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IRC log for #minetest, 2017-09-10

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00:01 Fixer Wuzzy: i hope it is not an engine bug :/
00:01 Fixer Wuzzy: also, why you don't paticipate in minetest-hub?
00:02 rubenwardy it may be DPI related
00:02 rubenwardy what DPI do you have?
00:02 Fixer windows default one, probably
00:02 rubenwardy erm
00:03 rubenwardy it's related to your monitor
00:03 Fixer okay
00:03 Fixer i can
00:03 Wuzzy wtf?!
00:03 Wuzzy @rubenwardy: WTF?! O_O
00:03 Wuzzy this is an obvious software bug
00:03 rubenwardy well, Windows also has the some scaling
00:03 rubenwardy Wuzzy, I'm aware
00:04 Wuzzy long story short: not my fault?
00:04 Fixer rubenwardy: 86.27 PPI
00:04 rubenwardy nice
00:04 rubenwardy if DPI is a factor in reproducing it, then you need to know it in order to set it
00:04 rubenwardy Wuzzy, I never blamed you lol
00:05 rubenwardy HUD's scaling has been broken for quite a long time
00:05 Wuzzy hooray i can go to sleep now
00:05 Wuzzy cya
00:05 Fixer minetest window size is 1280*996
00:05 rubenwardy lol, sorry Fixer
00:05 Fixer rubenwardy: ?
00:06 Fixer rubenwardy: for what>
00:06 rubenwardy I made Wuzzy disappear
00:06 rubenwardy can you reproduce this locally?
00:06 Fixer kek
00:06 Fixer yes
00:06 rubenwardy with what mods?
00:06 rubenwardy just hud bars?
00:06 Fixer default game + newest hudbars 1.9.0
00:06 rubenwardy kk
00:07 Fixer minetest 0.5.0-dev super newest
00:07 Fixer rubenwardy: you can also connect with newest to Time Travel server (by Thomas-S)
00:07 Fixer rubenwardy: to observe the bug
00:09 Fixer rubenwardy: notify me if you dvelve into it, maybe I will start bisecting it
00:10 Fixer rubenwardy: it appeared pretty recently somewhere during 0.4.16+ times
00:10 Fixer probably
00:12 rubenwardy lol, time travel crashed
00:13 Thomas-S There seems to be a bug regarding privs. I wanted to enter admin mode when the server crashed.
00:14 rubenwardy ah, you should update
00:14 rubenwardy oh wait nvm
00:14 Fixer good night
00:14 rubenwardy I made a priv related fix
00:14 rubenwardy but it's probably not the one you have
00:14 rubenwardy idk, could be
00:14 Thomas-S I'll try this tomorrow. It's quite late today.
00:14 rubenwardy basically, revoking "zoom" caused a crash in builtin/game/register.lua
00:15 Thomas-S I'll tell you what caused the problem as soon as grep finished to search in the debug.txt file.
00:17 Thomas-S Sounds like it's the problem you described, rubenwardy: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'timetravel_server' in callback on_chat_message(): /usr/local/share/minetest/bu​iltin/game/register.lua:439: attempt to index a nil value
00:18 rubenwardy oh right
00:18 rubenwardy then if you update Minetest, it'll be fixed
00:18 * rubenwardy made that bug :'(
00:18 * rubenwardy also made the fix
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00:19 rubenwardy well, I made the bug but paramat triggered it
00:19 Thomas-S Thanks for your help! I'll update tomorrow.
00:19 rubenwardy so it was a joint effort, right?
00:19 Thomas-S :)
00:19 * Thomas-S goes to bed now. Bye!
00:20 rubenwardy o/
00:36 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Schematic decorations: Add 'place_offset_y' placement parameter 51002b1 https://git.io/v5i4a (2017-09-10T00:31:30Z)
00:36 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Fix empty legacy meta being persisted 557bbc6 https://git.io/v5i4V (2017-09-10T00:30:42Z)
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01:56 MinetestBot [git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Fix incorrect buffer size calculation on creation of HUD status messages 829bbaf https://git.io/v5i0i (2017-09-10T01:53:23Z)
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08:49 Milan[m] hi there i got a problem: i restricted the systemd minetestservice to 3G of memory but worldedit operations are still able to flood my servers swap without breaking out of the memory limit. maybe someone has an idea about that? :(
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10:52 compro what is the max depth at which lava appears?
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10:54 Krock there's no max depth
10:54 compro I have gone -307 and no lava
10:56 Krock ah.. this maximum.. they start near -256
10:57 ph3-der-loewe max depth vs. max hight
10:59 compro Actually I am going straight in one direction. Is that a problem?
11:01 compro I mean down in one direction
11:03 Krock doesn't matter. the perlin noise will generate caves somewhen
11:06 rdococ woof woof
11:09 compro any hacks that may help in finding lava?
11:17 Krock noclip, fast and fly
11:17 Krock or worldedit
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11:39 jas_ if i wanted to find lava badly, perhaps i would turn on radar and dig straight down on a sunny day.
11:39 rdococ /giveme default:lava_source 99
11:39 Fixer dig straight down @ 1000 blocks deep @ still have not found lava
11:40 Fixer true story
11:40 rdococ try digging in the time dimension
11:41 jas_ ye you can get lucky with the radar.  can't wait to have zoom, map, radar items
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13:02 rdococ hi jas_
13:04 jas_ hello
13:04 jas_ !
13:05 rdococ HALLO!
13:05 jas_ haha
13:06 rdococ have you tried https://github.com/rdococ/trigger yet?
13:06 jas_ ooh no
13:06 rdococ it's cool
13:07 rdococ it's based on the mech mod from insidethebox, a cool server/game I play on
13:07 rdococ well, I say based on, more inspired by
13:08 jas_ i'm reading all this wonderful text
13:08 jas_ who's RD-C?
13:08 rdococ RD-C is a server
13:09 jas_ oh ok
13:09 rdococ lol
13:09 rdococ RD-Creative
13:09 rdococ !server RD-Creative
13:09 jas_ cool i'll have to try it out
13:09 rdococ ...uhm
13:09 rdococ lol
13:09 jas_ looks interesting.  i tried minicons and some other stuff before
13:09 rdococ jas_: I thiiiiiiink it works with 0.5.0-dev, but not completely sure
13:09 jas_ but never had much luck.
13:09 rdococ minicons?
13:09 jas_ oh ok, i can try it.  i dunno, some different mesecons stuff
13:10 jas_ i liked the idea of a light mesecons anyway
13:10 rdococ Well, the trigger mod is wireless, so no path-finding is used
13:10 jas_ and i remember a digilines which i didn't get very far with.  never tried many other machines, basic_machines briefly
13:10 rdococ and I kept it simple
13:10 jas_ it always amazes me how many mods.  sometimes, i could spend a lot of time just trying them out
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13:10 rdococ heh
13:10 jas_ so.. what's it good for?
13:11 rdococ contraptions, like what mesecons is good for
13:11 jas_ ooh yes really ok
13:12 rdococ in RD-Creative, the lowest level of my RTech building has a simple passcode system that uses the trigger mod - you have to get the right configuration of switches
13:12 rdococ (though atm it doesn't reset them when you enter, so that's a bit of a problem)
13:13 jas_ fun
13:14 jas_ i'm down to 25 repositories.  https://github.com/jastevenson303/dcbl/wiki
13:14 rdococ FuYn
13:15 rdococ hm, not enough kittens
13:15 jas_ i'm working on a terminal, i'm gonna make it do stuff.
13:15 rdococ ooh, a terminal
13:15 jas_ haha
13:15 rdococ There should be a mod designed around terminals.
13:15 jas_ there was at least one
13:16 jas_ it worked with a computer, and had a keyboard.  a few actually.  one actually interfaced with file system IIRC
13:16 rdococ lol
13:16 jas_ mine is a silly affair, and will be just a waypoint location.  but already you can 'sign' it and read 'guestbook' and contents are saved in node.
13:16 rdococ jas_: omfg: admin-only GUI so server owners can git pull, and things like that
13:17 jas_ wow that would be awesome
13:18 rdococ actually, it looks like I was working on a mod to git pull remotely, but didn't get very far
13:18 jas_ also your idea of twitch<->mt chat
13:18 rdococ there should be a huge relay bot that connects minetest, irc, discord and twitch
13:19 jas_ yes
13:21 rdococ hm
13:22 rdococ is there a way, in Lua, to execute a command from a specific location?
13:28 jas_ i think so, but i never tried.  well in lua yes, in minetest i think so.
13:28 rdococ how would I do that in lua?
13:28 rdococ I want to git pull a specific folder, for example
13:29 jas_ io library i think, i never done it.  better to ask google or so
13:29 rdococ dammit, seriously?
13:29 jas_ oh i dunno, maybe not
13:29 jas_ only thing i know for sure, is that i dunno how to do it.  but i'm pretty sure it's possible.  i know lua can execute stuff, but not sure about minetest.  i think it can.
13:30 rdococ in other news, I'm testing all my mods and stuff on 0.5.0-dev now
13:32 jas_ so you wanna know what i noticed today?
13:32 jas_ i'm gonna tell you regardless.
13:32 jas_ in 0.5.0-dev client server list, 0.5.0-dev servers show at the top, in white, while the other servers are grey and below
13:33 rdococ yah
13:33 rdococ protocol version changes
13:34 rdococ 0.5.0 is officially incompatible with 0.4.0 now :P
13:34 rdococ s/0.4.0/0.4.x/
13:35 rdococ wait, I selected "enable older servers" and the other servers aren't grey anymore, yay!
13:36 rdococ lol, I saw a server with a version of 0.5.0 that was still using the old protocol ver
13:39 rdococ jas_: btw, I'm trying out dcbl :P
13:44 Milan[m] hi there i got a problem: i restricted the systemd minetestservice to 3G of memory but worldedit operations are still able to flood my servers swap without breaking out of the memory limit. maybe someone has an idea about that? :(
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13:56 sfan5 maybe you need to limit swap too
14:05 rdococ I swear, one day we'll find out that worldedit is secretly memory-killing malware :P
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14:27 riff-IRC anyone know how to place a concrete ramp directly on top of a concrete slab without the massive gap?
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18:21 MrXtreme Quick question: how do you allow alpha textures when you register a node?
18:23 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2274
18:24 rubenwardy wrong link
18:24 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4356
18:24 rubenwardy use_texture_alpha = true
18:24 rdococ lol
18:33 MrXtreme Thanks
18:33 Hijiri riff-IRC: you cannot
18:34 MrXtreme Another thing, I'm making a glass node, so I set the drawtype to "glasslike_framed", but the glass doesn't connect
18:36 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Object properties: Fix loss of custom selectionbox 5f489ef https://git.io/v5PG0 (2017-09-10T18:26:03Z)
18:40 Krock MrXtreme, pasted code is about proportional to the help we can give you
18:41 MrXtreme I figured out why it was having the problem, I'm fine now
18:41 Krock !next
18:41 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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20:55 Fixer !back
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21:29 Fixer spam https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21886
21:30 Fixer spam https://forum.minetest.net/memberli​st.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=21884
21:32 jas_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
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23:59 MrXtreme Is there a way to use the textures from another mod in my mod?

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