk[m] Uhh yeah this is embarassing. I added those cause I was getting a syntax earlier without them but now it works so I'm guessing I had something else wrong. Thanks for that
06:53 jas_ Welcome have fun
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07:31 spoky99 someone know how mining tantalium?
07:40 hisforever HI is there a better mod For Flowers?
07:46 wrcwpk[m] There are several, what kind of flowers do you want are you looking for growable flowers or what
07:47 hisforever I'd like to have a group of flowers not just 1
07:48 hisforever ty wecwpk{m}
07:49 hisforever This is where mintest is lacking, but its still an awesone game :)
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09:52 spoky99 someone know how mining tantalium?
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10:12 habeangur spoky99: wot?
10:12 habeangur spoky99: if that's radio active, don't, you'll die :P
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13:15 MinetestBot [git] lupoDharkael -> minetest/minetest: More readable default controls in README de331b1 https://git.io/v53Qc (2017-08-27T13:12:52Z)
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13:25 YuGiOhJCJ hello, on SONOF Raspberry Pi server, with Minetest 0.4.16 and Irrlicht 1.8.1, my client often crashes after playing some minutes: https://pastebin.com/QzujXh7Q do you know why?
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14:20 Fixer YuGiOhJCJ: can you post this on github?
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14:49 YuGiOhJCJ Fixer, yes later
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16:40 MinetestBot [git] zeuner -> minetest/minetest: Lua API: Add function to deregister single biomes (#5445) 1f207a3 https://git.io/v53ht (2017-08-27T16:39:47Z)
16:40 MinetestBot [git] HybridDog -> minetest/minetest: core.get_objects_inside_radius: Omit removed objects (#6318) e09c7fc https://git.io/v53hq (2017-08-27T16:38:50Z)
16:42 spoky99 someone know how mining titanium?
16:43 Krock what kind of titanium? this one? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3113
16:44 Krock use F5 to show the debug information. it should tell you the node name and with it, the mod which adds it
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16:48 spoky99 with f5 i know the tipe of titanium or in the debug I could see how to mine it?
16:51 Krock you can see the internal node name, which leads to the mod that adds it to the game. Once the mod is known, I can look up the source to tell you how to mine it
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16:52 spoky99 thanks!
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16:55 Krock so.. is there any name you could get from the debug information?
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17:04 pranav excuse me. can u tell me who is oldcoder and why do we an=void him??
17:04 pranav avoid
17:04 habeangur who avoids oldcoder?
17:05 pranav well why do ppl telll me to stay away frm him??
17:05 Krock pranav, 1 minute
17:05 juhdanad pranav: i suggest you should read some posts from minetest.org if you would like to understand who is OldCoder.
17:06 pranav i read them..so what
17:06 pranav he is some guy who hates minetest \\
17:06 pranav i guess i read a bit of it only
17:06 habeangur wot?!?!?!
17:06 habeangur hates minetest?!?!?
17:06 habeangur O.o
17:06 rubenwardy He's abusive and agressively hostile
17:07 MinetestBot [git] Ekdohibs -> minetest/minetest: Statbars: fix incorrect half-images in non-standard orientations (fix… 520b481 https://git.io/v53j4 (2017-08-27T17:06:40Z)
17:07 pranav i said i read a bit of it only
17:07 pranav tell me why u think that
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17:07 rubenwardy I think that partially due to the 286 emails I've received
17:07 rdococ should I compile 0.4.17 until 0.5.0 gets a bit more stable?
17:07 sfan5 rubenwardy: 🤔
17:07 rdococ if 0.4.17 is out yet, that is
17:07 rubenwardy and also due to the 10s of private messages on IRC
17:07 sfan5 rdococ: just stay at the stable release (0.4.16)
17:08 pranav what has he done which makes u think that
17:08 Krock rubenwardy, 286? 60 within 8 days just recently. they're active writers
17:08 pranav oldcoder
17:08 Krock about the amount of emails I'd usually get in two years
17:08 pranav im jst curious
17:08 habeangur rdococ, you said .4.17 is out?
17:08 rdococ idk, is it?
17:09 rdococ I said "if it is out"
17:09 pranav cmon wud no one tell me what oldcod3r did which makes u think that
17:09 habeangur rdococ: I thought after 0.4.16 a new release won't come for a relatively long time(months)
17:09 Krock 0.4.17 will, if ever, get out about to the same time as 0.5.0
17:10 rdococ habeangur: do you know what the wors "if" means?
17:10 habeangur rdococ: ok
17:10 pranav my server admin literally told me off when i tried to ask him whjo is oldcoder
17:10 rdococ s/wors/word/
17:10 pranav pls cmon tell me about him someone
17:10 rdococ pranav: that's literally bonkers
17:10 pranav oldcoder
17:10 pranav what
17:10 pranav is bonkers
17:10 rdococ people shouting at you for asking who oldcoder is
17:10 pranav ok bt why is he so unpopular
17:11 pranav cmon tell me
17:11 rdococ nah, my memory's too foggy
17:12 pranav mann!!!
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17:13 habeangur why minetest pupil are everywhere(in freenode)?
17:13 sfan5 wut
17:13 rdococ wut
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17:13 rdococ question what malformed word(inchra out)?
17:14 habeangur or maybe I join where they join because we have the same interests?
17:14 habeangur or maybe Minetest is too much popular!
17:15 rdococ ...can you rephrase your question in English?
17:15 habeangur rdococ: ...
17:15 rdococ seriously, I have no idea what you just said. are you talking about minors playing MT?
17:16 habeangur minetest people = those one who play minetest
17:16 Krock Minetest is not popular enough and thus, the "Minetest people" are not everywhere
17:16 habeangur but freenode is full of students, programmers, unixians, etc
17:16 rdococ dude, you said minetest pupil
17:17 habeangur so those players are usually a little more than just "plain players"
17:17 habeangur did I insult anyone/any team/anything?
17:17 rdococ The freenode IRC network is an IRC network, of course it's going to be full of people like that. The general public don't even know what IRC is.
17:17 habeangur rdococ: yes...
17:18 habeangur ok, I think I had to use the word "minetester" because minetest people mean those who are in develpers team
17:18 rubenwardy I'm not really sure what you mean, habeangur
17:19 habeangur rubenwardy: minetesters are everywhere!
17:19 Natechip well I mean. theres lots of people involved with minetest at one time who hang in these channels. I can normally recongnize someone
17:19 habeangur Natechip: you here too?
17:19 habeangur oh yes you were admin of a server
17:19 Krock no. he's actually not here
17:19 Krock it's your imagination, trying to tell you some lies
17:19 Natechip but its not like they are in all the channels. not at all. theres thousands of channels on freenode...
17:20 Natechip habeangur: ya im main owner of MM-Survival and HCBSurvival
17:20 Natechip probably see me in lots of channels XD
17:20 habeangur by anywhere I meant most channels which I'm there
17:21 rubenwardy I stumbled across Natechip just the other day!
17:22 Natechip rubenwardy: tru dat :D
17:22 Natechip XD
17:23 rdococ habeangur: you should clarify. both "minetester" and "minetest people" could refer to both devs and players.
17:23 Natechip habeangur: maybe u see ppl from here in your channels cuz u might find the channels by hearing from others around you. thus these minetest fellows
17:23 rubenwardy subliminal suggestions
17:24 rdococ I'd use the terms "developer" (for people working on the core), "modder" (for people using the Lua API, like me), and "player" (for people who just play).
17:24 * rubenwardy isn't on very many: #live #lua #nginx @#minetest-hub +#minetest-dev #minetest #android-dev #8dromeda
17:24 rdococ although a dev could also play, a modder might start devving (even if it's in a fork of MT), etc.
17:24 rdococ rubenwardy: I am on literally a billion channels
17:24 rubenwardy > literally
17:24 rdococ and that's barely figurative
17:24 sfan5 figuratively
17:25 rdococ sfan5: it's more literal than you'd think
17:25 rdococ also, figuratively doesn't emphasize the point
17:25 rdococ literally does
17:25 sfan5 millenials are ruining english
17:26 rdococ sorry for being born in the wrong century then
17:26 rdococ >-<
17:26 rubenwardy not all of us, sfan5
17:26 habeangur rdococ: by minetesters I meant players but because it's freenode, they are at least a little more than players
17:26 rdococ people need to realize that you don't get a GUI that allows you to press a button and you get born in that year
17:26 rdococ it's ridiculous. and dare I say, literally ridiculous.
17:26 rdococ English is not being ruined, it is evolving.
17:27 habeangur rdococ: Admins of servers are in which group?
17:27 rdococ habeangur: dude, you just referred to them with an unambiguous term, why do you need to classify it further
17:28 rdococ sfan5: from now on, I will be like, "I'm going to change my grammar on purpose to annoy sfan5 until s/he literally blows up." :P
17:29 sfan5 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
17:30 habeangur Oh and I forgot something, freenode is for software, people usually join for example ##linux, #minetest, #ubuntu, #i3, #vim, etc
17:30 rdococ sfan5: nice unicode dude
17:30 rdococ even though it doesn't show up on this font.
17:30 Lone-Star rdococ: yes, the english language is degrading. if it continues it's current path, it will consist of only grunts and clicks like in primitive days
17:30 habeangur rdococ: I just saw question marks...
17:31 rubenwardy 🤷🤷🤷
17:31 habeangur ????
17:32 rdococ Lone-Star: you have it wrong, english will degrade into a series of emojis
17:32 rubenwardy 👆
17:32 habeangur when someone talks with you in QML, you should talk with him in the same language
17:32 Lone-Star same difference
17:32 rdococ also, just because grunts and clicks sound foreign doesn't automatically make them primitive
17:35 rdococ <body><pronoun person=1 type="subject" /><verb name="speak" tense="present" /><preposition name="in" /><noun name="XML" /></body>
17:36 rubenwardy pronoun[person;subject] verb[speak;present] preposition[in] noun[formspec]
17:37 * rubenwardy shivers in disgust
17:41 rdococ is that pronoun in first, second or third person?
17:42 pranav * what is going on
17:42 rubenwardy I could care more
17:42 pranav how to do this * thing
17:42 rubenwardy pranav, /me
17:42 rubenwardy you can also do that in Minetest
17:43 * rdococ remembers when I used to use first person pronouns in /me commands
17:44 rdococ Pronoun(1, 1) + Verb("speak", t) + Preposition("in") + Noun(Prefix("pseudo") + Hyphen() + Root("code"))
17:44 rdococ where t = 2OS.2GetCurrentTime()
17:46 habeangur while (t != Os.GetDinnerTime()); OS.EatDinner(OS.Foods.Pizza(0, 1));
17:46 habeangur s/Os/OS/g
17:47 rdococ Eh?
17:48 rdococ 4X Error     | Malformed "2while" invocation
17:51 rdococ YAY
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17:57 habeangur rubenwardy: it's a long time which I was studing your book and your nicely formatted API, but now I know who is the author! I just wanted to say thanks
17:57 rubenwardy thanks :D
17:57 habeangur rubenwardy: for the book  and formatted API
17:57 rubenwardy I'm hoping to add new chapters and improve things soon!
17:57 habeangur rubenwardy: good :)
17:58 juhdanad rubenwardy: may I help with hardware colorization?
17:58 rubenwardy sure!
17:58 rubenwardy juhdanad, https://github.com/rubenwa​rdy/minetest_modding_book
17:58 rubenwardy it may be worth adding a new chapter
17:58 rubenwardy idk
17:59 rubenwardy maybe "Node Paramtypes"?
18:00 juhdanad Now I see that it is Markdown, not HTML! It was suprising.
18:00 rubenwardy makes writing it easier
18:01 rubenwardy it's annoying how markdown doesn't officially support macros
18:01 habeangur yea
18:02 habeangur but the first part :p
18:02 rubenwardy then I could do something like   #tip:  Make sure to save the file!
18:02 rubenwardy and it would put it in a nice box
18:02 rubenwardy instead I have to use HTML
18:02 rubenwardy see https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rubenwardy/mi​netest_modding_book/gh-pages/en/chapters/hud.md
18:02 rubenwardy although github displays it rather nicely
18:03 rdococ ████ ████ █
18:03 pranav sry to tune it to a depressing note bt...
18:03 pranav why r ppl on minetest srvers decrasing
18:03 rdococ ?
18:04 rubenwardy heh
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18:04 rubenwardy there's 594 people online currently
18:04 rdococ I didn't even know people could decrase
18:04 * rdococ tries decrasing
18:04 rubenwardy a year or so ago it was 200 ish
18:04 pranav yeah bt that totaled by bots and spam players
18:04 pranav decrease
18:04 pranav ok
18:05 pranav and i cannot see many on servers
18:05 pranav like..playing
18:05 rdococ I don't really care about bots and spammers, to be honest. What really (sfan5: literally) grinds my gears is the mobile clients that charge you for things like fly.
18:05 pranav bt pppl who PLAY minetest r decresing
18:06 rdococ I should try decresing too.
18:06 pranav sry....bt wht is the meaning of devs whn players r decrasing
18:06 sfan5 i decrease every night in my sleep
18:06 pranav not to say u guys stop
18:06 rdococ what is an u guy?
18:06 pranav goddamn wud u guys jst stop ot
18:06 rdococ uh
18:06 pranav it
18:07 rdococ what do "wud", "u", "jst" and "ot" mean?
18:07 pranav bt pppl who PLAY minetest r decreasing
18:07 pranav happy now
18:07 rdococ I'm not a grammar freak but this is funny
18:07 pranav ppl means people
18:07 rdococ "bt". "pppl".
18:07 pranav bt means but
18:07 rdococ I know what ppl means. but not what pppl means.
18:07 sfan5 anyway what's your point?
18:07 rdococ are you sure you didn't mean to say "butt"? :P
18:08 pranav i mean to say that PEOPLE who are playing minetest are DECREASING
18:08 sfan5 and?
18:08 pranav and devs SHOULD do something about it maybe
18:08 pranav IT
18:09 pranav BECAUSE no meaning to improve game without PEOPLE playing it
18:10 juhdanad But to make people play the game, one has to improve it.
18:11 juhdanad If people don't play the game that gives more meaning to develop it because it is not good enough.
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18:14 rdococ MY caps LOCK button KEEPS turning ON and OFF randomly WHEN I place SPACE, WHAT the FU
18:14 rdococ N
18:14 Natechip apperently autocorrect isnt working either rdococ
18:15 rdococ wat IS autokurrekt?
18:15 rdococ eer, i MEEN ORtokurrekct
18:16 pranav yeah bt it doesnt seem to be increasing
18:16 pranav YEAH mine TOO
18:16 Errante Hello, got irc mod working, but not under windows, got it with fedora, lua-socket-compat and compat-lua
18:16 pranav rDocOC
18:17 rdococ PWaMaW
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19:50 habeangur again they said bots
19:50 habeangur ...
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19:57 jas_ lol
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20:00 spoky99_ I have the debug info for titanium, pointing to the bloch this is the result "pointing_at xtraores:stone_with_titanium - default_stone.png^xtraores_mineral_titanium.png"
20:01 spoky99_ how I can bring it?
20:01 rubenwardy !mod xtraores
20:01 MinetestBot rubenwardy: xtraores 2016.03.23 [xtraores] by davidthecreator - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12798
20:03 wrcwpk[m] spoky99_: what do you mean bring it? Like mine the block?
20:03 spoky99_ yess
20:04 spoky99_ I read and re read the forum, for other extraores is writen the mining materia of the pick, for the titanium is missing or my poor english don't help me find it
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20:05 wrcwpk[m] From m-ore mod?
20:07 spoky99_ for crafting an armor, I see a player with a titanium armor and give a lot of power
20:08 wrcwpk[m] https://youtu.be/RrfIP3jvU98?t=5m43s
20:09 wrcwpk[m] Checkout that video starting where I linked it to and it will show you how to make titanium
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20:26 spoky99_ thanksQ!
20:26 spoky99_ thanks!
20:55 nore ~tell Wuzzy you might want to test the scripts in https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6325 for the translations
20:55 ShadowBot nore: O.K.
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21:35 IhrFussel Will you people EVER stop with this "bots" nonsense?
21:35 Bobr u ok IhrFussel?
21:35 IhrFussel Just because they have a name with a number at the end doesn't make them bots
21:36 Bobr true
21:37 IhrFussel I was reading the IRC log where pranav said "people that play minetest are decreasing while bot players are increasing" which is bullcrap
21:37 Bobr yep
21:38 IhrFussel But some people seem 100% sure that those mobile players are bots...I wish I could show them the source code of the many clone apps that contains the HUGE list of names
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22:46 Lone-Star ok, why would a mod disable itself after game is shut down?
22:46 Lone-Star handle_schematics is the mod in question
22:50 sc3k-x200 how would i remove a players inventory on death?
22:50 rubenwardy see the bones could
22:50 rubenwardy *code
22:50 sc3k-x200 ok
22:50 rubenwardy it uses    minetest.register_on_dieplayer
22:50 rubenwardy then clears the inventory
22:51 rubenwardy so you could do       local inv = player:get_inventory()           inv:set_list("main", {})
22:51 rubenwardy there's also craft
22:51 rubenwardy inv:set_list("craft", {})     I believe
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22:55 mmeme hello
22:56 sc3k-x200 rubenwardy, thanks i will try it
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