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01:00 scr267 i'm attempting to modify a lua script to set physics_speed to the group property of some boots, but there doesn't seem to be any effect... Does anyone have any suggestions?
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02:42 Lone-Star alright, who broke the forums :D
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02:53 erstazi Lone-Star: haha, I was about to say the same thing
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02:58 GreenDimond is the forum down for anyone else?
02:59 erstazi GreenDimond: down for me as well
02:59 erstazi Not sure who maintains that
03:00 erstazi GreenDimond: you can use google cache to view older posts
03:00 erstazi VanessaE: I see that you are an admin on the forums. The forums are down (if you didn't know)
03:00 GreenDimond No good if I want to post posts
03:01 VanessaE I'm only a moderator there and have no control over that aspect.
03:03 erstazi VanessaE: ah ok. Thanks!
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03:17 erstazi This is odd. I have 0.4.16 with homedecor with unifieddyes and moreblocks and moreores. I had a world created before that had colored chairs. Let's say black chair. If I remove the chair then the chair reverts to a white chair. And I cannot craft colored chairs.
03:18 erstazi Did a git pull for all the mods and I am at the latest for each.
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03:28 erstazi Oh, I see the issue now!
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03:54 BBmine Forums are down for me as well.
03:54 habeangur lemme see
03:54 habeangur General Error?
03:54 habeangur BBmine: ^
03:54 BBmine Yes
03:55 habeangur I get the same error
03:56 BBmine On a different topic, does anyone know how to go back to minetest stable from a compiled minetest-dev?
03:56 BBmine Linux btw
03:57 habeangur BBmine: you did make && make install?
03:57 BBmine Yes
03:58 habeangur BBmine: usually when you install software in this way there is not way to uninstall it unless developers have implemented make uninstall or such thing with the makefile
03:59 BBmine Oh
03:59 BBmine Then I guess I'll try the dirty way....
04:00 habeangur BBmine: deleting files?
04:00 habeangur BBmine: no wait maybe others suggest you something
04:00 BBmine Yes, it's the way I did it last time.
04:00 MrXtreme The forum is down. :'(
04:00 BBmine And it worked.
04:00 MrXtreme Hi BBmine
04:00 BBmine MrXtreme: I know
04:01 BBmine And hi
04:01 habeangur BBmine: you can read makefile's install section to know which files should be removed
04:01 BBmine Wait, are you XtremeHacker?
04:01 MrXtreme Yeah
04:01 BBmine Figured!
04:01 MrXtreme Changed my online identity as I realized XtremeHacker wasn't the best choice
04:02 BBmine Yeah.....
04:02 MrXtreme xD
04:02 BBmine I thought you was a hacker when I first saw that name.
04:02 MrXtreme Yeah, I've got that a lot...
04:03 MrXtreme The one good thing is it usually wasn't picked. :P
04:03 MrXtreme Unlike my current nick...
04:04 BBmine I just wiped out minetest....
04:04 BBmine I hope it was the right on
04:04 BBmine one*
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04:08 muhdnurhidayat ok... who break the forum? lol...
04:10 BBmine Oh hi muhdnurhidayat! :D
04:10 muhdnurhidayat hi... :)
04:11 habeangur today we'll have more people here because forum is not up
04:11 BBmine How have you been doing?
04:11 BBmine Yep
04:11 muhdnurhidayat I'm fine...
04:11 BBmine I'm not doing very well.
04:12 BBmine I've got the common cold
04:13 muhdnurhidayat oh, hope you get well soon... :)
04:13 habeangur BBmine: it's a routine, you should get it
04:14 BBmine I think there's something wrong with c55's database server.
04:14 * BBmine starts to wonder if c55 burned the ENTIRE forums because lighting up Off-topic wasn't enough :P
04:14 muhdnurhidayat btw, google search found the thread "Forum is now hosted by celeron55" so maybe it's on c55 side error?
04:16 BBmine I think google searches are kinda old. I know on my forum it takes a while for google to wake up.
04:18 muhdnurhidayat From the looks, the forum itself isn't down but the connection between the forum and the database is broken so the forum can't work correctly...
04:19 muhdnurhidayat oh, the wiki is also not functioning...
04:28 muhdnurhidayat SETNAME Muhammad Nur Hidayat
04:28 muhdnurhidayat oops..
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05:59 jas_ hello
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06:23 habeangur hallo jas_
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06:34 jas_ :^)
06:42 jas_ i believe mobs have a hardcoded sound gain of 1, and maybe that is related to #4361
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06:48 tm3 hey guys how you doing? :) ammm...
06:49 tm3 someone took down minetest forum or something it's not opening any more showing sql error
06:49 jas_ ye, it's been down for a bit
06:49 jas_ hopefully it will magically reappear soon
06:49 tm3 lol
06:50 tm3 is it annual database repair and upgrade or something ??
06:50 jas_ maybe someone accidently tripped over the power cable.  it happens sometimes you know! hehe
06:50 tm3 :P
06:50 tm3 :D
06:50 jas_ dunno, maybe it just needs a restart.
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06:51 tm3 ah, who is maintaining it btw :P
06:51 jas_ mm, i read c55 hosts it, but i dunno what that means.
06:51 jas_ (that was a forum post)
06:51 tm3 oh
06:51 jas_ try minetest.reddit.com if you like to post something for me to read
06:51 tm3 lol
06:52 jas_ i'd suggest irc but we're already here.  do you like github?
06:52 tm3 nah, i was trying to mail another mod about a problem in the server but it's down i guess i will find some other way may be github. I don't have his mail id. I have admin's mail but he is sleeping ;P
06:53 jas_ surprised you can't message them via irc
06:53 jas_ usually servers have channels and mods idle there, i think.
06:53 tm3 yes but he is not online in irc
06:53 jas_ ah ic
06:53 tm3 will he get it
06:54 jas_ memoserv sends messages, shadowbot does !tell.  he won't see any irc messages if he's not online to read them
06:54 jas_ is it a channel here on freenode?
06:54 sofar forum outage has been reported
06:54 jas_ lmao
06:54 jas_ oh i read that as "outrage" whoops!
06:54 tm3 hmm.. mail be ingame mail then. anyways thanks for your feedback :)
06:54 sofar forum outrage can be reported as well
06:54 jas_ you're most welcome
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07:14 leo_rockway hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware, but the forum is down. There's an issue with the DB.
07:23 celeron55_ oh
07:23 celeron55_ well that's not good
07:25 celeron55_ meh, it just ran out of disk space on /var
07:31 celeron55_ wait what
07:31 celeron55_ why is the devwiki database larger than the forum
07:31 celeron55_ this doesn't seem right
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07:54 jas_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ooGnZfswrU
07:54 jas_ !title
07:54 MinetestBot jas_: Aphex Twin - 26 Mixes For Cash [CD2] - YouTube
08:00 celeron55_ forum and wikis fixed
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12:42 srifqi Anybody knows what will I get when I do minetest.settings:get("mgv5_np_ground") ? Will it be a table? How to store it?
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12:47 Krock try print(dump(minetest.settings:get("setting here")))
12:55 srifqi "2017-09-09 19:51:13: ERROR[Main]: Setting [mgv5_np_ground] is a group."
12:57 srifqi So, we can't use minetest.settings:get() to get a group, Krock ?
12:59 Krock yeah, I think so
12:59 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blo​b/master/minetest.conf.example.extra#L48
13:01 srifqi :(
13:08 rdococ :c
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13:15 srifqi Krock, can I just use l_get and tweaking it to l_get_group? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/mas​ter/src/script/lua_api/l_settings.cpp#L75-L89
13:19 rdococ I'm adding a simple day counter system that will announce sunrise and sunset.
13:23 Krock srifqi, yes, that'd be possible
13:24 srifqi Let me try.
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13:38 compro hello!! I want to destroy a water well/source I built. How to do it?
13:39 srifqi Try picking using Empty Bucket or just place a block in it.
13:39 compro ok got it
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14:55 Asad3ainJalout hey guys, weird bug/glitch. I generated a world and can run around/have fun in singleplayer. However, when I hosted the server to allow other people to join, when I join all i get is a black screen
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15:03 srifqi Have you try to press F5 to check coordinates, Asad3ainJalout ?
15:07 rdococ YEY
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15:16 Asad3ainJalout srifqi: setting it up to try out
15:16 Asad3ainJalout srifqi: sooooo this is embarrasing, i just spawned inside of a tree is all
15:26 rdococ lol
15:26 rdococ you spawned in a tree
15:27 rdococ that should not be possible
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15:31 srifqi Poor you...
15:32 rdococ spawning in blocks should suffocate you...
15:32 rdococ at least w/o noclip
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16:34 Asad3ainJalout rdococ: it appears that if you set no clip on another server, it is still setup on the next server you go to
16:36 rdococ Asad3ainJalout: can't you set noclip ingame?
16:37 Asad3ainJalout rdococ: yeah, i logged in, moved, realised what happened and siabled the no clip and free move and fast move
16:37 Asad3ainJalout had it setup when I was messing something on a sp world, and I am an admin on this server
16:39 rdococ lol
16:40 rdococ on an unrelated subject, I don't get why you would use E for sprint and I for inventory
16:40 rdococ s/sprint/fast move/
16:41 rdococ I have my right hand on my mouse, looking around - and moving my left hand to I takes, relatively, a lot of effort
16:41 rdococ as opposed to using E
16:41 rdococ and I use my inventory more than I use fast
16:42 rdococ I currently have fast set to C, but that's also pretty bad because it becomes difficult to jump while moving fast
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16:59 habeangur Natechip: I think you forgot to join ##cryptography ;)
17:02 Natechip whats that habanhur?
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18:01 luizrpgluiz hi :)
18:04 srifqi hi luizrpgluiz
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18:18 Megaf luizrpgluiz, o/
18:23 jas_ rdococ, i use w for inventory.  and shift for sprint
18:24 jas_ (z is sneak)
18:26 DS-minetest i guess you have azerty keyboard
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19:37 compro what are waterlilies used for?
19:37 sfan5 decoration?
19:39 compro decorating lakes?
19:39 sfan5 yes
19:41 Calinou they're the equivalent of Lily Pads from Minecraft
19:41 Calinou however, you can't walk on them
19:45 luizrpgluiz compro: you are brazilian?(PT-BR: você é brasileiro?)
19:45 compro na
19:45 compro Indian
19:45 luizrpgluiz compro: :)
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20:28 sy https://0x0.st/RFS.png lol
20:28 sy i quite like those rules
20:29 sfan5 hacked clients calls for trouble tho
20:31 rdococ lol
20:31 rdococ RD-C has a weaker version of that "griefing is encouraged" role
20:31 rdococ s/role/rule/
20:32 rdococ sy: what server is that from, btw?
20:32 sy rdococ: mine lol
20:32 rdococ ooh, what address?
20:32 rdococ might try joining
20:32 sy !server Puritan
20:32 MinetestBot sy: Puritan/Cyberia Semi-Generic Server | mt.zm.is | Clients: 1/32, 1/1 | Version: 0.4.16 / puritan | Ping: 260ms
20:32 rdococ ah
20:32 sy also mt.cyb if you're into OpenNIC
20:32 rdococ OpenNIC?
20:33 sy yeah
20:33 sy an alternate DNS root
20:33 sy Me and a friend run a TLD there so I thought it's only fitting to have a minetest server on an opennic domain
20:33 rdococ ah
20:34 sy seems there's no shortage of minetest players also using opennic, already seen another guy with .bit and .dyn addresses
20:34 Fusl this one? https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=10&t=13401
20:35 sy ye
20:35 sy was in ML late yesterday
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21:53 rdococ sy: what port?
21:54 rdococ nvm
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22:02 rdococ sy: what channel?
22:02 rdococ nvm
22:03 sy lol
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23:16 greeter hmm odd question. is it possible to use worldedit or other tools to set/place ignore nodes?
23:23 red-001 the game has some limits on placing ignore nodes
23:23 red-001 but I don't think they are applied to voxilmap
23:24 red-001 so possible
23:25 sfan5 they engine will do whatever possible to prevent you from placing ignore
23:26 greeter ah i see
23:27 VanessaE technically if you delete a mapblock, the result acts exactly like a block full of "ignore"
23:27 VanessaE also in one case, I ended up with a dozen or so mapblocks where air had been transmuted into ignore.  not sure how that happened.
23:29 greeter hmm i see. i'm guessing it's non-trivial to delete map blocks
23:33 sfan5 wat
23:34 VanessaE it's easy.
23:34 VanessaE the /deleteblocks command.
23:34 VanessaE sfan5: which part? :P
23:35 sfan5 all of it
23:35 VanessaE so, all the back to when lisac left? ;)
23:35 VanessaE all the way*
23:37 greeter hmm i think /deleteblocks is a bit more destructive than i need. there's very specific nodes i want to set as ignore. trying to build with them
23:37 VanessaE er..........why?
23:37 red-001 ^
23:37 sfan5 maybe this helps https://gist.github.com/sfan5/3​c04c625453ec95c6a6df4d7e2c05885
23:37 VanessaE how do you build with an invisible node?
23:37 red-001 they are for internal use
23:38 sfan5 a script to remove (= air) a single node in an entire world at the db level
23:38 greeter i want to use it for roofing
23:39 VanessaE why?
23:39 VanessaE what's the use case?
23:39 VanessaE wouldn't one of maptools'
23:39 VanessaE wouldn't one of maptools' nodes work?
23:39 greeter hmm are there any that are invisible and cause no fall damage from landing on them?
23:39 VanessaE not sure about that.
23:39 VanessaE check maptools
23:40 VanessaE it has some special, invisible (==airlike) nodes
23:40 greeter alright then
23:41 greeter hmm i didn't want to install another mod but this one has a lot of useful/interesting stuff
23:41 VanessaE maptools is an essential mod.
23:41 red-001 isn't there a group or something for no damage?
23:41 VanessaE every server or world ought to have that along with worldedit, moreblocks, moreores, home decor :) , and some otghers
23:42 VanessaE others*
23:42 greeter hmm maptools is the only one of those i don't have at the moment
23:51 Fixer Wuzzy: you here?
23:51 Wuzzy hi
23:51 Wuzzy i am not really in my mood for stuff
23:51 Fixer Wuzzy: as usual, but
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23:52 Fixer Wuzzy: have you seen this? https://i.imgur.com/gRbaZTA.png Newest git on Thomas Time Travel server
23:52 Wuzzy reset HUD settigs
23:52 Wuzzy HUD scale or whatever this is called
23:52 Fixer Wuzzy: ?
23:53 Fixer Wuzzy: i have this even on default config I believe
23:53 Fixer let me check
23:55 Fixer Wuzzy: still looks shifted even on default config on my newest client
23:55 Wuzzy android?
23:55 Fixer Wuzzy: Windows 7
23:55 Fixer 1280*1024
23:56 Wuzzy wtf
23:56 Wuzzy i have no idea
23:56 Wuzzy i can only reproduce this with special setting
23:56 Fixer Wuzzy: server owner is Thomas-S, you can ask him for more details, he says mod may be about 1 month old or so
23:57 Fixer Wuzzy: i've seen this shifted on other server too
23:57 Wuzzy can you reproduce this locaally (!!!)?
23:57 Fixer Wuzzy: ok, he has newest version of the mod
23:57 Fixer Wuzzy: i can, remind me how it is named?
23:58 Fixer hudbars?
23:58 Wuzzy hudbars
23:59 Fixer Wuzzy: 1.9.0, still shifted :/
23:59 Fixer Wuzzy: on localhost
23:59 Wuzzy did you reset all config?
23:59 Fixer yes, totally clean minetest config

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